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GrimMax 02-10-2008 09:15 PM

Shopping List......Y-Pipe or ECU Next????
 
What up Peeps!!

Ok I finally got some money in and ready for the next performance mod :D. But I am stuck between either the Technosquare ECU reflash or the Cattman Y-Pipe. I currently have the following mods:

- CAI, Kinetix, Spacers, SPII, UDP

I was just wondering what you guys would recommend next for me out of these 2 mods and why. Help me out homies. :scratch:

DeusExMaxima 02-10-2008 09:18 PM

Well, there is several ways to think about this. Its better to do all your mods and then to TS reflash. Or, you can buy a piggy back (UTEC or SAFCII) and modify your maps as you make mods to your car. Im not sure the benefits of TS reflash over UTEC or SAFCII. Anyone?>

sleepymax 02-10-2008 09:18 PM

Cattman...Get the WHOLE system...Nice ride...I think CHERNMAX has the whole set up.His **** is crazy.

GrimMax 02-10-2008 09:31 PM


Originally Posted by DeusExMaxima (Post 6239940)
Well, there is several ways to think about this. Its better to do all your mods and then to TS reflash. Or, you can buy a piggy back (UTEC or SAFCII) and modify your maps as you make mods to your car. Im not sure the benefits of TS reflash over UTEC or SAFCII. Anyone?>

I do recall you talking about the UTEC. But I havent been eating my wheaties enough to learn more about it. Care to fill me in on this more?

Why is it better to do bolt-on's first?

GrimMax 02-10-2008 09:33 PM


Originally Posted by sleepymax (Post 6239941)
Cattman...Get the WHOLE system...Nice ride...I think CHERNMAX has the whole set up.His **** is crazy.

Cattman huh!?

I wanted to hold off on the Y-pipe because I rather throw the headers on at the same time. See.. this is why I need help. lol

NiZMo1o1 02-10-2008 09:46 PM

Well if your going to get every bolt on , then dont waste your time on just the Ypipe , Wait til Cattman comes out the Headers+Ypipe....

I say go for the TS Reflash

!PrjctMax! 02-10-2008 09:54 PM

Get the TS L-Spec version if you plan on hooking up another AFC later on. L-Spec is the "limited spec" that removes the speed limiter, raises the rev limiter, and enables you to hook up a AFC without the ECU "over-taking" it within a couple of days. L-spec is also cheaper than F-spec

For now, I say Cattman y-pipe

Hilbe 02-11-2008 04:30 AM


Originally Posted by GrimMax (Post 6239961)
Cattman huh!?

I wanted to hold off on the Y-pipe because I rather throw the headers on at the same time. See.. this is why I need help. lol

The Y-Pipe doesn't take more than 30 minutes to put on. So doing them both at the same time really doesn't save you much time. I would say get the Y-Pipe now and the headers later.

Also, I would do a piggy back system such as the SAFC II instead of doing the TS reflash. I think a tuner is going to be able to dial in more pony's than a TS flash.

redls1 02-11-2008 06:00 AM


Originally Posted by Hilbe (Post 6240141)
The Y-Pipe doesn't take more than 30 minutes to put on. So doing them both at the same time really doesn't save you much time. I would say get the Y-Pipe now and the headers later.

Also, I would do a piggy back system such as the SAFC II instead of doing the TS reflash. I think a tuner is going to be able to dial in more pony's than a TS flash.

But the SAFC II isnt going to be able to raise the rev limit,speed limit or other maps.

Hilbe 02-11-2008 06:06 AM


Originally Posted by redls1 (Post 6240195)
But the SAFC II isnt going to be able to raise the rev limit,speed limit or other maps.

True true. I think the way to go would be the Osirus from UpRev...if we ever get it to work with the Maxima...

!PrjctMax! 02-11-2008 09:07 AM

...no one read my post? :hide:

NiZMo1o1 02-11-2008 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by Hilbe (Post 6240141)
The Y-Pipe doesn't take more than 30 minutes to put on. So doing them both at the same time really doesn't save you much time. I would say get the Y-Pipe now and the headers later.

Also, I would do a piggy back system such as the SAFC II instead of doing the TS reflash. I think a tuner is going to be able to dial in more pony's than a TS flash.


I thought the the headers come with the Ypipe.. so if he buys a ypipe now , wouldnt he have an extra ypipe if he buys the headers ???

Extra work ? extra part to sell again ? why not save time and wait?

!PrjctMax! 02-11-2008 09:38 AM

Technically yes, but the EXHAUST MANIFOLDS of the "headers" have not been developed yet, so for those of us that already have the y-pipe will only need the exhaust manifolds when they come out.

Hilbe 02-11-2008 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by !PrjctMax! (Post 6240495)
Technically yes, but the EXHAUST MANIFOLDS of the "headers" have not been developed yet, so for those of us that already have the y-pipe will only need the exhaust manifolds when they come out.

:sprint: Exactly. Buying the Y-Pipe now vs later will be no different. Cattman will sell the Header + Y-Pipe together or separately when both parts are available.

NiZMo1o1 02-11-2008 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by Hilbe (Post 6240515)
:sprint: Exactly. Buying the Y-Pipe now vs later will be no different. Cattman will sell the Header + Y-Pipe together or separately when both parts are available.


Originally Posted by !PrjctMax! (Post 6240495)
Technically yes, but the EXHAUST MANIFOLDS of the "headers" have not been developed yet, so for those of us that already have the y-pipe will only need the exhaust manifolds when they come out.


I wasnt aware they would just sell the manifolds without the Ypipe... Ive done and sold some headers and None of the other companys that Ive dealt with has done that , nor was I aware Catts would do that..

I guess thats what makes him differnt from other companys

VigilanteMax 02-11-2008 11:46 AM

wait for headers, disappointing on dyno.

!PrjctMax! 02-11-2008 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by coitaltie (Post 6240709)
wait for headers, disappointing on dyno.

What's disappointing?

Hilbe 02-11-2008 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by !PrjctMax! (Post 6240853)
What's disappointing?

He had to pay to get it dyno'd?

I think most people feel the difference right away...

VQPRO 02-11-2008 01:56 PM

I hade the CE y pipe before and it kills your low end torque, and my gas mileage was horrible, i would go for a s-afc2 are the reflash for better fuel curve since you already have good breathing mods

VigilanteMax 02-11-2008 02:29 PM

I have pre ypipe and cattman catback dyno number and post number. the torque is most likely what you feel. Reality is about 5 whp increase. same Dynojet and same temps, barometric pressure and all that other bull malarky. IE wait for headers

GrimMax 02-12-2008 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by NiZMo1o1 (Post 6239974)
Well if your going to get every bolt on , then dont waste your time on just the Ypipe , Wait til Cattman comes out the Headers+Ypipe....

I say go for the TS Reflash

LOL

Which one?

See thats what I am thinking. I mean get the TS now and wait for the Y-pipe when the headers come out

GrimMax 02-12-2008 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by redls1 (Post 6240195)
But the SAFC II isnt going to be able to raise the rev limit,speed limit or other maps.

Is this confirmed?

GrimMax 02-12-2008 08:19 PM


Originally Posted by !PrjctMax! (Post 6239986)
Get the TS L-Spec version if you plan on hooking up another AFC later on. L-Spec is the "limited spec" that removes the speed limiter, raises the rev limiter, and enables you to hook up a AFC without the ECU "over-taking" it within a couple of days. L-spec is also cheaper than F-spec

For now, I say Cattman y-pipe

I am assuming that the TS L-Spec is the one that TS shows on their website. It states that the speed limiter will be removed.



Do you have the L-Spec version?

NiZMo1o1 02-12-2008 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by GrimMax (Post 6243267)
Is this confirmed?

SAFC only adjust fuel and air , it doesnt removed anything from the ECU ,

JWT use to do this on their ECU for the older generations

TS is the what you want for your 6th gen , it frees up some hp and raise the limiter

GrimMax 02-12-2008 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by NiZMo1o1 (Post 6243321)
SAFC only adjust fuel and air , it doesnt removed anything from the ECU ,

JWT use to do this on their ECU for the older generations

TS is the what you want for your 6th gen , it frees up some hp and raise the limiter

Awesome info.

Ok I am surely leaning toward the TS now.

Does anyone have this mod though? Any gains actually scene?

The TS site states 20HP gain. I dont believe that but maybe 10HP?

NiZMo1o1 02-12-2008 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by GrimMax (Post 6243332)
Awesome info.

Ok I am surely leaning toward the TS now.

Does anyone have this mod though? Any gains actually scene?

The TS site states 20HP gain. I dont believe that but maybe 10HP?

No it really does free up alot

Members from knowledge , Prjctmax, Chern , Kevin007 , Few others But doesnt come to mind.. I will be sending my ECU out as soon as I get my car back

!PrjctMax! 02-12-2008 09:22 PM


Originally Posted by GrimMax (Post 6243262)
See thats what I am thinking. I mean get the TS now and wait for the Y-pipe when the headers come out

Save this for last...unless you want to reflash for a more accurate AFR after anymore bolt-ons you may get.


Originally Posted by GrimMax (Post 6243267)
Is this confirmed?

Yes, that's confirmed longz ago


Originally Posted by GrimMax (Post 6243272)
I am assuming that the TS L-Spec is the one that TS shows on their website. It states that the speed limiter will be removed.

Do you have the L-Spec version?

The one that they show is the full spec at $495 IIRC

I have the F-Spec and after having it and going through many different possibilities of altering AFR, I'm regretting I got the F-Spec, but w/e


Originally Posted by GrimMax (Post 6243332)
Awesome info.

Ok I am surely leaning toward the TS now.

Does anyone have this mod though? Any gains actually scene?

The TS site states 20HP gain. I dont believe that but maybe 10HP?

"freeing" up some parameters in the ECU itself will aid in power increase, but getting more mods and THEN reflashing your ECU would be the best route because you can dyno with AFR before sending your ECU, and then send the ECU with your run-files, so that they can adjust accordingly

NmexMAX 02-13-2008 06:33 AM

TS is the only software company, as of right now, that can alter the CVTC map.

GrimMax 02-15-2008 05:15 PM

Thanks for all the feedback homies.

Ive decided to go with the Y-Pipe for now. I agree with what Prjctmax and will hold off on the TS until the headers are also installed.

Thanks a bunch homies for the support.

Case is officially closed. lol

mdollazs05 05-17-2008 10:25 AM

Hey,


Any one can help me install an ECU, in 2004 max.The ECU, shorted out in the dealer, want 3k to fix.Has any one experienced an ecu problem. If so how difficult would it be to install my self.Im also looking on ebay having trouble finding 5spd AT, with traction control .Im also not to sure about the adaptive crusie control system the parts stores keep asking about.Do We even have that? any help will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Mdollazs05

mdollazs05 05-17-2008 10:25 AM

Hey,


Any one can help me install an ECU, in 2004 max.The ECU, shorted out in the dealer, want 3k to fix.Has any one experienced an ecu problem. If so how difficult would it be to install my self.Im also looking on ebay having trouble finding 5spd AT, with traction control .Im also not to sure about the adaptive crusie control system the parts stores keep asking about.Do We even have that? any help will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Mdollazs05

NmexMAX 05-17-2008 10:31 AM

www.car-part.com, then have your dealer prgram the key for the new ECU, done.

!PrjctMax! 05-17-2008 12:33 PM

If only you didn't have traction control...


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