| maxiiiboy |
Jan 12, 2015 08:27 AM |
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Originally Posted by Max_5gen
(Post 9014646)
TPS most likely has nothing to do with this, I haven't come across confirmed case it does. Besides, it's easy to check. I think, TPS replacement recommendation was born out of desperation to avoid costly P0505 repair but there's no shortcut in this case - any time IACV gets replaced ECU driver chip should be looked at. I don't see how TPS replacement could substitute that.
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I agree with your last and next-to-last sentence. However, it's a bit more complicated than you make it.
The IACV can fail for several reasons: - Coolant shorts the IACV motor wiring, and the resulting short damages the ECU. This is the most common failure (perhaps 85% of total).
- The thermo-valve inside the IACV gets stuck open. As the engine warms up, the ECU will try to lower the idle rpm …. the IACV motor will bottom out on the valve seat …. it will keep trying to shut the valve ….. this causes a high amp draw and it will eventually take out the weakest links in that circuit -- the STA509A transistor in the ECU.
- Faulty or Misadjusted TPS. In a manner similar to #2 above, if the TPS is bad or not adjusted correctly …. the ECU does not know it, it will try to adjust …. draws high Amp …. and eventually damages the STA509A transistor in the ECU. BTW, this is why the people who repair fried ECUs want you to replace both the IACV and the TPS before installing the repaired ECU.
- Intake Leak either in the manifold or the throttle body. The extra air leads to high idle. Then, the ECU tries to correct it via IACV and over time it burns the ECU chip out.
- It can be argued that any permanent High Idle condition, which the ECU is trying to correct but fails to do so, may, and eventually will, damage the IACV. Not sure how often this actually happens, if at all.
So, TPS replacement is not a substitute for inspecting both the IACV and the ECU/STA509. However, one should be aware of the possible failure modes, and when doing a repair, understand which failure type are you dealing with.
BTW, I have collected all the above information from various posts on this site. My only contribution is collecting and rationalizing the information other ORG members provided.
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