Second Car Ideas
It feels like I've been reading threads on the .org since I was in high school (well I guess I was).
Now that I'm 28 years old and have a need, or technically 'a want' to get a new car, I have been going back and forth with several cars and have narrowed it down to two cars for the time being. NOTE: I will be keeping my 2002 SE 6-Speed as a project car/semi-daily driver/bad weather car. Key Criteria: Under $35k, fast, and fun to drive 1) Subaru BRZ, 6SPD 2) Cadillac ATS, 2.0T, 6SPD I think these are two fun and fast (or potential to be very fast) cars. Funny... I was close to following in Rochester's footsteps with a G37S but figured it was time for a change from Nissan (unless the 14' G is out of this world and reasonably priced). FYI - I had a 96' SE for 6 years and now an 02' SE for 5 years. Thanks for your opinion guys. |
Corvette FTMFW!
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If you want fun and fast under 35K i'd go with an Evo. The 4G63's can take alot and there's tons of aftermarket support for them. A friend of mine has a 500+whp Evo and it's insane. That car with 100hp less would still be lots of fun.
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Originally Posted by T_Behr904
(Post 8614240)
If you want fun and fast under 35K i'd go with an Evo. The 4G63's can take alot and there's tons of aftermarket support for them. A friend of mine has a 500+whp Evo and it's insane. That car with 100hp less would still be lots of fun.
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what about a lexus is350? i was thinking g37 but i read the rest of your post lol
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Seems you're looking only at "new" cars?
If so, you're not going to get much of a car for under $35,000, IMO, unless power isn't high on your list of wants. Now step into the lightly used market and you have a wide selection of great cars. |
I'd go for the BRZ. Screw the FRS. Haha
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I would go with something AWD, like the mentioned Evo or Sti.
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There's a long line of Maxima owners who've moved into the G. That path is well-worn, my friend. And for good reason... it delivers on most priorities for car enthusiasts: power, handling, RWD, manual transmission and luxury features.
I've not driven either of the cars in your sights; (BRZ/FRS or the new Caddy ATS). But like most people, I've followed their reviews with a lot of interest. My guess is the BRZ would be a better fit. Certainly a more affordable purchase. When I was your age, I bought a brand new 1992 240SX 5MT, which seems very much the same kind of car as the BRZ. In other words, go for affordable fun now, because there's plenty of time later on for expensive fun. |
^ Agreed. BRZ is definitely on a fun car list, and with how the aftermarket / scene has taken to it, your options will be endless. I don't even see how the ATS made it to the list.
If not new, I'd look at a Honda S2000 IMO. |
2013 Mustang GT with the track package...looks, speed, tons of aftermarket support, and tons of features.
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super snake all the way |
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All good suggestions.
Just to clarify - I don't need anything new. I have just been burnt in the past with purchasing used cars that needed a lot of maintenance right out of the gate and I would also like the peace and mind of having a factory warranty for once. Certified Pre-Owned is another avenue I will look at. I shopped the Mustang GT w/ Track Package and it gets decent gas mileage for a 420HP V8 but still, I drive 90 miles round-trip for work and don't need a gas guzzler with these prices. Also, not a fan of the retro styling. The EVO/STi are great cars, especially for modding it seems, BUT I'm saving for a house and definitely don't need the temptation to go lighter, faster with those cars. The AWD is attractive and it's hard not to put them in the line-up for performance cars under $35,000. Decisions...decisions. I will throw a lightly used G37S back into the list and see what kind of prices I can get a lightly used model for. The 10' and 11' Acura TL-SH AWD in manual also crossed my mind. I do like the idea of saying 'VTEC just kicked in, yo" with a 305 HP sedan though. Purchase date will in April 13' so I have about 6 months. Any new cars coming out in that time frame that would fit the bill? Thanks |
Originally Posted by ATL
(Post 8614236)
Corvette FTMFW!
C7 comeing soon |
Corvette is always, always FTL. Always. Not to mention he clearly stated gas guzzler & expensive aren't on his list. The Vette is both.
It sounds like you need to sit down and draw up a simple WANT//NEED list. Because if you want a lot for a reasonable price, the only chance you'll have is if you get something used that is in in solid shape and reliable, and put a bunch of money in it. You seem smart enough to know you cant have everything. Power & gas is a direct trade off, obviously. So is size/luxury and mileage. The mustang has a little bit of every thing. I don't think I'd ever buy one, I just don't like mustangs much, but that car is impossible to keep off your radar once you've done a good need/want list. It really checks more of the boxes off than anything on the road even slightly comparable in price. If you're fine for an Automatic, actually, there's more on the list to look at. A used G8 comes to mind |
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brz all the way best on gas and probly way fun to drive |
Originally Posted by kaptinjak
(Post 8614808)
I will throw a lightly used G37S back into the list and see what kind of prices I can get a lightly used model for.
Here's a link I used to troll with every day. There's a low-mileage, Vibrant Red w/Stone Leather with only 20K miles for $25K. Not bad, considering it has the full Premium Package w/Nav. Nice catch, IMO... better even if you can knock a few grand off it. The only reason I ended up with a 2011 is because I got tired of waiting for the perfect 2009, and found myself on the receiving end of a sweet deal. Patience has its rewards, however in my case it was impatience that led me to widen my net. |
Originally Posted by TunerMaxima3000
(Post 8614869)
Corvette is always, always FTL. Always. Not to mention he clearly stated gas guzzler & expensive aren't on his list. The Vette is both.
your statement is asinine, 35k will get u a 2010 or so with low miles, so not too expensive(especially considering the performance you get). and a c6 doesnt get any worse mpg than our maximas, the ONLY reason it hasnt fit the OPs exact bill, is you cant get a brand new one for 35k. But theres a reason for that... |
Please show link of said $35,000 LOW MILE C6.
But you're half-way right about mileage, it can be tolerable if he's doing only highway driving and drives it like a grandma. But what the heck is the point of buying a car like that then? Either way, Corvette to me will always = Deuchbag. Stereotype? Sure. But that is how it is. The fact that the build qulity is 'meh', and the interior is about as nice as a cavaliers just kind of closes it out for me. Anyways, I could be wrong, but it seems obvious to me that 2 door 1 season unrealistic sports car isn't really what this guy is looking for, but again, could be wrong. |
Originally Posted by ATL
(Post 8615043)
HAHAHAHAHA, says the guy with the 5th gen. Thats like someone on a $500 moped saying your maxima is "always, always ftl. always"... idiot, right?
your statement is asinine, 35k will get u a 2010 or so with low miles, so not too expensive(especially considering the performance you get). and a c6 doesnt get any worse mpg than our maximas, the ONLY reason it hasnt fit the OPs exact bill, is you cant get a brand new one for 35k. But theres a reason for that... This isn't the Off Topic forum. Play nice. |
'12 wrx
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Originally Posted by TunerMaxima3000
(Post 8615098)
Anyways, I could be wrong, but it seems obvious to me that 2 door 1 season unrealistic sports car isn't really what this guy is looking for, but again, could be wrong.
and heres a 2009, first thing i saw when i searched, better deals can be found if you take your time http://atlanta.craigslist.org/wat/cto/3232413392.html but i wont sidetrack anymore, sorry. we all have our own personal preferences |
And this thread is going downhill, fast...
Wanting a daily driver that gets good gas mileage, fast and fun to drive, and under 35K. I'd rule out the BRZ/FRS since they aren't fast. Since you're looking at a 2 door/rwd platform then I'd also suggest looking for a 350Z, preferably an HR. Those can be found easily under 35K, get good fuel economy, can easily be found with a 6 speed, and have lots of aftermarket support if you want to do any performance/suspension mods to it. And it has the VQ35 that everybody loves, and it makes a beautiful sound. |
Originally Posted by T_Behr904
(Post 8615138)
I'd rule out the BRZ/FRS since they aren't fast.
Fun > Fast, every day of the week. |
lol, ive never even heard of the 2 cars mentioned in the OP. but a member here posted up some pics of his nismo 370z. it was really nice and under 35k. dont the 370s make some nice power?
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Originally Posted by ATL
(Post 8615043)
HAHAHAHAHA, says the guy with the 5th gen. Thats like someone on a $500 moped saying your maxima is "always, always ftl. always"... idiot, right?
Inferior newts with 'maximas' have no say in the superiority of the "Vette". |
Originally Posted by Rochester
(Post 8615149)
Pretty sure there are millions of Miata owners who would chuckle at that assessment.
Fun > Fast, every day of the week. On another note, I wouldn't compare a Miata to a BRZ/FRS since the Miata is a much smaller, lighter car. It's basically a modern day British roadster. |
Originally Posted by Rochester
(Post 8615149)
Pretty sure there are millions of Miata owners who would chuckle at that assessment.
Fun > Fast, every day of the week. I still haven't driven a BRZ or equivalent, so I can't really comment on whether that'd be a good route to go. If it's as fun as a miata, just plan a turbo and different rims into the price and you'll be laughing your a$$ off. (because ugly rims, :laugh:) |
Originally Posted by TunerMaxima3000
(Post 8615161)
And know how I know you probably have or want a Corvette? Because you already have the mindstate that the Corvette>All.
Inferior newts with 'maximas' have no say in the superiority of the "Vette". and with the op saying he is keeping his maxima for semi dd and bad weather, what better to get than the ultimate sports car. as for me personally, im still in school so i dont have 35k to drop. i have to substitute initial investment with alittle elbow grease. im trying to find a ls3 to drop in my cobra. love the 5.0 but its out of date |
2000se maxima to a 2005 M5 ;))
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Originally Posted by ATL
(Post 8615173)
i feel that corvettes are the ultimate sports cars. the only cars that compete are boosted, but once the corvette is boosted, the game changes.
and with the op saying he is keeping his maxima for semi dd and bad weather, what better to get than the ultimate sports car. as for me personally, im still in school so i dont have 35k to drop. i have to substitute initial investment with alittle elbow grease. im trying to find a ls3 to drop in my cobra. love the 5.0 but its out of date As far as putting an LS in a Mustang, i'm not even going to comment on that :grinno: And what year is the Cobra? The pushrod 5.0 went bye-bye in 95 when the 4.6 OHC came out in 96. Besides, there are plenty of Ford crate engine options for those Fox bodies. |
Originally Posted by ATL
(Post 8615160)
lol, ive never even heard of the 2 cars mentioned in the OP. but a member here posted up some pics of his nismo 370z. it was really nice and under 35k. dont the 370s make some nice power?
I like the idea of the BRZ. I want to suggest 370z or g37 to the OP. But I feel that is borderline cliché around here. |
lol, i understand why you disagree, although i dont agree with the reasoning, i see where you are coming from. the cobra is a 95, and no matter which way you go about building them, the lifter valleys split around 450-500hp. ls motors can hold 2k plus, and if you can deal with the ls1 instead of ls3, the pricing cant be beat with that power/weight.
for instance, $1k lq4 long block + $750 l92 heads + $200 cam = 550hp for around 2k. or leave the 317 heads on the lq4, add 5.5 psi, and you have the same 550hp. both of them will last 100k miles. check out this little junkyard turbo motor article, 60 dyno pulls making 1200hp with a $500 4.8l lsx: http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/h...g_bang_theory/ |
Originally Posted by ATL
(Post 8615191)
lol, i understand why you disagree, although i dont agree with the reasoning, i see where you are coming from. the cobra is a 95, and no matter which way you go about building them, the lifter valleys split around 450-500hp. ls motors can hold 2k plus, and if you can deal with the ls1 instead of ls3, the pricing cant be beat with that power/weight.
for instance, $1k lq4 long block + $750 l92 heads + $200 cam = 550hp for around 2k. or leave the 317 heads on the lq4, add 5.5 psi, and you have the same 550hp. both of them will last 100k miles. check out this little junkyard turbo motor article, 60 dyno pulls making 1200hp with a $500 4.8l lsx: http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/h...g_bang_theory/ |
Originally Posted by 2damax
(Post 8615187)
I want to suggest 370z or g37 to the OP. But I feel that is borderline cliché around here.
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550ish probably. but im not a huge fan of the mod motors. they are getting better each and every yr, but not my cup of tea, i prefer pushrods. i daily drove a 90 lx hatch with a 408 for 4 yrs before i bought my denali
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At the end of the day it depends on what you see yourself driving. To me the ultimate driving machine would be a gtr but for under 35k ill do another g35 (mine got totaled). You have back seats, can get parts anywhere, and drift. Therr is a looong list of cars that could work rx7,rb26 240sx, 350z, supra, or you could always buy alot of drugs, flip em and buy a gtr but hey its all bout what makes you comfortable
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Originally Posted by mrbat
(Post 8615205)
At the end of the day it depends on what you see yourself driving. To me the ultimate driving machine would be a gtr but for under 35k ill do another g35 (mine got totaled). You have back seats, can get parts anywhere, and drift. Therr is a looong list of cars that could work rx7,rb26 240sx, 350z, supra, or you could always buy alot of drugs, flip em and buy a gtr but hey its all bout what makes you comfortable
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Originally Posted by ATL
(Post 8615160)
lol, ive never even heard of the 2 cars mentioned in the OP.
Originally Posted by ATL
(Post 8615173)
i feel that corvettes are the ultimate sports cars.
Originally Posted by ATL
(Post 8615173)
as for me personally, im still in school
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