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M1RAG3 09-19-2010 08:23 PM

Which Foglights? If you have HID fogs PLEASE STEP INSIDE
 
I am going to change up the look of my ride for the last few months before it snows down here in Toronto.

I am going to add fog lights to my 5th gen bumper (mine didnt come with fogs FTL) and run HID fogs.

I am debating these two foglights right now:
CLEAR LENS FOGS WITHOUT SHROUD
http://www.octanemotorsports.com/ima...30-0097-11.jpg

BLACK HOUSING FOGS WITH SHROUD
http://www.maximafoglights.com/produ...db93_4226.jpeg


QUESTIONS:
IS ANYONE ON HERE RUNNING EITHER OF THESE FOG LIGHTS WITH HIDS?
DOES THE OEM NISSAN FOG LIGHT FOR THE 5TH GEN HAVE A SHROUD OR NOT?

Thanks in advance for any help you guys can give me!

Stereodude 09-19-2010 08:31 PM

You're going to be real popular if you put HID's in a housing without a shroud. :laugh:

The 5.5 Gen foglights have a shroud. I believe the 5th gen do as well.

rroderiques77 09-19-2010 08:49 PM

I would recommend OEM fogs as well. Then use tint overlay over them.

CMax03 09-19-2010 09:07 PM

HID it!!!!!! OEMs with HID!
http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/p...tures018-1.jpg


http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/p...axtitan024.jpg
http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/p...titan022-1.jpg

Stalldaworld 09-20-2010 07:17 AM

OEM with Hid's FTW

phatboislim 09-20-2010 07:37 AM

i wonder how HIDs would look without the shroud lol...OAN..i'm happy to see they brought back the smoked fogs..

quickhuh 09-20-2010 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by CMax03 (Post 7741392)

which kelvin bulbs are those? I just did 3000k hids and the bulbs seemed to be to long and touch the metal of the reflector. i did see that they offer a mini h3 bulb. The only problem i had with mine were that the bulbs looked green anytime during the day or night, i figured they were grounding out on that reflector.

phatboislim 09-20-2010 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by quickhuh (Post 7741870)
which kelvin bulbs are those? I just did 3000k hids and the bulbs seemed to be to long and touch the metal of the reflector. i did see that they offer a mini h3 bulb. The only problem i had with mine were that the bulbs looked green anytime during the day or night, i figured they were grounding out on that reflector.

his look like 6 or 8ks..but onthe note of the bulb touching, you have to push it out of the way, i used a screwdriver...as far as it being green...you have to run them for a while...i think after a week mine started being the real golden yellow..i got pulled for my 3Ks being 'green' before

PrinceDrew00 09-20-2010 09:24 AM

OEM with HID..

PrinceDrew00 09-20-2010 09:27 AM

I also do wonder wht the light out put will be like without the shroud

quickhuh 09-20-2010 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by phatboislim (Post 7741875)
his look like 6 or 8ks..but onthe note of the bulb touching, you have to push it out of the way, i used a screwdriver...as far as it being green...you have to run them for a while...i think after a week mine started being the real golden yellow..i got pulled for my 3Ks being 'green' before

cool thanks for the info. i ordered laminx for the fogs, maybe ill give them another shot for a week or so. i figured they were just a cheap kit

Prophecy99 09-20-2010 10:31 AM

the question is. does a shroud in our fogs, make it legal to hids in them?

VQP0WER 09-20-2010 12:56 PM

It's illegal to covert any halogen bulb to a HID. The lights were not DOT approved with HID's. Same for headlamps.

phatboislim 09-20-2010 12:58 PM

cops dont say anything unless its regarding color even though its 'illegal'...at least where i live..maybe in cali

SoonerFan 09-20-2010 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by Prophecy99 (Post 7741988)
the question is. does a shroud in our fogs, make it legal to hids in them?

nope...HID fogs are illegal

byrdman164 09-20-2010 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by VQP0WER (Post 7742189)
It's illegal to covert any halogen bulb to a HID. The lights were not DOT approved with HID's. Same for headlamps.

Agreed. Actually if you look on most housings, it will tell you what kind of bulb belongs in the housing.

Most, if not all conversion kits say somewhere "for offroad use only".

Anyway, relevent to the topic - I run OEM fogs with the glare shields in them, 6k hids in the fogs and 6k in the low beams. Clean look, and I dont get bothered by the cops at all.

VQP0WER 09-20-2010 04:25 PM

One of our base guards said I had to shut off my 8k HID fogs because they looked blue. I told him by federal law he is required to wear a reflective vest while working in the road (gate). He let me go......stupid gate guards.

phatboislim 09-20-2010 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by VQP0WER (Post 7742538)
One of our base guards said I had to shut off my 8k HID fogs because they looked blue. I told him by federal law he is required to wear a reflective vest while working in the road (gate). He let me go......stupid gate guards.

owned:laugh::laugh:

SoonerFan 09-20-2010 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by VQP0WER (Post 7742538)
One of our base guards said I had to shut off my 8k HID fogs because they looked blue. I told him by federal law he is required to wear a reflective vest while working in the road (gate). He let me go......stupid gate guards.

two wrongs make a right :gotme:
















:kiss:

CMax03 09-21-2010 12:37 AM


Originally Posted by quickhuh (Post 7741870)
which kelvin bulbs are those? I just did 3000k hids and the bulbs seemed to be to long and touch the metal of the reflector. i did see that they offer a mini h3 bulb. The only problem i had with mine were that the bulbs looked green anytime during the day or night, i figured they were grounding out on that reflector.

These are 8000K 35w.......Just a slight tint of blue, very good light coverage, 6000k probably will put down and slight more lumens....but I did make adjustments to headlight and foglights to fill in any missed voids between the two....

VQP0WER 09-21-2010 05:06 AM


Originally Posted by SoonerFan (Post 7742749)
two wrongs make a right :gotme:


:kiss:

:D You know it! He had a safety violation, I on the other hand did not. :o

ghostrider17 09-21-2010 05:16 AM


Originally Posted by VQP0WER (Post 7743073)
:D You know it! He had a safety violation, I on the other hand did not. :o

You're BOTH wrong, and now you just pissed-off a Gate Guard.
Smooth move?
I think not..... :rolleyes:

There's a REASON they have these rules, you know.

8k is too blue....and it looks like an EMERGENCY vehicle.

i doubt that's the last you'll hear from those boys.

It's YOUR ride tho! :o

gr

phatboislim 09-21-2010 05:41 AM

it 'looks' like an emergency vehicle is hogwash IMHO. their 'blue' lights are super dark blue and strobes/flashing. its like they cant tell a difference between a car on the street and an 'EMERGENCY' vehicle, granted i have 6Ks and 3Ks, top and bottom, respectively, but to those that have those, so the f what.

And the gate guard cannot get pissed if HE HIMSELF cant follow the Federal Law himself. there are too many self righteous/over anal enforcers of the law.

ghostrider17 09-21-2010 05:48 AM


Originally Posted by phatboislim (Post 7743098)
And the gate guard cannot get pissed if HE HIMSELF cant follow the Federal Law himself. there are too many self righteous/over anal enforcers of the law.

Of which -- I am NOT one.

I'm just sayin' -- this is what that law is based-on.
Stupid? Maybe -- but so is the general SPEED limit, everywhere we go. :rolleyes:
Seat-belts, safety locks, safety windows -- don't get me started.

--and i hate to say it, but I agree with Sooner on this one :facepalm: ......

Two Wrongs don't make a Right. :smash:

gr

phatboislim 09-21-2010 06:17 AM

yea i know two wrongs dont make a right, but, especially if you're going to be anal about enforcing the law, make sure you adhere to it yourself....the gate guard is/was a hypocrite that day

Prophecy99 09-21-2010 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by SoonerFan (Post 7742749)
two wrongs make a right :gotme:



:kiss:

in math it does... :cool:

Gizm0 09-21-2010 11:13 AM

3000K HID in OEM housing

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/y...XIMAHID007.jpg

http://i777.photobucket.com/albums/y...XIMAHID011.jpg

Nexus67 09-22-2010 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by phatboislim (Post 7743120)
yea i know two wrongs dont make a right, but, especially if you're going to be anal about enforcing the law, make sure you adhere to it yourself....the gate guard is/was a hypocrite that day

Damn right. I remember one of the officers on post told me the pipe on my Eagle Talon was too loud: so I simply asked him what was the legal decibel level. He couldn't tell me lol

VQP0WER 09-22-2010 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by ghostrider17 (Post 7743102)
Of which -- I am NOT one.

I'm just sayin' -- this is what that law is based-on.
Stupid? Maybe -- but so is the general SPEED limit, everywhere we go. :rolleyes:
Seat-belts, safety locks, safety windows -- don't get me started.

--and i hate to say it, but I agree with Sooner on this one :facepalm: ......

Two Wrongs don't make a Right. :smash:

gr

Seriously, who gives a F. I've been through the same gate dozens of times since and he hasn't said a thing since, but he also still hasn't worn his reflective vest, which there is a report into their Commander to respond.

So, when you say two wrongs don't make a right, I should have not mentioned he is not complying with the law and putting himself in danger? :rolleyes: If I didn't mention it, I would be doing him a disservice since my occupation is "Occupational Safety & Health."

BuRoJo 09-23-2010 12:05 PM

...and 3 rights make a left...

:facepalm:

(sorry, couldn't resist)

Eirik 09-25-2010 08:32 AM

So, anyway, I just listened to a long explanation by a truck driver last night on how the "fog lights" on 18-wheelers and cars aren't actual fog lights at all, just "road lamps," as they are marked in the Freightliner and International trucks.

He claimed that actual fog lights were what you see on German/European cars. The crazy bright "rear fog" on the Mercedes, for instance, is for parking in front of your house. You leave the light on in the rear so other drivers can more easily see your €40,000 Benz in the middle of the night through fog as thick as buttermilk.

He says any "fog lights" with the small white bulbs won't do crap in actual fog as the light must be yellow to sort of pierce the fog and not get scattered. Actual fog lights are massive, yellow, and infrequently seen because North America just doesn't get thick fog like Europe.

If I slapped yellow bulbs in my "fog lights" on the Maxima, does that make them fog lights? Or will they still be just road/driving lamps? Who has been pulled over for having yellow or HID blue fog lights/road lamps? :confused:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...headlights.jpg

5 ltr. beater 09-25-2010 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by SoonerFan (Post 7742749)
two wrongs make a right :gotme:



no......two wrongs make a kick a$$ looking HID fog light setup! ;)

Waxima 09-25-2010 10:39 AM

What bulbs are those? They look REALLY nice and yellow for it being just yellow bulbs in OEM housing.

kbohip 09-25-2010 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by Eirik (Post 7748399)
He claimed that actual fog lights were what you see on German/European cars. The crazy bright "rear fog" on the Mercedes, for instance, is for parking in front of your house. You leave the light on in the rear so other drivers can more easily see your €40,000 Benz in the middle of the night through fog as thick as buttermilk.

:confused:

Lol, no. The rear fog lights you see on some European vehicles are definitely not for use when the car is off. They draw enough power to kill a battery in an hour or two. They are on a lot of European vehicles because they use them on the autobahn so that drivers have more advance notice when coming up on a car at high speed in bad weather. It drives me crazy when I see oblivious American drivers leaving these on all the time too.

5 ltr. beater 09-25-2010 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by Waxima (Post 7748469)
What bulbs are those? They look REALLY nice and yellow for it being just yellow bulbs in OEM housing.

looks like he has lexus capsules installed just like i did

Waxima 09-25-2010 05:31 PM


Originally Posted by 5 ltr. beater (Post 7748565)
looks like he has lexus capsules installed just like i did

That's kind of what I was thinking. He said stock housings but for the bulbs to be THAT yellow I feel like he would have had to add lexus capsules or something. Either way, those look really nice.

Maxy91 09-25-2010 05:35 PM

http://forums.maxima.org/picture.php...ictureid=20940

maximase86 09-25-2010 08:58 PM

I have 35w 3000k HID + Yellow capsules, no glare shield though.

If you can find capsules, they definately give the yellow:

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...0/IMG_0125.jpg

2000_MAXIMA_KING 09-25-2010 11:21 PM

Get the fog kit from courtesy nissan man it somes with everything you need if you get the one from ebay or whoever else they have a plug that plugs somewhere under the dash that noone has figured out yet and you"ll end up just using the housings, getting the relay and headlight stalk with foglight switch from somewhere else.

SRTuLTR 09-26-2010 08:34 AM

what is the bulb # for OEM fog?


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