And now my latest trick...
03-17-2007, 02:18 AM
#1
And now my latest trick...
Ok-before I get flamed just remember my main goal.
#1 Maintain outstanding ride quality*
#2 Lower and level car*
#3 Drastically improve handling*
#4 Keep lady friend happy so I get desert*
Ok I'm busted #4 is actually #1.
I lowered the front of the car with H&R springs. Front end was still higher than the back end by 3/4 of a inch. I installed the rear springs. It was great at first..then they settled (ride got rougher). This resulted in rear of the car being 2 inches lower than the front of the car. Altho my ride quality was still better than Progress springs the degradation was still more than I liked. I felt the improvement in handling was not worth the degradation in ride quality. Neither did my lady friend (the power of the womb was overwhelming). Plus I like my rear end in cars like my ladies-not sagging. I had to do something...
I removed the rear springs and threw the OEM springs back on. Back to a 3/4 inch sag. Then I did the unthinkable. I threw spacers on the rear springs to level the car. You may now begin the flaming. Man that's HOT!!!
For those of you with weak stomachs please shut off your computers.
I can't be responsible for these gruesome pictures some of you are about to witness. I will say this much in my defense. Goals #1-4 have been met.
Lady friend rode in car and then promptly fed me. Even got desert.
God this car is smooth. I LOVE the handling and the leveled look. It is higher than everyone else with lowering springs, but lower than everyone else without lowering springs. This is the result of too many illegal activities in the 70's...Ok I've stalled enough...
I'm pretty sure my butt will start sagging again sometime in the future. Until then I'll enjoy the ride!
This is how it looked before.
#1 Maintain outstanding ride quality*
#2 Lower and level car*
#3 Drastically improve handling*
#4 Keep lady friend happy so I get desert*
Ok I'm busted #4 is actually #1.
I lowered the front of the car with H&R springs. Front end was still higher than the back end by 3/4 of a inch. I installed the rear springs. It was great at first..then they settled (ride got rougher). This resulted in rear of the car being 2 inches lower than the front of the car. Altho my ride quality was still better than Progress springs the degradation was still more than I liked. I felt the improvement in handling was not worth the degradation in ride quality. Neither did my lady friend (the power of the womb was overwhelming). Plus I like my rear end in cars like my ladies-not sagging. I had to do something...
I removed the rear springs and threw the OEM springs back on. Back to a 3/4 inch sag. Then I did the unthinkable. I threw spacers on the rear springs to level the car. You may now begin the flaming. Man that's HOT!!!
For those of you with weak stomachs please shut off your computers.
I can't be responsible for these gruesome pictures some of you are about to witness. I will say this much in my defense. Goals #1-4 have been met.
Lady friend rode in car and then promptly fed me. Even got desert.
God this car is smooth. I LOVE the handling and the leveled look. It is higher than everyone else with lowering springs, but lower than everyone else without lowering springs. This is the result of too many illegal activities in the 70's...Ok I've stalled enough...
I'm pretty sure my butt will start sagging again sometime in the future. Until then I'll enjoy the ride!
This is how it looked before.
03-17-2007, 04:59 AM
#3
That was definately a creative idea. I applaud your way of thinking. I haven't lowered for a couple of reasons. One of which was one of yours as well. I bought an SL...why convert to an SE with a stiffer ride? I love my nephews SE, but his is also a standard tranny, so it feels like a a rocket with his new tight suspension. Just like it should. Mine is an autotragic, so it wouldn't be the same to me.
The other reason I haven't lowered mine is because I am afraid I won't be able to get into my driveway to tuck 'her' in at night. My driveway bit my nephew's car once.
I like your way of thinking. Lower but make the ride just a touch softer than the full stiffness. I would like to see your pictures in a couple of days when she settles a bit. I also like the even ride. And from the sounds of 'other things': Mission Accomplished.
The other reason I haven't lowered mine is because I am afraid I won't be able to get into my driveway to tuck 'her' in at night. My driveway bit my nephew's car once.
I like your way of thinking. Lower but make the ride just a touch softer than the full stiffness. I would like to see your pictures in a couple of days when she settles a bit. I also like the even ride. And from the sounds of 'other things': Mission Accomplished.
03-17-2007, 08:11 AM
#7
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Coolmax05, no flames from me! I installed four spacers in each rear spring from day-one in my car. It raised the backend just enough to make the car appear level. Most important when I drive at night with two or three people in the backseat, the back end no longer sags and turns my low beams into high beams. The spacers also significantly firm the rear suspension and noticeably improve handling. They make the car feel more solid.
03-17-2007, 09:59 AM
#8
Thanks for the responses. I'm still waiting to get flamed.
Wow MDS you're coming out of the closet too huh. LOL
Maybe there are others who feared saying so but did the same thing.
Let us all come together and say "our rears are spaced butt we are proud"!
That didn't come out to well. Let me rehearse that one.
Thanks for the kind words 4myswee.
The grill is back on after epoxying on three bars across the back.
This stopped the noises and after painting does not look bad.
After 12 hours car still looks the same and is as level as can be.
I went through downtown Phoenix to test the suspension (huge potholes and construction going on). The suspension handled it extremely well. Yes the spacers stiffened the rear end a little bit. Feels great. Me happy!!!! That didn't sound too good as well. Let me say this...I am hetrosexual to the Max!
Wow MDS you're coming out of the closet too huh. LOL
Maybe there are others who feared saying so but did the same thing.
Let us all come together and say "our rears are spaced butt we are proud"!
That didn't come out to well. Let me rehearse that one.
Thanks for the kind words 4myswee.
The grill is back on after epoxying on three bars across the back.
This stopped the noises and after painting does not look bad.
After 12 hours car still looks the same and is as level as can be.
I went through downtown Phoenix to test the suspension (huge potholes and construction going on). The suspension handled it extremely well. Yes the spacers stiffened the rear end a little bit. Feels great. Me happy!!!! That didn't sound too good as well. Let me say this...I am hetrosexual to the Max!
03-17-2007, 11:49 AM
#10
Could the ride degradation happen after your springs settled b/c you also switched the shocks to the KYB GR2s, which are stiffer than stock?
Ultimately though, you reached your goal of lowering, leveling, maintaining ride comfort and getting some booty. I think that can be considered a successful operation.
The only other thing you could do to really make the Max look good is to paint it BLACK!! 
Ultimately though, you reached your goal of lowering, leveling, maintaining ride comfort and getting some booty. I think that can be considered a successful operation.
The only other thing you could do to really make the Max look good is to paint it BLACK!!
03-17-2007, 01:36 PM
#11
Originally Posted by BadBlackMaxSL
Could the ride degradation happen after your springs settled b/c you also switched the shocks to the KYB GR2s, which are stiffer than stock?
Ultimately though, you reached your goal of lowering, leveling, maintaining ride comfort and getting some booty. I think that can be considered a successful operation. The only other thing you could do to really make the Max look good is to paint it BLACK!!
Ultimately though, you reached your goal of lowering, leveling, maintaining ride comfort and getting some booty. I think that can be considered a successful operation.
The only other thing you could do to really make the Max look good is to paint it BLACK!! Black is beautiful but tough to keep clean looking. If our cars were together for a couple of weeks without car washes I'd surpass you in the looks department. Can we say "Jungle Fever"? Yes sung by Stevie Wonder...I'm sure the KKK can't stand that song. LOL
BTW I'm Black in a white car & you're probably White in a black car. As they say, opposites attract. Jungle Fever!!!
03-17-2007, 04:13 PM
#13
Originally Posted by coolmax05
This is how it looked before.
Kamski
03-18-2007, 12:41 AM
#16
Originally Posted by 2LEET4U
did you get an alignment after doing all that work?
Did you get your Progress springs installed today?
Can't wait to see your ride after it's finished bud.
I bet you're going to love the look.
03-18-2007, 02:48 PM
#17
Coolmax: Got yoru msg today.. Im glad all worked out for you! I would stll like your help on hte install part... I also bought some HID"s .... have any idea on how to do those 
... Ill buy ya beer and lunch...and maybe a suns game. Im hte biggest suns fan in CA hahah
... Ill buy ya beer and lunch...and maybe a suns game. Im hte biggest suns fan in CA hahah
03-20-2007, 12:35 PM
#20
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 109
car looks great with those rims. I just bought a white max. myself and am looking to put a light tint on the windows. I can't remember what the maximum percentage tint you can have here but it's not much. I don't feel like getting pulled over every day!!!
03-28-2007, 02:04 PM
#22
Originally Posted by coolmax05
Can we say "Jungle Fever"? Yes sung by Stevie Wonder...I'm sure the KKK can't stand that song. LOL
BTW I'm Black in a white car & you're probably White in a black car. As they say, opposites attract. Jungle Fever!!!
BTW I'm Black in a white car & you're probably White in a black car. As they say, opposites attract. Jungle Fever!!!
Your car looks great, it must be nice to live in a climate where your car can stay clean for a good while after washing it. We are always battling the weather here, rain, sleet or snow and with spring here, it will be the heavy green pollen dust.
03-28-2007, 03:38 PM
#23
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 42
all good but
all good ideas and I'm with you all the way except for one point, get those spacers out and replace with a full block that goes at the top or bottom of the spring, that type of spacer is really really bad for the springs. I've been wanting to lower the front of the car to level it out as well and very interesting to know that it takes more than jsut lowering the front.
thanks for the post and pics!!
thanks for the post and pics!!
03-28-2007, 04:37 PM
#24
Originally Posted by digitalfish
all good ideas and I'm with you all the way except for one point, get those spacers out and replace with a full block that goes at the top or bottom of the spring, that type of spacer is really really bad for the springs. I've been wanting to lower the front of the car to level it out as well and very interesting to know that it takes more than jsut lowering the front.
thanks for the post and pics!!
thanks for the post and pics!!
Regarding lowering the fronts only-with H&R springs it won't level the car.
but Progress or Eibachs will. If you're not to concerned with ride quality degradation then go with Progress or Eibachs. You can even use a spacer on the rear of one of the aforementioned.
Trust me, I am not done yet...
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