Monster Flow's are in
 

The monster flow filters are here. They look like a really nice filter, better than any other foam filter i've seen. The cage is a red cage, i was told it's more malleable then the black ones so you cna get a better seal. All orders will soon start shipping with these unless you specially request a K/N and i have one left, i'm trying to heavily shy away from these.

Now for those of you that already have a K/N and want a monster flow and for those that still want a K/N i had an idea. IF you have a FRANKENCAR K/N Intake setup if yuo send me your k/n(hopefully with the k/n box) and $25 i will send you a monster flow. what i will then do with the k/n is sell it to people that want a kit with a k/n and include a FREE K/N recharger kit. you guys like?????

i'm also making the proto-type heat shield this weekend and the 4th gen maf adapters i'm having fabricated in cali next week too. after that who knows <cough> cat-backs already been talked about for 2k-up </cough> who loves ya :kiss:

-steve

Hey steve,

I was wondering how much just the pipe section between the maf and the throttle body costs? I probably need all the nuts/bolts/hose clamps/brackets associated with it. I've got a stillen cone filter and velocity stack, dunno if you have experience with this combo, but will it rattle or is there a way to secure it.
Also was wondering when that ram air you were working on will be finished? What is the fastest and easiest way for me to order as well?

Sorry for all the questions, i'm super exited about joining the 2k2 club hehe.

why the switch?? are there any benefits from having the monster flow over the k&n?? any hp/torque increase?? is it true the monster flow will offer more power at lower rpm range than the k&n? will pricing be the same??

I think we're all waiting for Steve to dyno with the K&N and then with the Monster on the same day so we can see if there's a difference other than the oil probs.
Steve: I'm very interested in the Monsters, please keep us informed of any dynos, thanks. Are the heat shields gonna fit for the K&N and the Monsters?
Thanks a million
Matt

Matt, i already placed my order in for Stage 2 w/ MF. Steve said he'll have it shipped out by mid next week.

Maybe we can go to a dyno shop together and interchange the filter on whoever car is going to be tested.

We could probably dyno both cars to get an average as well. Might be able to get a group price on the runs if we get a couple more people to join us.

LMK.

That sounds like a great idea. Next weekend or the following would be fine with me if you have the intake by then. Just let me know when the intake is here and we'll work it out.

Sure thing!

the advantage of a monster flow is they agent used on the filter wont' damage MAF's, and it has a velocity stack molded into the filter which i like.

monster flow is also working with me on the heatshields which will fit any 2k and up i hope all the same.

pricing will remain the same, and the heatshields will not be expensive at all. 20ish?

chin-emax has that setup on his car, my bracket fits and it's 60 shipped for the mid section. paypal is the fastest way.

-steve

Monsterflow and Mid pipe Ordered ! Im Happy !:D

Is the monster flow louder than the original ?

i wont' have one on my car till monday as i have it off my car so i can take it to nissan on monday for servicing, for what it costs me for an oil filter from them i'll let them do it and lube my shiznizy up. i don't think it will be louder and the hiss might be less noticable. that's what happened on my friends CRX but it sounded throatier.

MF Tech Specs and Cleaning Kit Info
 

I don't know if anyone's posted this yet, but until MonsterFlow gets their web site enabled, here's a URL that lists the technical specifications of their air filters:

http://shop.store.yahoo.com/racinglab/monairfiltec.html

And here's what the cleaning kit looks like:

http://store6.yimg.com/I/racinglab_1676_2087805

The kit consists of a can of cleaner and a can of tackifying agent. I'm not sure how many cleanings and "tackifyings" you can get out of one kit nor do I know if you can purchase the cleaner and the "tackifier" separately. But given that the Recommended Service Interval is every 2000 miles, you should definitely consider the recurring expense of purchasing kits when estimating the overall cost of the filter. The kit appears to run around $20.00.

(PS: I wonder why a MonsterFlow filter needs to be serviced so frequently, particularly in comparison to a K&N filter? Is it possible that the filter element in a MonsterFlow isn't as effective in removing particulate matter as the filter element in a K&N? Enquiring minds want to know . . .)

Re: MF Tech Specs and Cleaning Kit Info
 

Bruce, i can't recall the URL right now but i saw it for $9.95 the other day.

Anyway, you have a good question there. My take on the theory would be that since it needs cleaning more often i'm thinking that perhaps because it filters out a lot of dirt (e.g. won't pass through, will just build-up).

Re: Re: MF Tech Specs and Cleaning Kit Info
 

See if you can find that URL, Mike. You'll be doing a service to all those who purchase MonsterFlow air filters. BTW, the best price I've seen for the kit so far is $19.95. The kit lists for $21.95.

Yes, your theory is plausible. But then so is mine. Of course, we'll never know for certain unless an independent lab tests the filtering capabilities of a K&N and a MonsterFlow side-by-side. I, for one, won't be holding my breath waiting for that to happen. :)

Steve: Are you saying that the K&N filter I have on my Frankencar intake is damaging my MAF?

Other than this reason alone, I see no reason to do the switch.

Tony

No, the only damage that occurs is from overoiling.

I'll let Steve answer that question, of course. But I wouldn't be concerned if I were you. Overoiling is the ONLY reason a K&N filter would ever damage a MAF.

And I'm with you. Until the dyno results are in, I see no real advantage in exchanging a K&N filter for a MonsterFlow filter, particularly given how frequently MonsterFlow filters require maintenance and the cost of the cleaning kits.

from monsterflow themselves the filter's need to be serviced every 15k miles no every 2k and i will be carrying cleaning kits soon to the tune of 10 bucks.

Geez, Steve. Then how do you explain this?

http://store.yahoo.com/racinglab/airfilmatcle.html

Here's soundmike and one of this theories again.

Well, it is a Yahoo store... so perhaps they wanna make more money? :D

maybe they missed a zero, i'd believe monster flow direct before i believe a yahoo store selling them for aht much of a markup, i'm gonna sell them for 10.

Me too, Steve. And while I have absolutely no reason to doubt your word, I'm from Missouri and I have to be shown. I realize MonsterFlow's web site is down right now, so I might not be able to find an official statement from them concerning the recommended service interval on their air filters. But I do have their telephone number as 619-421-3569. I'll give them a call on Monday. Is there anyone in particular you'd suggest I talk to?

Thanks.

you can talk to ben or i could fax you the page out of the manual for the filter that i have here that states 15k miles or once a year.

Whatever's easiest for you. I'll e-mail you my fax number. And as soon as I confirm the 15K/1Yr maintenance interval either directly with MonsterFlow or via the manual page I receive from you, I'll indicate that in this thread.

Steve,
I just place ans order for a mid section and sent you money by PayPal. When will you be able to send me one? I want to make it my next Saturday Morning project.

got the email. i will send it monday from my fulltime job.

-steve

Come on Steve , you mean you dont dedicate yourself to Maximas 24/7 ??:laugh:

in thought i do. :)

Thanks Steve.

I thought K&N required to be cleaned 50,000-100,000.
At least that is what it says on the cleaning guide.

How ofter do people with K&N clean them?

Thanks.

once a year, they can last that long but they flow better clean i think. i always did mine once a year or when they started to look black.

-steve

I thought cloth filters were supposed to be sturdier and more effective than foam filters? What kind of warranty does Monsterflow offer for their filters? Is it comperable to K&N and their million mile warranty? Also how many times can the foam filter be washed before you need to replace it? If I get an intake from you can I still get the K&N filter and will the heat shield fit the K&N or will it only work for the Monsterflow?

I just received Steve's fax regarding the suggested service interval for a MonsterFlow filter. According to the MonsterFlow manual:

"Your MonsterFlow air filter is supplied pre-treated with a special tackifier. Cleaning and re-treating intervals in normal road cars used on the highway and city roads will be every 15,000 miles or once per year. More frequent maintenance may be required in dusty conditions."

Thanks, Steve. :)

Darn, at the rate i'm driving right now, if i follow that service schedule (15k miles) that means i'll be cleaning it once every 6 years! :D

(yeah, i don't travel that much to work-home)

What kind of warranty does the K&N has?
I am also deciding which intake to get, either K&N or MonsterFlow.