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DeusExMaxima 09-18-2009 11:53 PM

Aluminum radiator - feeler thread
 
I am wondering if you guys are interested in an aluminum radiator for your car. Aside from good looks, they generally are lighter and are about 30% more efficient in cooling than their brass/copper/plastic counterparts. They cost more, but last waaaaaaay longer since the parts are welded instead of brazed or epoxied. My son's Tiburon radiator literally came apart a couple months ago and its a typical OEM radiator.

If you live in warmer climates, drive up hills espically with AC on, tow, or have turbo (Chern!!), then this might help out with cooling. I imagine there may be a performance gain by having a cooler engine. Thoughts?

My-Body-Is-Ready 09-19-2009 02:21 PM

lol not many people are gonna be interested except a good handful of us. you know im down dues let me know!

07 Graymax 09-19-2009 04:09 PM

hey mark, sure you know i'd be interested, if it fits/works for my 07. how much we talkin? i'll start saving up for it if it is a good deal, plus i'm saving up for a set of remus mufflers so get back to me asap.

eK9aT10pSi 09-19-2009 11:06 PM

heres koyo high performance one. tryin to find out if this is all alluminum

http://www.go-part.com/0406-nissan-m...3-p-23582.html

My-Body-Is-Ready 09-20-2009 05:38 AM


Originally Posted by eK9aT10pSi (Post 7210699)
heres koyo high performance one. tryin to find out if this is all alluminum

http://www.go-part.com/0406-nissan-m...3-p-23582.html


they dont make a "high performance" one for us. but the one they do have is aluminum though.

DeusExMaxima 09-20-2009 07:43 AM

Price is unknown. If you look at the price of other Mishimoto brand radiators, you may be able to estimate what the cost of ours will be. I think if people remember that a cooler motor is a longer lasting motor they will spend an extra $100 or so for an all aluminum radiator.

bdmaxima 09-20-2009 08:34 AM

im down

Propa Teknique 09-20-2009 08:37 AM

I would be down for it. I found a couple of places that may see them:

http://www.genesisautoparts.com/all_...t5l_v6_215.htm <==Showing Out of Stock

http://www.car-stuff.com/carparts/ni...269326432.html <== Aluminum core w/ Plastic Endtanks (NOT all-aluminum right?)

Not too sure about these, but they were the only ones I could find...

DeusExMaxima 09-20-2009 10:03 AM

Mishimoto is making one for our car and the prototype is in Japan right now for production. The estimated time for a procution model is 2-3 months and that was a month ago. I saw the prototype. Its an all aluminum radiator and it looks gorgeous.

My-Body-Is-Ready 09-20-2009 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by DeusExMaxima (Post 7210997)
Mishimoto is making one for our car and the prototype is in Japan right now for production. The estimated time for a procution model is 2-3 months and that was a month ago. I saw the prototype. Its an all aluminum radiator and it looks gorgeous.

for all those guys that are saying they are down you do know that high performance all aluminum radiators can cost up to 600 right?

bdmaxima 09-20-2009 04:24 PM

2-3 months from now is plenty of time to save up lol

po8pimp 09-20-2009 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by Look-at-my-MAX (Post 7211106)
for all those guys that are saying they are down you do know that high performance all aluminum radiators can cost up to 600 right?

Bought one for my 96 pathfinder for 125 about 6 months ago. So 400-600 is probably a good estimate. Maybe we can get a group buy and reduce the price a bit.

My-Body-Is-Ready 09-22-2009 06:18 PM

updates dues? is this def happening?

DeusExMaxima 09-23-2009 02:00 AM

It is happening and it will be ready in a couple months.

4DRZ 09-24-2009 09:32 PM

Sounds very familiar to me. :)

Originally Posted by DeusExMaxima (Post 7216056)
It is happening and it will be ready in a couple months.


thealliance43 09-25-2009 08:36 AM

benefits?

tonedef 09-25-2009 10:34 AM

im in....

the macedonian 09-25-2009 11:47 AM

For me it all depends on what the $$ would be to get that thing shipped to Canada.... but the benefits outweigh the price so I'd most likely be in ;)

Juiced SE-R 09-25-2009 12:14 PM

I'd be interested.

tuko316 09-25-2009 02:56 PM

I'm down

04BlackMaxx 09-25-2009 09:19 PM


Originally Posted by eK9aT10pSi (Post 7210699)
heres koyo high performance one. tryin to find out if this is all alluminum

http://www.go-part.com/0406-nissan-m...3-p-23582.html

I like the 04-05 rims on the 07?

mt2marc1 09-26-2009 10:58 PM

i saw a couple people ask if the alum core plastic tanks are the same and the answer is no. I am the manager of 3 radiator shops, just to clear a couple things up alum radiators are decent they do have better performance but you cant bring them to any radiator shop to fix. also some alum radiators do have epoxy on the headers and when they start leaking you just re epoxy them which is called "running a header" the best radiator you can have in you car is a all metal copper brass. Row's also can make a big difference generally car radiators are 1-2 rows with bigger tubes. So if someone were to make a copper brass 3 row med. size tubs you would have the best of both worlds and the best performance/cooling.. My shop can custom make anything if anyone would acually be intrested in spending some $$ i can order a stock maxima radiator any year and see if i can make something up..

Forgot a couple things, the reason not any radiator shop can fix the alum radiators is most radiator shops dont alum weld which is what would be needed for one of those type radiators.. last thing some alum radiators will last forever but i have seen myself day in and day out alum radiators leaking faster then plasic radiators.. If your car has alot of vibrations like solid mounts or anything that would cause the radiator to vibrate alot it will spring a leak it has to be in the vehicle VERY secure.

DeusExMaxima 09-27-2009 11:16 PM

Its hard to imagine a solid aluminum radiator having leaks, especially if its well-made. If you use distilled water with coolant the radiator most likely will not plug up. I would not foresee a radiator like this ever needing repair, except if got damaged.

nyana107 09-27-2009 11:27 PM

i'm in

mt2marc1 09-29-2009 06:25 PM

just so you guys know i can make it happen for you like i said we custom make **** all the time.. IF you guys need me to get em for you just let me know. Here's a picture of the one's i had made for my spec v just to give you an idea.

https://i277.photobucket.com/albums/...1/IMG_0159.jpg

Nismo4life07 09-29-2009 07:10 PM

off-topic, but, you wear DC's. :D

DeusExMaxima 09-29-2009 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by mt2marc1 (Post 7228471)
just so you guys know i can make it happen for you like i said we custom make **** all the time.. IF you guys need me to get em for you just let me know. Here's a picture of the one's i had made for my spec v just to give you an idea.

https://i277.photobucket.com/albums/...1/IMG_0159.jpg

What feedback have u gotten from people with aluminum radiators regarding cooling and performance. How much lighter are aluminum radiators than their OEM counterpart?

mt2marc1 09-30-2009 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by DeusExMaxima (Post 7228579)
What feedback have u gotten from people with aluminum radiators regarding cooling and performance. How much lighter are aluminum radiators than their OEM counterpart?


People ususally love alum radiators, cooling and performance are always boosted. The cooling side will help you at least 20 percent. The one i shipped out today for a spec v was 11.5 lbs. The best part is there is a lifetime limited warranty.

Also depending on how many are ordered i can get the price's down. Starting at right around 200ish.. I can check a little more into it tomorrow when im at work. I can prolly get em down to 130-140 shipped if not less. if i got a **** ton of people wanting these

redmaxpa007 09-30-2009 05:41 PM

damn.. that is cheap

tonedef 09-30-2009 06:15 PM

yes it is... hmmm...

mt2marc1 09-30-2009 06:17 PM

the price's i put in up top are what i can get my spec v radiators down to if say a bunch of people ordered them, They are 1 row radiator's but dont let that fool you. if you look at the koyo performance unit they are 2 row units but the row's are small. I found that the 1 row HUGE tube unit's tend to cool alot better then a 2 row small tube unit. The price's for maxima radiators should be about the same. And i should be able to get them done for any year. so if we did like gd type of thing the amount the it takes to make the price go down would be for any year maxima. Hope this helps guys. If anyone is intresed in one let me know your year maxima and ill take some pictures in a day or two when i get it.

redmaxpa007 09-30-2009 06:18 PM

since 3rd gen altimas (well i know the 05-06's are) are the same as the 6th gen maximas... you can get more people on this..

mt2marc1 09-30-2009 06:20 PM

one of my customers wanted to be a little different so this is what i did for him..


http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...oy/specv-2.jpg

NiZMo1o1 09-30-2009 07:22 PM

Might need to jump on this as well, Florida's heat + boost = need more cooling..

po8pimp 10-01-2009 01:36 AM

If you can do this can we get a group buy option started? Also shipping prices to places like Canada and Hawaii would be helpful as well.

nyana107 10-01-2009 01:46 AM

nice price i'm interested :)

97Maximus 10-02-2009 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by DeusExMaxima (Post 7224996)
Its hard to imagine a solid aluminum radiator having leaks, especially if its well-made. If you use distilled water with coolant the radiator most likely will not plug up. I would not foresee a radiator like this ever needing repair, except if got damaged.

its called fatigue.. just like the man said.. if its not held down securely, vibrations can become your enemy..
but other than that performance should be great! very interested in this.. we should get a list going on this.. i for one know someone who will be needing one in the near future so the sooner these things get into production the better.. im assuming the wall thickness would allow for a boosted application?

mt2marc1 10-04-2009 02:36 AM


Originally Posted by 97Maximus (Post 7233734)
its called fatigue.. just like the man said.. if its not held down securely, vibrations can become your enemy..
but other than that performance should be great! very interested in this.. we should get a list going on this.. i for one know someone who will be needing one in the near future so the sooner these things get into production the better.. im assuming the wall thickness would allow for a boosted application?

ya, performance should be good. im gonna order a 07 stock radiator monday morning to see what kinda things i can do. As far as wall thickness, the thiicker i go the price's tend to go up. Let me see what i can do for you guys and ill post results on monday morning when i get to the shop.

But if ur stock radiator's hold up on boost all alum will hold up the same. The plastic tanks are usually what crack's on stock radiators with metal in place of the plastic, tanks cracking usually isnt an issue anymore. And as long as the radiator doesnt fail due to your cooling system, thermostat, rust etc.. i can warranty it.

blue rock 11 10-04-2009 08:08 PM

just got my mishimoto radiator in i paid $240 on amazon i also got blue hoses and a tranny cooler the top plastic end tank cracked on my stock. My alliminum radiator that i just got in is very well built it weights adount 30lb does anybody have any pic of there tranny cooler i need ideas on how to install and where to mount

po8pimp 10-05-2009 02:22 PM

I would suggest asking your question in the correct gen forum. This thread was made for the 6th gen because they don't currently offer an aftermarket radiator for our car.


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