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R2C Performance Products Intake
05-28-2010, 04:13 AM
#401
06-15-2010, 06:57 AM
#405
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Join Date: May 2010
Location: PAtchogue NY
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This week should be the week. Do you guys think as soon as it is avail it will be on their web site, or will this .org be the first to know? How many units (as a guess) are expected to be avail for such a new product? Will R2C run out by the time the list on the web site.
Thanks
Thanks
06-15-2010, 04:17 PM
#407
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: CT
Posts: 1,192
This week should be the week. Do you guys think as soon as it is avail it will be on their web site, or will this .org be the first to know? How many units (as a guess) are expected to be avail for such a new product? Will R2C run out by the time the list on the web site.
Thanks
Thanks
06-15-2010, 04:35 PM
#408
I heard back from Ed today, he's been on the road for several weeks supporting their race team. He promised to check with engineering and get back to me on the status of the 7th gen system. Please don't take this as encouraging or discouraging until we get some useful information.
Brian
Brian
06-15-2010, 06:19 PM
#409
I heard back from Ed today, he's been on the road for several weeks supporting their race team. He promised to check with engineering and get back to me on the status of the 7th gen system. Please don't take this as encouraging or discouraging until we get some useful information.
Brian
Brian
06-15-2010, 08:47 PM
#411
Short ram with heat shield.
Saw Ed today when they evaluated the Genesis coup... he said another 4 weeks... they are just waiting for everything to come in... tubes/hoses/etc. etc.
Just hold out a bit longer guys!
Saw Ed today when they evaluated the Genesis coup... he said another 4 weeks... they are just waiting for everything to come in... tubes/hoses/etc. etc.
Just hold out a bit longer guys!
06-16-2010, 01:44 PM
#412
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: CT
Posts: 1,192
The system is defiantly going to be worth the wait... I hope that they come out with it and don't change their mind again. This is going to be a great product. Thanx for the update.
06-16-2010, 09:11 PM
#414
R2C Performance Products introduces the highest level of performance and engine protection available to Nissan and Infiniti enthusiasts.The new, state-of-the-art, R2C Performance MaxxFlow Cold Air Intake System reduces inlet restriction by over 60% when compared to other aftermarket products. High strength, polymer construction provides the finest thermal barrier to ensure a cooler, more powerful intake air charge resulting in increased power and throttle response.The need to compromise flow and low restriction for engine protection is over! The proprietary and patent pending R2C PowerFlow Filter provides the lowest restriction levels over the entire life of the filter. HLVV media technology delivers unmatched engine protection and efficiency. The PowerFlow completely eliminates the reliance on poor performing oiled cotton gauze.
http://www.r2cperformance.com/cotton_gauze.html
http://www.r2cperformance.com/techni...vantages2.html
http://g35driver.com/forums/v36-engi...dyno-tune.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7O3_...eature=related
http://www.mustang50magazine.com/tec...tem/index.html
http://www.southerncarparts.com/cama...ke-p-3058.html
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1944078
http://myg37.com/forums/intake-and-e...xflow-cai.html
06-17-2010, 10:32 AM
#420
carlosrg... no idea of cost, but honestly, it will be one of the more expensive intakes available... but rightfully so. The amount of R&D these guys put into their products borders on obsessive. This will be the best intake you can get for the 7th Gen.
And as far as I know, no venturi-type element. It's not necessary. They design everything from scratch for optimum performance.
06-17-2010, 11:16 AM
#421
Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 46
I don't want to argue but the technology they have is in the filter not in the tube. If they have no venturi element that is going to be a loss, also it being made of metal with no temp coating will just heat soak the pipe and then heat up air temps. Higher intake air temps equal = less performance.
If they did everything properly engineered the the tube would be some kind of low head conductive material like plastic, or CF :-)
I need to see one of these products up close and I bet that if I took one of these intakes and then had a machine shop make me a venturi element we would see a gain.
Tho thinking about they may have implemented into the actual filter itself.
BTW I am expecting to see something like which is JWT Z kit.
Air intake gains are all about reducing restrictions, speeding up intake velocities, and air intake temp.
If they did everything properly engineered the the tube would be some kind of low head conductive material like plastic, or CF :-)
I need to see one of these products up close and I bet that if I took one of these intakes and then had a machine shop make me a venturi element we would see a gain.
Tho thinking about they may have implemented into the actual filter itself.
BTW I am expecting to see something like which is JWT Z kit.
Air intake gains are all about reducing restrictions, speeding up intake velocities, and air intake temp.
06-17-2010, 11:57 AM
#422
I don't want to argue but the technology they have is in the filter not in the tube. If they have no venturi element that is going to be a loss, also it being made of metal with no temp coating will just heat soak the pipe and then heat up air temps. Higher intake air temps equal = less performance.
If they did everything properly engineered the the tube would be some kind of low head conductive material like plastic, or CF :-)
I need to see one of these products up close and I bet that if I took one of these intakes and then had a machine shop make me a venturi element we would see a gain.
Tho thinking about they may have implemented into the actual filter itself.
BTW I am expecting to see something like which is JWT Z kit.
Air intake gains are all about reducing restrictions, speeding up intake velocities, and air intake temp.
If they did everything properly engineered the the tube would be some kind of low head conductive material like plastic, or CF :-)
I need to see one of these products up close and I bet that if I took one of these intakes and then had a machine shop make me a venturi element we would see a gain.
Tho thinking about they may have implemented into the actual filter itself.
BTW I am expecting to see something like which is JWT Z kit.
Air intake gains are all about reducing restrictions, speeding up intake velocities, and air intake temp.
If you take the time to read some of the links I provided you'll see where the temps dropped dramatically all measured using a scan gauge.
06-17-2010, 12:20 PM
#423
I don't want to argue but the technology they have is in the filter not in the tube. If they have no venturi element that is going to be a loss, also it being made of metal with no temp coating will just heat soak the pipe and then heat up air temps. Higher intake air temps equal = less performance.
If they did everything properly engineered the the tube would be some kind of low head conductive material like plastic, or CF :-)
I need to see one of these products up close and I bet that if I took one of these intakes and then had a machine shop make me a venturi element we would see a gain.
Tho thinking about they may have implemented into the actual filter itself.
BTW I am expecting to see something like which is JWT Z kit.
Air intake gains are all about reducing restrictions, speeding up intake velocities, and air intake temp.
If they did everything properly engineered the the tube would be some kind of low head conductive material like plastic, or CF :-)
I need to see one of these products up close and I bet that if I took one of these intakes and then had a machine shop make me a venturi element we would see a gain.
Tho thinking about they may have implemented into the actual filter itself.
BTW I am expecting to see something like which is JWT Z kit.
Air intake gains are all about reducing restrictions, speeding up intake velocities, and air intake temp.
You can get whatever intake you want, but don't doubt R2C's engineering... They go wayyyy over the top with their R&D.
06-17-2010, 05:53 PM
#425
Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 46
When I put my response I was talking to the fact that you said that it had no venturi element. I see now that response has been edited and that comment has been removed.
I am not sure why the attitude maybe it is the exhausted patience on having the product released or what have you regardless it is not appreciated.
I will admit that I saw a metal tube and thought not another WAI claiming to be a CAI intake with big promises and small results. I am not saying that is the case I am just was my initial thought.
I have seen is that they make a nice tube for some other applications and I do like that and hope to see it for our vehicle.
I will let the product speak for itself on delivery times, results, and etc.
I am not sure why the attitude maybe it is the exhausted patience on having the product released or what have you regardless it is not appreciated.
I will admit that I saw a metal tube and thought not another WAI claiming to be a CAI intake with big promises and small results. I am not saying that is the case I am just was my initial thought.
I have seen is that they make a nice tube for some other applications and I do like that and hope to see it for our vehicle.
I will let the product speak for itself on delivery times, results, and etc.
06-18-2010, 03:35 AM
#426
Hey, we were just reacting to your uninformed comments. Fact is, they DID do extensive R&D on what type of material to use for the pipe, whether it be their engineered plastic or metal and their results proved that in our application, the short distance and high velocity of air is not influenced by heat soak through the tube. The source air is important, of course, but thats where their heat shield comes into play. I have never seen such a snug fitting heat shield by any other manufacturer.
Bottom line is: please go do your research, you will be pleasantly surprised at caliber of R2C's products and the R&D that goes into every design.
Bottom line is: please go do your research, you will be pleasantly surprised at caliber of R2C's products and the R&D that goes into every design.
Last edited by ANNINO; 06-18-2010 at 03:42 AM.
06-18-2010, 08:21 AM
#427
Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 46
Annino I have lots of experience in high horse power applications, mostly forced induction, vs NA. But I have a bit of time on a dyno testing different filter elements that being either blitz, KN, Apexi, Generics knock offs, metal screens, without a venturi unit, with heat shields and with out, carbon fiber tubing versus metal tubing. Using data loggers, Air intake temp sensors and you name it. And I am talking about high horsepower applications 500-1500RWHP.
And I will make the comment that air intake temps, tubing size, tubing material, tubing shape, tubing length, velocity stack all make a difference and i will leave it at that.
Please keep in mind I am also a 7th gen Maxima owner and would like to the best possible product for our vehicle produced.
And I will make the comment that air intake temps, tubing size, tubing material, tubing shape, tubing length, velocity stack all make a difference and i will leave it at that.
Please keep in mind I am also a 7th gen Maxima owner and would like to the best possible product for our vehicle produced.
06-18-2010, 08:39 AM
#428
Interestingly, he (R2C) described experimenting to see if it was warranted to insulate the intake tube by putting a blow torch on the tube while in the car on the dyno - and it had no impact! This actually doesn't surprise me because I've always been skeptical about the degree of heat transfer that occurs while air passes through a relatively short tube at high velocity. Anyway, these results indicate that there's no practical advantage to insulating that tube (which ='s lower production costs).
I never once questioned your 'experience', my point was only that they know what they are doing and it will definitly be the best intake for us.
06-18-2010, 03:38 PM
#429
Annino I have lots of experience in high horse power applications, mostly forced induction, vs NA. But I have a bit of time on a dyno testing different filter elements that being either blitz, KN, Apexi, Generics knock offs, metal screens, without a venturi unit, with heat shields and with out, carbon fiber tubing versus metal tubing. Using data loggers, Air intake temp sensors and you name it. And I am talking about high horsepower applications 500-1500RWHP.
And I will make the comment that air intake temps, tubing size, tubing material, tubing shape, tubing length, velocity stack all make a difference and i will leave it at that.
Please keep in mind I am also a 7th gen Maxima owner and would like to the best possible product for our vehicle produced.
And I will make the comment that air intake temps, tubing size, tubing material, tubing shape, tubing length, velocity stack all make a difference and i will leave it at that.
Please keep in mind I am also a 7th gen Maxima owner and would like to the best possible product for our vehicle produced.
07-08-2010, 10:45 PM
#436
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: CT
Posts: 1,192
Last I talked to him I was told that since the have been busy with the race season Ed has not been keeping track and is going to check with his engineers to see how much longer. Just shot him another email to see if there was any update. I will let you all know once a reply email is sent back to me.
07-10-2010, 11:23 PM
#438
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07-12-2010, 04:07 PM
#439
My apologies for not being able to provide information on the R2C intake system project, but even though the folks at R2C are real nice and make a great product, it can be difficult to get information from them sometimes. I've asked about the status of this project a few times in emails, but the question wasn't acknowledged.
We know they don't necessary keep to their project timeline, too, but given the way our development projects can get stretched out (did I hear 7th gen catback...?), I can hardly be critical about that.
However, I had a chance to speak with Ed today, and he told me that the 7th gen system was in production now and completion should occur some time between the end of this month and mid-August.
Brian
We know they don't necessary keep to their project timeline, too, but given the way our development projects can get stretched out (did I hear 7th gen catback...?), I can hardly be critical about that.
However, I had a chance to speak with Ed today, and he told me that the 7th gen system was in production now and completion should occur some time between the end of this month and mid-August.
Brian
