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mikemike May 6, 2002 10:14 AM

Tire Upgrade....don't laugh
 
I have the 2000 SE 16 rims and actually like them. I want to upgrade my tires but would like to go with a wider tire if possible. Does going from 215 55 16 to 225 55 16 make any sense? It would only effect the speedo slightly but might look and handle a lot better. While its all a matter of money, I see more wheel "upgrades" that look like crap than ones that look better....or maybe I like my nimble five spokes!

y2kse May 6, 2002 10:26 AM

Re: Tire Upgrade....don't laugh
 

Originally posted by mikemike
I have the 2000 SE 16 rims and actually like them. I want to upgrade my tires but would like to go with a wider tire if possible. Does going from 215 55 16 to 225 55 16 make any sense? It would only effect the speedo slightly but might look and handle a lot better. While its all a matter of money, I see more wheel "upgrades" that look like crap than ones that look better....or maybe I like my nimble five spokes!
I dunno, Mike. Read the post on Page 3 of the FAQs entitled "Can I run oversized tires on my stock 17" SE Rims?". Then you tell us.

Here's a link to Page 3 of the FAQs:

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....7&pagenumber=3

While this post isn't specifically about upgrading your 16" tires, all the same principles apply.

asu174 May 6, 2002 10:28 AM

I wouldn't think a 225 would look better. It's going to make your tires look fat and squishy. I'd stick with the 215. Actually, I'd sell the 16's and buy some 18's...but that's just me.

Matthew May 6, 2002 11:03 AM

Re: Tire Upgrade....don't laugh
 

Originally posted by mikemike
I have the 2000 SE 16 rims and actually like them. I want to upgrade my tires but would like to go with a wider tire if possible. Does going from 215 55 16 to 225 55 16 make any sense? It would only effect the speedo slightly but might look and handle a lot better. While its all a matter of money, I see more wheel "upgrades" that look like crap than ones that look better....or maybe I like my nimble five spokes!
...Go up 1 inch, and get 17inch x 8inch Mille Miglia Evo 5 wheels, with 225/50r17... That is the stock tire size of the 2002 SE, and the 17x8 can handle that perfectly. The Evo is a great wheel with a very similar 5-spoke design to the one you have on your 16"... Check them out at tirerak.com... But no you should NOT put 225 width tires on your stock 16" wheels... Dangerous.

y2kse May 6, 2002 11:13 AM

Re: Re: Tire Upgrade....don't laugh
 

Originally posted by Matthew


But no you should NOT put 225 width tires on your stock 16" wheels... Dangerous.

And why would you say it's dangerous to put 225 width tires on the stock 16" wheels, Matthew?

asu174 May 6, 2002 11:20 AM

Re: Re: Re: Tire Upgrade....don't laugh
 

Originally posted by y2kse

And why would you say it's dangerous to put 225 width tires on the stock 16" wheels, Matthew?

Dangerous? Ugly, maybe, but dangerous? It's a 16x7 last time I checked. The 17x7 runs a 225 stock.........

Matthew May 6, 2002 11:21 AM

Re: Re: Re: Tire Upgrade....don't laugh
 

Originally posted by y2kse

And why would you say it's dangerous to put 225 width tires on the stock 16" wheels, Matthew?

...Aren't they only 6" wide? That is too narrow for a 225 width wheel... They won't seat properly. :wall: :wall:

asu174 May 6, 2002 11:23 AM

Ummmmm...actually I think you might be right on that......

y2kse May 6, 2002 11:26 AM

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Originally posted by asu174


Dangerous? Ugly, maybe, but dangerous? It's a 16x7 last time I checked. The 17x7 runs a 225 stock.........

Man, isn't ANYONE willing to do their homework? You're both wrong, asu174 and Matthew. Do you want to keep guessing or would you rather look in your owners manuals?

Matthew May 6, 2002 11:29 AM

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Originally posted by y2kse

Man, isn't ANYONE willing to do their homework?

:wall:...So I am right then??? :wall: :wall: Do I get to move to the head of the class???

y2kse May 6, 2002 11:30 AM

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Originally posted by Matthew


:wall:...So I am right then??? :wall: :wall: Do I get to move to the head of the class???

Go out to your car, open your glove box, pull out your owners manual and then you tell me.

Matthew May 6, 2002 11:32 AM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Tire Upgrade....don't laugh
 

Originally posted by y2kse

Man, isn't ANYONE willing to do their homework? You're both wrong, asu174 and Matthew. Do you want to keep guessing or would you rather look in your owners manuals?

I don't have my owner's manual handy. Its not the rotational or circumference difference because that is less than two percent from 215-55 to 225-55 on the same size wheel. Is the stock 16x6.5? That would still be too small for a 225. You have to forgive me I don't run those wheels, I run 225/50r17 on the 17x7 stock SE 2002's...

y2kse May 6, 2002 11:39 AM

Good guess, Matthew. The stock rim size for the 16" rim is located on page 10-9 of your owners manual. And it's 6.5" wide. Now which tire manufacturer says it's not OK to mount their 225/55R16 tire on a 6.5" rim?

ArcticMax May 6, 2002 11:39 AM

My brother (hokiemax)
 
has been running 225/50s on factory 98 SE rims for almost year and half now with no prblems.

Stock is 215, so I don't think going 10 milimiter wider will cause any problems.

are the 5th gen. SE 16s 6.5inch wide as well?

Matthew May 6, 2002 11:44 AM


Originally posted by y2kse
Good guess, Matthew. The stock rim size for the 16" rim is located on page 10-9 of your owners manual. And it's 6.5" wide. Now which tire manufacturer says it's not OK to mount their 225/55R16 tire on a 6.5" rim?
...Probably most manufacturers would recommend against that, the sizing and load charts on different brands are pretty consistent with what they recommend. :D

y2kse May 6, 2002 11:52 AM


Originally posted by Matthew


...Probably most manufacturers would recommend against that, the sizing and load charts on different brands are pretty consistent with what they recommend. :D

Nice dodge, Matthew! ;)

All right, you guys, here we go again.

Selecting tires and rims is not something anyone should undertake until they have all the FACTS! And right now, that's something both you and asu174 are missing. If you don't have the facts, get them. They aren't that hard to find.

It's perfectly fine to run most 225/55R16 tires on the OEM rims. If anything, they have a HIGHER load rating than the 215/55R16 tires, so they're safer from that aspect. The minimum acceptable rim width for the 225/55R16 tire is 6.0", so you're OK there as well. And the difference in overall diameter between the 215/55R16 and 225/55R16 is only 1.7%, well within the 3.0% guideline.

Damn. Don't you hate someone who actually takes the time to do the research?

:smash:

Matthew May 6, 2002 11:57 AM


Originally posted by y2kse

Nice dodge, Matthew! ;)

All right, you guys, here we go again.

Selecting tires and rims is not something anyone should undertake until they have all the FACTS! And right now, that's something both you and asu74 are missing. If you don't have the facts, get them. They aren't that hard to find.

It's perfectly fine to run most 225/55R16 tires on the stock OEM rims. If anything, they have a HIGHER load rating than the 215/55R16 tires, so they're safer from that aspect. The minimum acceptable rim width for the 225/55R16 tire is 6.0", so you're OK there as well. And the difference in overall diameter between the 215/55R16 and 225/55R16 is only 1.7%, well within the 3.0% guideline.

Damn. Don't you hate someone who actually takes the time to do the research?

:smash:

Personally, I am not myself doing a wheel and tire upgrade. I was just trying to lend a helping hand... But if you say 16x6 is safe for 225's, I take your word for it. It might not LOOK as nice as a 225 on a 7 or 8 inch wide wheel, but to each his own... Personally if I were upgrading here is my dream setup with my new Maxspeeds which are on the way. I know it is a little heavy but here goes:

18x8 Mille Miglia Evo 5
245/40r18 Yokohama AVS dB Ultra Performance ZR speed

...and a partridge in a pear treeeeeee... :D

y2kse May 6, 2002 11:59 AM


Originally posted by Matthew

But if you say 16x6 is safe for 225's, I take your word for it.

NO! NO! NO! That's precisely the point. Don't take ANYONE's word for it, including mine. Do your homework. When it comes to selecting tires and rims, the choice you make could be a matter of life and death. And the life you save may be your own!

asu174 May 6, 2002 01:00 PM

I don't have a damn owners manual- That's why I'm always on here asking you guys my stupid questions....

johnny2kgle May 6, 2002 02:32 PM

I just put on 225/55 R16 BFG G Forces from the TireRack on the GLE. As mentioned before, the 225/55 are within the 3% rule on the 6.5" rim that y2kse spoke about before. I talked it over with Larry at TireRack as well.

They don't look quite as nice as I would like, but the slightly taller tire fills the wheel gap better than the 215/55. I wish the five spoke stock 16s were 16x7 instead of the 16x6.5.

Tirerack has the BFG g Force for $101 a tire and a W rating. Anything is better than the stock Toyos; they suck.

y2kse May 6, 2002 02:38 PM


Originally posted by asu174
I don't have a damn owners manual- That's why I'm always on here asking you guys my stupid questions....
Yes you do, asu174. It's right here:

http://www.nissan-techinfo.com/

Click on "Owner Manuals" in the lower left corner and take it from there.

asu174 May 6, 2002 03:18 PM


Originally posted by y2kse

Yes you do, asu174. It's right here:

http://www.nissan-techinfo.com/

Click on "Owner Manuals" in the lower left corner and take it from there.

Hey thanks.... Too bad its 239 pages. You almost got me fired for printing the Bible.... I'll use it as my online reference....

y2kse May 6, 2002 03:31 PM


Originally posted by asu174


Hey thanks.... Too bad its 239 pages. You almost got me fired for printing the Bible.... I'll use it as my online reference....

:wall:

:laugh:


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