6th Gen Bumpers in the news..
03-01-2007, 06:39 PM
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6th Gen Bumpers in the news..
Anyone else see the story on ABC today talking about the bumpers on our cars?
Here is an excerpt and a link to the full article.
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WASHINGTON Mar 1, 2007 (AP)— Those minor fender benders might cost more than you think, according to new crash tests released Thursday by the insurance industry.
The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety found that most bumpers on midsize cars do little to prevent costly damage to vehicles, even in low-speed crashes of up to 6 miles per hour. The crashes frequently occur in parking lots and in commuter traffic.
The Institute conducted tests on 17 midsize cars in low-speed tests. In one test of the front-end at 6 mph, four vehicles the Nissan Maxima, Volkswagen Passat, Pontiac G6, and Hyundai Sonata had damages of more than $4,000.
Nissan, for example, said it believes the Maxima "performs competitively in terms of cost of repair."
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=2915208
Here is an excerpt and a link to the full article.
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WASHINGTON Mar 1, 2007 (AP)— Those minor fender benders might cost more than you think, according to new crash tests released Thursday by the insurance industry.
The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety found that most bumpers on midsize cars do little to prevent costly damage to vehicles, even in low-speed crashes of up to 6 miles per hour. The crashes frequently occur in parking lots and in commuter traffic.
The Institute conducted tests on 17 midsize cars in low-speed tests. In one test of the front-end at 6 mph, four vehicles the Nissan Maxima, Volkswagen Passat, Pontiac G6, and Hyundai Sonata had damages of more than $4,000.
Nissan, for example, said it believes the Maxima "performs competitively in terms of cost of repair."
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=2915208
03-01-2007, 08:06 PM
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Yeah, I saw it. I wasn't particularly happy about it. They specifically said the Maxima suffered more than $4500 in damages in their test.
imo at least
03-01-2007, 09:56 PM
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^^^^ VERY TRUE! I dont buy my cars by how well they crunch! I buy potato chips that way.... 
03-01-2007, 10:01 PM
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I love people that think they are invincible and can avoid everyone and everything.
03-01-2007, 11:21 PM
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I had an unusual accident with my 04 Max driving on I 76 in NE Colorado almost 2 years ago. This accident destroyed the right side of the front bumper shroud, and the cost of my repair says that some of the quoted numbers seem on the high side.
Driving back home from the east on the interstate, I was passing a pickup truck that was pulling a horse trailer. The Max going about 80 MPH and the passing speed was about 10 - 15 MPH (pickup doing 65 to 70). As I was almost past the trailer, something flew out of the back of the pickup, bounced once on the highway and hit the right side of my front bumper. The right two wheels of the car then rolled over this object. It took me almost a half mile to stop the car, with the pickup truck stopped about 200 yards behind me. I estimate that the speed difference between the Max (doing 80 MPH) and the saddle (doing an estimated 50 MPH after hitting the surface of the road once) was about 30 MPH.
When I walked back to the truck, it turns out that a horse saddle had dropped out of the open back bed of the pickup truck. It did not look too good after both of my wheels had rolled over it. Guess I was lucky that the horse was not wearing this saddle when I hit it -- damage to the Max would have been much greater. There are not many places in this country where you can hit a saddle when driving on an interstate highway -- but Colorado is one.
Turns out that the pickup driver and I both had State Farm insurance, and his policy paid to fix my bumper. My body shop had to replace the complete front bumper shroud, a new right front light assembly and separate turn light plus some brackets, etc. (The itimized bill has 38 items -- not including the labor). The cost of this repair (using a junk-yard bumper from another Max) totaled only $2,442.58
The break down of this bill was Parts = $1,387.58; Labor = $813.50; Other (paint & materials) = $129.60; and sales tax = $111.90
This is hardly the $4,500 in this test -- guess they had to replace more than a light assembly and the bumper shroud. That, or there is something wrong with the test. Prabably another instance of the Media doing a scare story that has some truth, but is largely just HYPE.
Driving back home from the east on the interstate, I was passing a pickup truck that was pulling a horse trailer. The Max going about 80 MPH and the passing speed was about 10 - 15 MPH (pickup doing 65 to 70). As I was almost past the trailer, something flew out of the back of the pickup, bounced once on the highway and hit the right side of my front bumper. The right two wheels of the car then rolled over this object. It took me almost a half mile to stop the car, with the pickup truck stopped about 200 yards behind me. I estimate that the speed difference between the Max (doing 80 MPH) and the saddle (doing an estimated 50 MPH after hitting the surface of the road once) was about 30 MPH.
When I walked back to the truck, it turns out that a horse saddle had dropped out of the open back bed of the pickup truck. It did not look too good after both of my wheels had rolled over it. Guess I was lucky that the horse was not wearing this saddle when I hit it -- damage to the Max would have been much greater. There are not many places in this country where you can hit a saddle when driving on an interstate highway -- but Colorado is one.
Turns out that the pickup driver and I both had State Farm insurance, and his policy paid to fix my bumper. My body shop had to replace the complete front bumper shroud, a new right front light assembly and separate turn light plus some brackets, etc. (The itimized bill has 38 items -- not including the labor). The cost of this repair (using a junk-yard bumper from another Max) totaled only $2,442.58
The break down of this bill was Parts = $1,387.58; Labor = $813.50; Other (paint & materials) = $129.60; and sales tax = $111.90
This is hardly the $4,500 in this test -- guess they had to replace more than a light assembly and the bumper shroud. That, or there is something wrong with the test. Prabably another instance of the Media doing a scare story that has some truth, but is largely just HYPE.
03-02-2007, 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by SilverMax_04
I had an unusual accident with my 04 Max driving on I 76 in NE Colorado almost 2 years ago. This accident destroyed the right side of the front bumper shroud, and the cost of my repair says that some of the quoted numbers seem on the high side.
Driving back home from the east on the interstate, I was passing a pickup truck that was pulling a horse trailer. The Max going about 80 MPH and the passing speed was about 10 - 15 MPH (pickup doing 65 to 70). As I was almost past the trailer, something flew out of the back of the pickup, bounced once on the highway and hit the right side of my front bumper. The right two wheels of the car then rolled over this object. It took me almost a half mile to stop the car, with the pickup truck stopped about 200 yards behind me. I estimate that the speed difference between the Max (doing 80 MPH) and the saddle (doing an estimated 50 MPH after hitting the surface of the road once) was about 30 MPH.
When I walked back to the truck, it turns out that a horse saddle had dropped out of the open back bed of the pickup truck. It did not look too good after both of my wheels had rolled over it. Guess I was lucky that the horse was not wearing this saddle when I hit it -- damage to the Max would have been much greater. There are not many places in this country where you can hit a saddle when driving on an interstate highway -- but Colorado is one.
Turns out that the pickup driver and I both had State Farm insurance, and his policy paid to fix my bumper. My body shop had to replace the complete front bumper shroud, a new right front light assembly and separate turn light plus some brackets, etc. (The itimized bill has 38 items -- not including the labor). The cost of this repair (using a junk-yard bumper from another Max) totaled only $2,442.58
The break down of this bill was Parts = $1,387.58; Labor = $813.50; Other (paint & materials) = $129.60; and sales tax = $111.90
This is hardly the $4,500 in this test -- guess they had to replace more than a light assembly and the bumper shroud. That, or there is something wrong with the test. Prabably another instance of the Media doing a scare story that has some truth, but is largely just HYPE.
Driving back home from the east on the interstate, I was passing a pickup truck that was pulling a horse trailer. The Max going about 80 MPH and the passing speed was about 10 - 15 MPH (pickup doing 65 to 70). As I was almost past the trailer, something flew out of the back of the pickup, bounced once on the highway and hit the right side of my front bumper. The right two wheels of the car then rolled over this object. It took me almost a half mile to stop the car, with the pickup truck stopped about 200 yards behind me. I estimate that the speed difference between the Max (doing 80 MPH) and the saddle (doing an estimated 50 MPH after hitting the surface of the road once) was about 30 MPH.
When I walked back to the truck, it turns out that a horse saddle had dropped out of the open back bed of the pickup truck. It did not look too good after both of my wheels had rolled over it. Guess I was lucky that the horse was not wearing this saddle when I hit it -- damage to the Max would have been much greater. There are not many places in this country where you can hit a saddle when driving on an interstate highway -- but Colorado is one.
Turns out that the pickup driver and I both had State Farm insurance, and his policy paid to fix my bumper. My body shop had to replace the complete front bumper shroud, a new right front light assembly and separate turn light plus some brackets, etc. (The itimized bill has 38 items -- not including the labor). The cost of this repair (using a junk-yard bumper from another Max) totaled only $2,442.58
The break down of this bill was Parts = $1,387.58; Labor = $813.50; Other (paint & materials) = $129.60; and sales tax = $111.90
This is hardly the $4,500 in this test -- guess they had to replace more than a light assembly and the bumper shroud. That, or there is something wrong with the test. Prabably another instance of the Media doing a scare story that has some truth, but is largely just HYPE.
03-02-2007, 06:34 AM
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I was chewing on the article also. When hitting or getting hit going 6mph will I need to replace both the front and the rear bumpers? If I am tapped in the rear from someone going 6mph, that wouldn't be hard enough to justify my replacing my front bumper as well.
I agree that this is a little truth with a ton of hype!
I agree that this is a little truth with a ton of hype!
03-02-2007, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 4MySwee
I was chewing on the article also. When hitting or getting hit going 6mph will I need to replace both the front and the rear bumpers? If I am tapped in the rear from someone going 6mph, that wouldn't be hard enough to justify my replacing my front bumper as well.
I agree that this is a little truth with a ton of hype!
I agree that this is a little truth with a ton of hype!
03-02-2007, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by SilverMax_04
I had an unusual accident with my 04 Max driving on I 76 in NE Colorado almost 2 years ago. This accident destroyed the right side of the front bumper shroud, and the cost of my repair says that some of the quoted numbers seem on the high side.
Driving back home from the east on the interstate, I was passing a pickup truck that was pulling a horse trailer. The Max going about 80 MPH and the passing speed was about 10 - 15 MPH (pickup doing 65 to 70). As I was almost past the trailer, something flew out of the back of the pickup, bounced once on the highway and hit the right side of my front bumper. The right two wheels of the car then rolled over this object. It took me almost a half mile to stop the car, with the pickup truck stopped about 200 yards behind me. I estimate that the speed difference between the Max (doing 80 MPH) and the saddle (doing an estimated 50 MPH after hitting the surface of the road once) was about 30 MPH.
When I walked back to the truck, it turns out that a horse saddle had dropped out of the open back bed of the pickup truck. It did not look too good after both of my wheels had rolled over it. Guess I was lucky that the horse was not wearing this saddle when I hit it -- damage to the Max would have been much greater. There are not many places in this country where you can hit a saddle when driving on an interstate highway -- but Colorado is one.
Turns out that the pickup driver and I both had State Farm insurance, and his policy paid to fix my bumper. My body shop had to replace the complete front bumper shroud, a new right front light assembly and separate turn light plus some brackets, etc. (The itimized bill has 38 items -- not including the labor). The cost of this repair (using a junk-yard bumper from another Max) totaled only $2,442.58
The break down of this bill was Parts = $1,387.58; Labor = $813.50; Other (paint & materials) = $129.60; and sales tax = $111.90
This is hardly the $4,500 in this test -- guess they had to replace more than a light assembly and the bumper shroud. That, or there is something wrong with the test. Prabably another instance of the Media doing a scare story that has some truth, but is largely just HYPE.
Driving back home from the east on the interstate, I was passing a pickup truck that was pulling a horse trailer. The Max going about 80 MPH and the passing speed was about 10 - 15 MPH (pickup doing 65 to 70). As I was almost past the trailer, something flew out of the back of the pickup, bounced once on the highway and hit the right side of my front bumper. The right two wheels of the car then rolled over this object. It took me almost a half mile to stop the car, with the pickup truck stopped about 200 yards behind me. I estimate that the speed difference between the Max (doing 80 MPH) and the saddle (doing an estimated 50 MPH after hitting the surface of the road once) was about 30 MPH.
When I walked back to the truck, it turns out that a horse saddle had dropped out of the open back bed of the pickup truck. It did not look too good after both of my wheels had rolled over it. Guess I was lucky that the horse was not wearing this saddle when I hit it -- damage to the Max would have been much greater. There are not many places in this country where you can hit a saddle when driving on an interstate highway -- but Colorado is one.
Turns out that the pickup driver and I both had State Farm insurance, and his policy paid to fix my bumper. My body shop had to replace the complete front bumper shroud, a new right front light assembly and separate turn light plus some brackets, etc. (The itimized bill has 38 items -- not including the labor). The cost of this repair (using a junk-yard bumper from another Max) totaled only $2,442.58
The break down of this bill was Parts = $1,387.58; Labor = $813.50; Other (paint & materials) = $129.60; and sales tax = $111.90
This is hardly the $4,500 in this test -- guess they had to replace more than a light assembly and the bumper shroud. That, or there is something wrong with the test. Prabably another instance of the Media doing a scare story that has some truth, but is largely just HYPE.
03-02-2007, 03:29 PM
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I've had a couple of fender benders and I never paid more than $1500 to replace the front bumper cover and some related hardware. I didn't have to replace any lights or anything, but from the repairs I've had done I'd say those numbers are inflated. Also a while back someone rear ended me doing 10-15 mph, and the total was under $2,500 iirc.
That article seems pointless, every shop differs slightly, as does every accident. And you wont give a crap about potential repair costs unless you already have one of those cars, at which point you can't do anything about it anyways.
That article seems pointless, every shop differs slightly, as does every accident. And you wont give a crap about potential repair costs unless you already have one of those cars, at which point you can't do anything about it anyways.
03-02-2007, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Nissan 6
I love people that think they are invincible and can avoid everyone and everything.
03-02-2007, 03:48 PM
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just what my insurance company would love to see ... so they can jack up the rates again (its very strange, that the older my car{and me} gets, the more I pay)
here is another link .... at the bottom is a link to the pdf file (with pictures)
http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_8342.aspx
here is another link .... at the bottom is a link to the pdf file (with pictures)
http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_8342.aspx
03-02-2007, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by chernmax
Wow, so your Max got saddled!!! Definitely a first for me...
Norm,
If you have a fax machine, I can fax you copies of my bill -- which include the estimate and the actual (which was slightly less than the estimate). It is too long to post here, and most would not care to see it. If you have a fax, send me a private message with the details.
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