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Old 06-03-2008, 05:49 PM
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SSIM and Polishing Of UIM....

Well, with the help of a few friends, i am going to have my UIM polished and then do the SSIM mod...

I have recently installed my IMS kit from AAron92se... bought the VIAS block plate from him as well ...

Dues is going to lend me his old UIM so i dont have any down time w/ my car...

I then will be taking the Manifold to my friend here in town... He works at a shop that does polishing and port etc...

hes going to charge me 100 total to do the inside shelf removal and outside polishing...

WHAT A DEAL!!

I wll be dropping it off some time new week...My guy is out town this whole week but will return on next monday...... Just have to meet up w/ dues first and get his old one...

anyway... I will try to get a dyno sometime this week... and then do it again after this job...should solve all arguements about the power gains..

Anyway... With me luck...

Pix to come very soon...
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Hey Fast that's cool. $100 is an awesome deal. It's gonna look sharp with your new carbon fiber cover. Pics, pics, pics, and +1 on the dyno.
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Hey Fast that's cool. $100 is an awesome deal. It's gonna look sharp with your new carbon fiber cover. Pics, pics, pics, and +1 on the dyno.
Thanks man!! yeah 100 is insane... Hes a good guy haha...

I cant wait for it to be done... it really will be sexy w/ the cover !!!
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Post pics on the inside of the IM...make sure that it is done with precision
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Oh i will... any other tips?

Im doing just the upper mani... ill still feel a difference right? i know you did both..

I think the polish on the outside will look SICK!
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Originally Posted by Fastmax05
Oh i will... any other tips?

Im doing just the upper mani... ill still feel a difference right? i know you did both..

I think the polish on the outside will look SICK!
I only had the SSIM done, which=UIM

Just make sure that all the runners are smooth and just the entire inside is smooth and flawless for optimal flow
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When you say runner are smooth... what do u mean...
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NOT like this



Like THIS



No jagged edges to interrupt flow
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Thanks for the pic... ill print it and bring it with me...
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Good pic Prjct, helps me understand.

Fast, the other nice thing is that you're one of the few that actually takes you car to the track after doing "go fast" mods. It will be interesting to see if you shave some time off, as well gain whp from your dyno. (I gained 14whp when I added the Cattman Y and the Nismo exhaust) I think you seriously need to get a catback system. I don't see it on you list of mods. Your taking in lots of air, need to get it out fast too

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Originally Posted by Apollos2
Good pic Prjct, helps me understand.

Fast, the other nice thing is that you're one of the few that actually takes you car to the track after doing "go fast" mods. It will be interesting to see if you shave some time off, as well gain whp from your dyno. (I gained 14whp when I added the Cattman Y and the Nismo exhaust) I think you seriously need to get a catback system. I don't see it on you list of mods. Your taking in lots of air, need to get it out fast too
I hope to be in the high 13's.... 13.6-13.9...

Last time i ran i put down a 14.2 and that was before the manifold spacer kit, UDP, Removed VIS and now i have new tires
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Oh 13's would be sweet for a NA car. I can't wait until I can get my first runs of the year. Been getting rained out lately
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Originally Posted by !PrjctMax!
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No jagged edges to interrupt flow
WOW, where and how do I get a hold of the chool that did this one? VERY NICE.
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I purchased the IM with the job already done it
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Its going to look real good when its done. 100 dollars is a great price. I paid alot more than that.



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Yours looks good on the outside, but it's what's not in the inside and how clean it was removed what counts for all intents and purposes of this thread.
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Yours looks good on the outside, but it's what's not in the inside and how clean it was removed what counts for all intents and purposes of this thread.
I had it ported and polished on the inside also but I have no pictures of it.
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Originally Posted by ramberg
I had it ported and polished on the inside also but I have no pictures of it.
Hacked the shelf out too? Did you port match the TB, elbow, LIM, & heads?
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Seems like the Kinetix is the way to go rather than going to time and trouble of having stock manifold polished externally polished internally, hacked up internally, and waiting for that to be done and paying for the time to have the work done.
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Originally Posted by ramberg
Its going to look real good when its done. 100 dollars is a great price. I paid alot more than that.



Very nice Ramberg! That is ther cleanest stock-modified manifold I've seen by far!
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Originally Posted by DeusExMaxima
Seems like the Kinetix is the way to go rather than going to time and trouble of having stock manifold polished externally polished internally, hacked up internally, and waiting for that to be done and paying for the time to have the work done.
Maybe for those who care about looks.

Mine looks stock on the outside, but isn't stock internally, and performs well, and cost 220$ total, and maybe a 2 week wait. Wow, it's already been 3 years.
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Maybe for those who care about looks.

Mine looks stock on the outside, but isn't stock internally, and performs well, and cost 220$ total, and maybe a 2 week wait. Wow, it's already been 3 years.
Well I cant imagine that a modified stock manifold performs better than a Kinetix. If your cost $220 total, its probably double that for external polishing and then you have to have your car down for a week, so add that cost of inconvenience plus rental car if no alternative is available.
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My car was not down for a week, I bought a used unit from a junkyard, sent it to get done, and drove my car with the OEM unit while the junkyard unit was getting done.

I don't care how my IM looks, so I didn't worry about the external feature, so I save money on that. With respect to that, it's all personal preference.

Since this can turn into a pissing match very soon, if it hasn't already, I will limit this as my last comment on IM performance.

Until I see a dyno that shows definitive results that the Kinetix is better than an SSIM, I will save my money and stare at my dull SSIM manifold.

If a dyno DOES show up that proves it is better (highly unlikely), I will gladly fit an OEM Z33 unit w/ 5/16" Motordyne spacer on it, for less than half the price of the Kinetix.
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Mark, I love you, but Manny is right on this one...that's if people's priorities are performance>looks
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Originally Posted by !PrjctMax!
Mark, I love you, but Manny is right on this one...that's if people's priorities are performance>looks
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VS.


Sometimes the opposite is true



IM SORRY IF YOU DONT GET THIS COMPARISON, MAYBE YOUR JUST NOT AS DIRTY AS I AM. YEAH BABY YEAH!!!

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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
.....Until I see a dyno that shows definitive results that the Kinetix is better than an SSIM, I will save my money and stare at my dull SSIM manifold....
Well the whole point the thread is that Fast is getting perhaps the best compromise between the two. Performance and looks.

In my opinion Kinetix looks > > Polished IM.
But sounds like perhaps SSIM performance > Kinetix but then again until we see some before and after dynos on the 6thgen I'm in the wait and see mode.

It would kind of come down to money for me, it almost always does when it comes to mods.
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Originally Posted by Apollos2
the best compromise between the two. Performance and looks.
I'll agree wit that. Toss in price and
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If I want to go with this mod what tools do I need? Is there a write up on how to do it?

I just added my NWP spacers this past weekend and love them so far. When I removed the UIM I noticed the restricting plate inside and was tempted to cut it off, but I want to first know what I need to do and what not to do.

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Originally Posted by ramberg
Its going to look real good when its done. 100 dollars is a great price. I paid alot more than that.



all i can say is WOW
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Originally Posted by myer84
If I want to go with this mod what tools do I need? Is there a write up on how to do it?

I just added my NWP spacers this past weekend and love them so far. When I removed the UIM I noticed the restricting plate inside and was tempted to cut it off, but I want to first know what I need to do and what not to do.

Thanks
I did mine myself. It took me about 3 hours to cut the shelf out and smooth it out. I used the following

Recipricating saw - a must
Carbon metal cutting blades for the saw- I used about 2 and a little bit of a 3rd
Dremel - Used about 30 or more cheap metal cutting cut off disk. Buy the good ones you'll thank yourself. I also used about 3 aluminum grinding bits.

The hardest part was the smoothing of the inside of it. The shelf wasnt really that hard to come out it just take some time for the bits to do there job.

It was definitly worth it though. I feel way more power from 4.2 rpms and a ton more power from about 5.5 up to 7.2 rpms. I wish I had a 7.8 redline as I'm sure it would pull all the way up to it. Not bad for somthing that cost me nothing since I already had all the tools.
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Just because a hoover vac can suck 3 year old sheet off the floor dont mean youd put your D*&k in it.

Give me performance and looks

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Ahhh shoot, that was around the time that I had to scramble to find & move into a new garage and keep my auto repair business afloat while doing so. I'm now very easy to get ahold of, If I don't answer I always promptly return messages. I'm also available on aim alot as well under the name VQ35DEswap. My # is 774-766-7462 Kevin
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SSIM = EPIC fail without TS REFLASH

http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/eng...-vs-stock.html

Block of plate with stock Intake provide best gains. Well unless your fortunate/crazy enough to have TSQ reflash with a 7400 redline. Then you benefit 12 extra ponies.

Anyone care to argue with Dyno #?

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Originally Posted by kamski
http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/eng...-vs-stock.html

Block of plate with stock Intake provide best gains. Well unless your fortunate/crazy enough to have TSQ reflash with a 7400 redline. Then you benefit 12 extra ponies.

Anyone care to argue with Dyno #?
Maybe I might try to delete the VIAS first and see how that goes. Last Friday I went to the track and ran 14.8 on a 1/4 mile. Sat I finally installed my spacers and might remove the VIAS this coming weekend. Once I remove it I will hit the track again and see how low I can get with my time.

I also got my Nismo rims this past weekend. Just waiting to save up on new tires.
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Originally Posted by DeusExMaxima
Seems like the Kinetix is the way to go rather than going to time and trouble of having stock manifold polished externally polished internally, hacked up internally, and waiting for that to be done and paying for the time to have the work done.

how do you figure? $100 vs $700??? you can polish it in less then a day. there is no down time. and it's easy enough to do all of it yourself and have it cost well less then $100 as well.

also polishing the underneath and inside FOR THE LOSS. you DO NOT want in inside polished.
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Originally Posted by myer84
Maybe I might try to delete the VIAS first and see how that goes. Last Friday I went to the track and ran 14.8 on a 1/4 mile. Sat I finally installed my spacers and might remove the VIAS this coming weekend. Once I remove it I will hit the track again and see how low I can get with my time.

I also got my Nismo rims this past weekend. Just waiting to save up on new tires.
I doubt you'll notice anything from removing just the vias. I had removed mine and just put on the block off plate and didnt notice a durn thing. I believe there is a dyno floating around that actually shows a pretty signifigant loss from about 3.0 to 4.2 rpms I think it was about 12 hp. In that particular dyno the vias was disabled though not removed so if your gonna do it do it right. Who knows maybe you'll pick up like 2 hp.
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Originally Posted by kamski
http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/eng...-vs-stock.html

Block of plate with stock Intake provide best gains. Well unless your fortunate/crazy enough to have TSQ reflash with a 7400 redline. Then you benefit 12 extra ponies.

Anyone care to argue with Dyno #?
I agree with the reflash + SSIM statement but do not agree with 7400 RPM, don't believe what your tach tells you.
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