Buying 6th Gen... which transmission.....
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Buying 6th Gen... which transmission.....
Im just about to purchase an 04 or 05 Max, since my 5th gen is sitting in front of my house with a dead transmission...
my question pertains to the transmissions in the 6th gen, I have read alot about the issues concerned with them and have taken that into consideration, I am also aware that nissan has extended the warranty on the CVT trans for 10yrs and 120,000 miles.
I also read that the 04 SL came with a 4spd AT up until may 04 production date, and after that came with a 5spd, SO........
am I looking at the same transmission isssues with both the 4spd and the 5spd AT? or is one better then the other?
my question pertains to the transmissions in the 6th gen, I have read alot about the issues concerned with them and have taken that into consideration, I am also aware that nissan has extended the warranty on the CVT trans for 10yrs and 120,000 miles.
I also read that the 04 SL came with a 4spd AT up until may 04 production date, and after that came with a 5spd, SO........
am I looking at the same transmission isssues with both the 4spd and the 5spd AT? or is one better then the other?
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yeah i would love a manual, but also want the leather pkg etc of the SL, and the chances of me finding an SE with a manual tranny along with the leather and seat heaters etc of the SL pkg is pretty slim, i know they are out there, but none that i have seen yet
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Mine is manual and fully loaded, leather, heated seats, heated steering wheel, folding mirrors, so yeah, they're out there.
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so that transmission warranty i guess doesnt apply to the 04 and 05 maximas... crap
But I thought i read some posts with people with 04's and 05's getting their transmissions fixed/rebuilt under the extended warranty??? maybe i misread
But I thought i read some posts with people with 04's and 05's getting their transmissions fixed/rebuilt under the extended warranty??? maybe i misread
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def consider the 6mt... if not make sure its an 06 + ... 04-05 have the ranny issue.. especially the 5 speed autos. im on my second tranny and i amm 100% im not the only one on here with the problem
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6th generation(04TO 06) (07'S started with the CVT Tranny) is a solid car except for the transmission,it like a crap game you might have problems or you won't at all with the tranny. Usually you will start seeing problems between 50000 to 80000 miles the tranny will either shift hard or slip mine started to downshift hard sometimes who knows the tranny could of lasted for a long time after that but the dealer was a straight up dealership and the mechanic came out and told me he did not like the way the tranny shifts so they replaced it with a new rebuild (under warranty)which means the insides of the tranny is all new parts but the casing which is the housing that holds everything is used. Basically it's a new transmission. If it's a good deal buy it make sure the tranny shifts smoothly from start to stop,the engines on these cars are bullet proof you take care of it and it will last for tons of miles!!!
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06 had the same transmissions in them as late 04 and 05,s not everyone has issues with there tranny,s if you take all the Maximas built between 04 and 06 ill bet the percentage is less than 15%, now for the person who wants to buy a reasonable priced 04 or 05 you have to weigh your options if you buy a 07 and it costs you 4 to 5 grand more than a 04 or 05 it still would be cheaper to replace a transmission than spend more money on a 07 that's even if the transmission goes bad and if it doesn't your ahead of the game. I personally do not like how the CVT,s work it has a false sense to its hard to explain.
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so i test drove an early 04 SL tonight, had the 4spd non-tiptronic AT, and i didnt like the way it shifted into 2nd gear, so the search continues.
and so far i cant find a single 5sp MT for sale anywhere within 100miles of south Jersey
and so far i cant find a single 5sp MT for sale anywhere within 100miles of south Jersey
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ok, so I found a great deal on a really nice 04 thats about 2 hours away, BUT....
its manufacture date is March of 04 which means it should technically have the older 4spd AT, but in the pictures of it you can see it has the Tiptronic.....which confused me cause i thought the older 4spd didnt have the tiptronic???
its manufacture date is March of 04 which means it should technically have the older 4spd AT, but in the pictures of it you can see it has the Tiptronic.....which confused me cause i thought the older 4spd didnt have the tiptronic???
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ok, so I found a great deal on a really nice 04 thats about 2 hours away, BUT....
its manufacture date is March of 04 which means it should technically have the older 4spd AT, but in the pictures of it you can see it has the Tiptronic.....which confused me cause i thought the older 4spd didnt have the tiptronic???
its manufacture date is March of 04 which means it should technically have the older 4spd AT, but in the pictures of it you can see it has the Tiptronic.....which confused me cause i thought the older 4spd didnt have the tiptronic???
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If you go on autotrader.com, you will find at least a couple of dozen 04-06 Maximas with a manual transmission and leather. I found one with only 14,000 miles last June. You'll feel a lot more connected to the car with a manual tranny.
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have you asked dealers to locate one for you? here's one on craigslist in NH google found in 5 hits
http://nh.craigslist.org/ctd/1566286750.html
as for you SL 4speed question, they were 1st sold in MARCH 2003. so an SL in march 2004 was plenty late build and should have the 5 speed. pretty sure it switch mid build year.
http://nh.craigslist.org/ctd/1566286750.html
as for you SL 4speed question, they were 1st sold in MARCH 2003. so an SL in march 2004 was plenty late build and should have the 5 speed. pretty sure it switch mid build year.
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A better question is what is your price range? You may find out what you want and what you can afford are two different things.... Before I bought my 07 Max I was loking for a 07 Altima 3.5 SE with leather and the technology package.All I found were ones above my price range. I wanted items such as sunroof, leather, spoiler, CVT, larger rims, Bluetooth, and Bose.
I found out these items pushed the Altima into the 19k range and above in my area.
You have said 04-07 max thats a big jump in price between the years.
As for what tranny is better.... It sounds like you are looking for reliability... In that case You need to figure out if an auto or manual would be best. If an auto, get an 07 with cvt and the 120k warranty hands down. If the price of an 07 is too high and you can live with a 5spd or like a 5spd better, get that.
In the end I bought my 07 Max S.E. with all the options and 65k miles for right at 16k out the door from a big name dealer.
I found out these items pushed the Altima into the 19k range and above in my area.
You have said 04-07 max thats a big jump in price between the years.
As for what tranny is better.... It sounds like you are looking for reliability... In that case You need to figure out if an auto or manual would be best. If an auto, get an 07 with cvt and the 120k warranty hands down. If the price of an 07 is too high and you can live with a 5spd or like a 5spd better, get that.
In the end I bought my 07 Max S.E. with all the options and 65k miles for right at 16k out the door from a big name dealer.
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Yeah so I found one manual tranny about 2 hours north of me, but the dealership showed the carfax report and it was in a bad wreck... so that one is a No
Thanks for that craigslist one, its really nice, but im not too fond of the color, im looking for silver, white, or black.
as far as my price range, i too just found an 07 with 60k on it for $16,000 which i might go look at thursday morning, its more then i wanted to spend, but if the 04 and 05 that i am also going to look at (in the $12k range) feel crappy in the transmission, then I think I am gonna have to go for the 07
Thanks for that craigslist one, its really nice, but im not too fond of the color, im looking for silver, white, or black.
as far as my price range, i too just found an 07 with 60k on it for $16,000 which i might go look at thursday morning, its more then i wanted to spend, but if the 04 and 05 that i am also going to look at (in the $12k range) feel crappy in the transmission, then I think I am gonna have to go for the 07
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mid 04-06 SL also that same 5AT
early 04 SL 4AT
it seems that during the 04 runs many of the "1st year" bugs were resolved. My 04 SE was built in march or april of 04. that is over a year after they were available. assembly began mid to late 02 to hit the dealer lots by March 03.
the issues are a small percentage. majority come to our forum for help. that doesnt make it the majority of the ones out there that have a particular problem necessarily (like the shimmy).
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Thanks all,
going up tomorrow morning to try to work out the right payments for a white 07 (#1 choice) but if that doesnt work out, theres a late 04 (gray) and a 05 (black) that are back up choices...
the fun part is going to be driving my 5th gen 2 hours up there to trade in that has no reverse.... i just hope it makes it there lol.....
going up tomorrow morning to try to work out the right payments for a white 07 (#1 choice) but if that doesnt work out, theres a late 04 (gray) and a 05 (black) that are back up choices...
the fun part is going to be driving my 5th gen 2 hours up there to trade in that has no reverse.... i just hope it makes it there lol.....
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04 and 05 Tranny
If you only want to spend 12k but are possibly going to spend 16k + financing thats about 5k more a transmission in a 04 or 05 is about 3000k it would be cheaper to find a low milage 05 to 06 and IF the tranny goes which it may not happen at all you save 2k to 5k also you could buy a good extended warranty for about 1500.00 that would cover you for many many miles!!
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In terms of reliability 4AT and CVT > 5AT
In terms of performance 5AT > 4AT and CVT
IMHO
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So buying a 6th Gen is a gamble...
I owned a 4th gen. It went out on my at 289,000+ miles last August (tranny). I wanted to purchase a 6th gen for reliability...not so much performance wise...I personally think these cars perform enough compared to my old 4th gen but I don't want to take a gamble...
so in that it would be best to go for an 07, but i've read alot of reviews about MPG not being so good...is that true in you guys opinions?
I owned a 4th gen. It went out on my at 289,000+ miles last August (tranny). I wanted to purchase a 6th gen for reliability...not so much performance wise...I personally think these cars perform enough compared to my old 4th gen but I don't want to take a gamble...
so in that it would be best to go for an 07, but i've read alot of reviews about MPG not being so good...is that true in you guys opinions?
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2004-2005 Maxima Tranny Problem Solved?
I went to the nissan dealership with my 2005 nissan maxima because my tranny was slipping at 80k miles, and they told me the reason my tranny was slipping was because I had an Altima transmission in it.
ok.., i said i know i bought it at a used car dealership, but if someone put a altima tranny in it, dont you think it would last a bit longer than 80k? so your telling me this 05 maxima had the original tranny replaced around 40k? comon now!
so anyway, they said i needed a maxima tranny for the core to send it back to nissan dealership and they didnt want to take my altima core, so i went to a dismantle shop that took off parts of cars, and a company had a tranny core that came right off a 2005 maxima.
so i took the core i got from the dismantle place back to the dealership because they couldnt take the core charge off, and what happened? it was another Altima transmission off of a 2005 nissan maxima they said!!
this problem needs to be looked at, possible nissan is not saying anything because they would go bankrupt if this problem was recalled, with lawsuits, parts and labor worldwide.
ok.., i said i know i bought it at a used car dealership, but if someone put a altima tranny in it, dont you think it would last a bit longer than 80k? so your telling me this 05 maxima had the original tranny replaced around 40k? comon now!
so anyway, they said i needed a maxima tranny for the core to send it back to nissan dealership and they didnt want to take my altima core, so i went to a dismantle shop that took off parts of cars, and a company had a tranny core that came right off a 2005 maxima.
so i took the core i got from the dismantle place back to the dealership because they couldnt take the core charge off, and what happened? it was another Altima transmission off of a 2005 nissan maxima they said!!
this problem needs to be looked at, possible nissan is not saying anything because they would go bankrupt if this problem was recalled, with lawsuits, parts and labor worldwide.
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I have a 06 AT with 76000 KM on it and it shifts hard only if I go at a really slow speed or not giving enough throttles but if I give some good throttle it works perfect........for now I guess. But I like the manual tranny better its more reliable
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I'll just add that I just had my 5 SPD AT on my 06 SE replaced with a factory rebuilt at 61500 miles. Problem surfaced out of nowhere. I purchased at about 57000 miles and had no problems until it suddenly started shifting extremely hard one evening on my way home, by the next morning, it was toast.