Can not bleed maxima ,i think i need to cycle ABS
07-16-2018, 06:30 PM
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Can not bleed maxima ,i think i need to cycle ABS
Does anybody know of a way to autobleed the ABS pump. Without having the dealer do it.
People use the Autel maxicheck pro to do it on domestics.
Wonder if it will work on nissans.
Anybody go through this problem? Any ideas?
Will the datascan 2 cycle the ABS? ,because that's all i need.
People use the Autel maxicheck pro to do it on domestics.
Wonder if it will work on nissans.
Anybody go through this problem? Any ideas?
Will the datascan 2 cycle the ABS? ,because that's all i need.
Last edited by krismax; 07-16-2018 at 06:41 PM.
07-17-2018, 12:59 AM
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Does anybody know of a way to autobleed the ABS pump. Without having the dealer do it.
People use the Autel maxicheck pro to do it on domestics.
Wonder if it will work on nissans.
Anybody go through this problem? Any ideas?
Will the datascan 2 cycle the ABS? ,because that's all i need.
People use the Autel maxicheck pro to do it on domestics.
Wonder if it will work on nissans.
Anybody go through this problem? Any ideas?
Will the datascan 2 cycle the ABS? ,because that's all i need.
07-17-2018, 02:28 AM
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And no matter what i do i can't bleed the car. Went through a gallon of brake fluid.
Fluid pumps out of the bleeders with no bubbles. but it still only has about 5% brake force.
I have bled these for over 15 hours.
Once air gets in the ABS pump regular bleeding will not work.
07-17-2018, 03:32 AM
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I drained the fluid out of the car 100%.
And no matter what i do i can't bleed the car. Went through a gallon of brake fluid.
Fluid pumps out of the bleeders with no bubbles. but it still only has about 5% brake force.
I have bled these for over 15 hours.
Once air gets in the ABS pump regular bleeding will not work.
And no matter what i do i can't bleed the car. Went through a gallon of brake fluid.
Fluid pumps out of the bleeders with no bubbles. but it still only has about 5% brake force.
I have bled these for over 15 hours.
Once air gets in the ABS pump regular bleeding will not work.
07-18-2018, 10:41 PM
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What was changed? Or what made you have to bleed your brake system?
This is just like bleeding a brake system w/o ABS! Did you happen the change your brake pads and use the C-Clamp method to push the caliper piston back into the caliper? If you did I hope you opened your caliper bleed screw while doing that? If not you blew your ABS pump seals and this my be your issue! If not start with bench bleeding the master cylinder first or you may have a defective Master Cylinder that is only working in the 2nd stage of operation (that's almost to the floor)....
This is just like bleeding a brake system w/o ABS! Did you happen the change your brake pads and use the C-Clamp method to push the caliper piston back into the caliper? If you did I hope you opened your caliper bleed screw while doing that? If not you blew your ABS pump seals and this my be your issue! If not start with bench bleeding the master cylinder first or you may have a defective Master Cylinder that is only working in the 2nd stage of operation (that's almost to the floor)....
07-18-2018, 11:18 PM
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What was changed? Or what made you have to bleed your brake system?
This is just like bleeding a brake system w/o ABS! Did you happen the change your brake pads and use the C-Clamp method to push the caliper piston back into the caliper? If you did I hope you opened your caliper bleed screw while doing that? If not you blew your ABS pump seals and this my be your issue! If not start with bench bleeding the master cylinder first or you may have a defective Master Cylinder that is only working in the 2nd stage of operation (that's almost to the floor)....
This is just like bleeding a brake system w/o ABS! Did you happen the change your brake pads and use the C-Clamp method to push the caliper piston back into the caliper? If you did I hope you opened your caliper bleed screw while doing that? If not you blew your ABS pump seals and this my be your issue! If not start with bench bleeding the master cylinder first or you may have a defective Master Cylinder that is only working in the 2nd stage of operation (that's almost to the floor)....
07-18-2018, 11:47 PM
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What was changed? Or what made you have to bleed your brake system?
This is just like bleeding a brake system w/o ABS! Did you happen the change your brake pads and use the C-Clamp method to push the caliper piston back into the caliper? If you did I hope you opened your caliper bleed screw while doing that? If not you blew your ABS pump seals and this my be your issue! If not start with bench bleeding the master cylinder first or you may have a defective Master Cylinder that is only working in the 2nd stage of operation (that's almost to the floor)....
This is just like bleeding a brake system w/o ABS! Did you happen the change your brake pads and use the C-Clamp method to push the caliper piston back into the caliper? If you did I hope you opened your caliper bleed screw while doing that? If not you blew your ABS pump seals and this my be your issue! If not start with bench bleeding the master cylinder first or you may have a defective Master Cylinder that is only working in the 2nd stage of operation (that's almost to the floor)....
In my other thread in the 5 th gen forum kind of explains what i was doing. I pretty much stripped the car.
I put a new master cylinder on thinking it was that but it is not.
The car is at a nissan dealer ,right now. I will probably find out the problem,fri or mon.
07-19-2018, 03:56 AM
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07-20-2018, 04:11 AM
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I've also had calipers just take a **** when replacing pads. Had to do 6th gen bbk for brakes to work.
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07-22-2018, 11:35 PM
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It's a finicky system.
07-24-2018, 09:23 AM
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What was changed? Or what made you have to bleed your brake system?
This is just like bleeding a brake system w/o ABS! Did you happen the change your brake pads and use the C-Clamp method to push the caliper piston back into the caliper? If you did I hope you opened your caliper bleed screw while doing that? If not you blew your ABS pump seals and this my be your issue! If not start with bench bleeding the master cylinder first or you may have a defective Master Cylinder that is only working in the 2nd stage of operation (that's almost to the floor)....
This is just like bleeding a brake system w/o ABS! Did you happen the change your brake pads and use the C-Clamp method to push the caliper piston back into the caliper? If you did I hope you opened your caliper bleed screw while doing that? If not you blew your ABS pump seals and this my be your issue! If not start with bench bleeding the master cylinder first or you may have a defective Master Cylinder that is only working in the 2nd stage of operation (that's almost to the floor)....
Will a bad ABS pump,allow the car not to be bleed?
07-25-2018, 03:18 AM
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ABS pump is a closed box that pulsates. You would not think so. It would have to be leaking.
I had this problem on two other vehicles. One it was two bad master cylinders in a row. Swapped didn't work. The dealership checked everything again. Still nothing. Said f+&k it and I'll start over. Put in another new master and it worked.
Second time was the vacuum booster.
I had this problem on two other vehicles. One it was two bad master cylinders in a row. Swapped didn't work. The dealership checked everything again. Still nothing. Said f+&k it and I'll start over. Put in another new master and it worked.
Second time was the vacuum booster.
07-25-2018, 04:51 AM
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ABS pump is a closed box that pulsates. You would not think so. It would have to be leaking.
I had this problem on two other vehicles. One it was two bad master cylinders in a row. Swapped didn't work. The dealership checked everything again. Still nothing. Said f+&k it and I'll start over. Put in another new master and it worked.
Second time was the vacuum booster.
I had this problem on two other vehicles. One it was two bad master cylinders in a row. Swapped didn't work. The dealership checked everything again. Still nothing. Said f+&k it and I'll start over. Put in another new master and it worked.
Second time was the vacuum booster.
They called nissan ,talked to one of their master techs. They said abs pump actuators. Fluid gets pumped through abs ,then goes to calipers from there. When actuators,close up it can send fluid in a loop back to the master.
I put a new master on and they put a brand new nissan OEM one on. And they checked the vacumm booster.
When the car is off the pedal is hard and firm. Only drops ,after car starts.
I paid $600 and then took the car home. i ordered a very low mile abs pump. if that doesn't work i will get a booster
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07-29-2018, 09:39 AM
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Yeah it pumps in bursts. I didn't think of the actuators staying closed. So they are saying when the abs closes the system can send fluid back to the master? Well of course it does. That's not a revelation. If the actuators stayed closed then pressure would not build up between the pump and calipers. Only between the pump and master. The fact that it stays with the car off seems to say something is telling the pump to lock up (not intentionally). So disconnect the wiring harness to the abs and see what happens. Use a stethoscope and listen to the pump and see if it activates as soon as the car starts. It should not. If it works correctly without the electrical hooked up then it's a sensor or the pump. Then start the troubleshooting process to determine which.
07-31-2018, 08:02 AM
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i figured our the problem .Too bad the dealer didn't notice it
Front calipers on backwards. I can't believe i didn't notice it until today.
Now i need the lines in the engine bay.they are ruined going to the ABS unit. 3 go from there a short distance to the proportion unit on the firewall the other goes straight to the front left caliper. Any ideas where to get them?
Front calipers on backwards. I can't believe i didn't notice it until today.
Now i need the lines in the engine bay.they are ruined going to the ABS unit. 3 go from there a short distance to the proportion unit on the firewall the other goes straight to the front left caliper. Any ideas where to get them?
07-31-2018, 10:34 AM
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i figured our the problem .Too bad the dealer didn't notice it
Front calipers on backwards. I can't believe i didn't notice it until today.
Now i need the lines in the engine bay.they are ruined going to the ABS unit. 3 go from there a short distance to the proportion unit on the firewall the other goes straight to the front left caliper. Any ideas where to get them?
Front calipers on backwards. I can't believe i didn't notice it until today.
Now i need the lines in the engine bay.they are ruined going to the ABS unit. 3 go from there a short distance to the proportion unit on the firewall the other goes straight to the front left caliper. Any ideas where to get them?
08-02-2018, 04:18 AM
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problem fixed it was stupid me. Upside down calipers.
New problem here.
https://maxima.org/forums/5th-genera...ecu-fried.html
New problem here.
https://maxima.org/forums/5th-genera...ecu-fried.html
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i figured our the problem .Too bad the dealer didn't notice it
Front calipers on backwards. I can't believe i didn't notice it until today.
Now i need the lines in the engine bay.they are ruined going to the ABS unit. 3 go from there a short distance to the proportion unit on the firewall the other goes straight to the front left caliper. Any ideas where to get them?
Front calipers on backwards. I can't believe i didn't notice it until today.
Now i need the lines in the engine bay.they are ruined going to the ABS unit. 3 go from there a short distance to the proportion unit on the firewall the other goes straight to the front left caliper. Any ideas where to get them?
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