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Old 10-21-2009, 09:26 AM
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Question Eibach lowering Springs: Do you need to change shocks and struts with them?

So I just got my Eibach lower springs and have check around several shops and they are quoting me prices from $250 to up to $600 to have them replaced. Time required is anywhere from 3-6 hours. This seems like a lot. Any thoughts from those of you who have switched them out already?

Also, one of the shops suggested to upgrade the shocks and struts to a Bilstein set or else risk an incorrect ride quality. Did any of you guys replace the shocks and struts when you added your new performance springs?
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Originally Posted by bmanbmv
So I just got my Eibach lower springs and have check around several shops and they are quoting me prices from $250 to up to $600 to have them replaced. Time required is anywhere from 3-6 hours. This seems like a lot. Any thoughts from those of you who have switched them out already?

Also, one of the shops suggested to upgrade the shocks and struts to a Bilstein set or else risk an incorrect ride quality. Did any of you guys replace the shocks and struts when you added your new performance springs?
Sounds like you got quotes very similar to me. My dealership ended up being the best price at $270. I kept my OEM struts, and don't plan on replacing them unless they blow out for some reason. Ride quality is awesome.
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Old 10-21-2009, 11:03 AM
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Thanks, Annino. I think that is what i am going to do as well (keep the OEM struts) since Bilstein does not even make replacement struts or shocks for our car yet.
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Originally Posted by bmanbmv
Thanks, Annino. I think that is what i am going to do as well (keep the OEM struts) since Bilstein does not even make replacement struts or shocks for our car yet.
No issues with my stock hardware after Eibach install. Like Annino says .. just change them if they blow. What are you gonna do with stock parts in sitting the garage anyway?
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I have 5K on my set up with the stock struts and Pro kit. Still rides better than stock IMO.
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Does that quote include parts and labor?
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Old 10-21-2009, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by kLAcK
Does that quote include parts and labor?
No, the lowest quote I got was $256 for labor only, I paid $244 a couple of weeks ago for the springs at streetsideauto.com (shipping included).
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Old 10-21-2009, 06:55 PM
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paid 200 for installation, and i have the oem shocks and struts and i have well over 4k miles on this setup , so far so good
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Old 10-22-2009, 10:30 AM
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Did everyone who replaced there springs also get the car realigned?
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Old 10-22-2009, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ANNINO
Sounds like you got quotes very similar to me. My dealership ended up being the best price at $270. I kept my OEM struts, and don't plan on replacing them unless they blow out for some reason. Ride quality is awesome.
Well, don't forget your suspensions are tuned differently. Don't know how that plays out with the new springs, but it could conceivably make a difference.

** Ignore that - my mistake. For some reason I was thinking you had picked up the Sport Package. Duh.

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Old 10-28-2009, 09:20 AM
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Question

I put eibach's on 3500 miles ago rides great. Corners better and the car looks better. The guys at eibach's said lowering springs, if designed properly disperse the weight of the car over a shorter distance just as well.
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Old 10-30-2009, 10:19 PM
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Did everyone who replaced there springs also get the car realigned?
You should get it re-aligned. I got the Firestone lifetime alignment which is totally worth it. They use Hunter equipment and you can go in whenever you want.
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Old 10-31-2009, 12:27 PM
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yup i get springs installed for 200 also....no more maybe less.....
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Old 10-31-2009, 02:51 PM
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I do them for less than $200.

I would definitely align after a spring installation.
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Old 11-09-2009, 03:41 PM
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For just install around $300 is a decent price. Get the alignment done afterwards. No need to replace struts...

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Old 02-17-2010, 12:04 PM
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So what's the verdict....if I didn't get the sport package I need to replace struts???
Also I have the "S" model I think, and it feels like it a freakin boat when I take off (the front end shoots for the sky...anyway does the lowering kit fix this cause if I'm going to be sea sick for as long as I have it...
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Old 02-17-2010, 12:36 PM
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Has anyone used this kit on a max with the sport package ? How much actual drop did you get, and how's ride quality ?
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Old 02-17-2010, 12:43 PM
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Ps I might be able to help those of you out who live around Boston ma , I have a close friend who works for tully BMW and he's aways worked on my car. Point being I'm sure he'd be willing to do some side work on the max's for much less then your all being quoted . Send me a message if intrested
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Do you have to roll the fenders with the eibach spring kit?
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Originally Posted by Antny74
Do you have to roll the fenders with the eibach spring kit?
no.
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Old 02-21-2010, 02:06 PM
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I know this is late but here goes. Not sure how close to stock numbers the Eibach springs are, but chances are you will stress out your stock shocks/struts much earlier than with stock springs (you may get 30k miles until that time). I would personally go all out and replace it all at once, which will probably save you an extra install cost when the stock shocks do go out.
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Old 02-21-2010, 02:09 PM
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^^ agree.
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Originally Posted by djfrestyl
^^ agree.
I don't agree, why toss your perfectly new shocks/struts before they expire? Makes no sense to me.
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Old 02-21-2010, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by MaxLoverAz
I don't agree, why toss your perfectly new shocks/struts before they expire? Makes no sense to me.
While that would sound senseless to most, the lifespan of those perfectly new shocks/struts are dramatically decreased and you will end up having to replace them in a year or two anyway and have to pay someone to install those as well (unless you are a DIYer). Besides, the stock setup is designed to work best with each other, not particularly with an aftermarket spring/stock shock setup. You will probably get a better feel and better performance if you update the shocks/struts to ones that match the spring setup.
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Originally Posted by TigerGenetics
While that would sound senseless to most, the lifespan of those perfectly new shocks/struts are dramatically decreased and you will end up having to replace them in a year or two anyway and have to pay someone to install those as well (unless you are a DIYer). Besides, the stock setup is designed to work best with each other, not particularly with an aftermarket spring/stock shock setup. You will probably get a better feel and better performance if you update the shocks/struts to ones that match the spring setup.
Reducing the travel 1.3" (Eibach Pro) isn't going to reduce the life span of the shocks/struts as much that you think it will. Now if you drop it much further than yes I agree the dynamics of the suspension will be changed enough to require shorter struts/shocks.

I'll wait to replace my struts/shocks when they warrant replacement, if they die earlier great, I can tell you this the car handles a lot better than stock.

Fact is I've yet to find any aftermarket struts/shock yet for this car.
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Old 02-21-2010, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by MaxLoverAz

Fact is I've yet to find any aftermarket struts/shock yet for this car.
That could present some problems too. But reading a little more on the Eibach springs (Pro Kit) they utilize a progressive spring rate that seems to help them be suited to factory or aftermarket shock/strut setups. Pretty cool stuff they have going on.
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Old 02-21-2010, 07:35 PM
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I rescind my prior comment (post #22). I forgot we were talking about the 7th gen in this thread. Eibach's *should* be fine.
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Old 02-22-2010, 10:56 AM
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Ok, so I have had my Eibach springs on now for 4 months. First off, the handling is light years ahead of the stock set-up. I am now able to take corners at 80mph were I could only take them at 55-60mph before. The suspension is very stiff during take-offs and the car does not loose engine force into the springs like the stock set-up ( I love this). The only problem that I have noticed is the ride-quailty going over bumps at higher speeds. It seems like there is a imbalance between the springs and shocks/struts because of the change in length when I added the Eibach pro kit. Most passengers in the car do not notice it, but I do. My install guys did the Eibach Pro kit for $200 and during that time he recommend to change out the shocks/struts also. He said it would only be about $30 more to change them at the same time, but $200 if I wanted to replace them later. I did look for shocks/struts for the car but have not found any yet? Has anyone seen any? I will be replacing them out sooner than later just for ride quality purposes!
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i was wondering if any guys that have lower your 7th gen max know the difference elbach pro kit and the sport kit and if any of you have installed the sport one instead
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I paid 240 for install of FTSB/RSB and Eibach Springs, not a bad deal at all, the first price I got quoted at another place was between 450-600.
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Originally Posted by ImSooFlyy23
i was wondering if any guys that have lower your 7th gen max know the difference elbach pro kit and the sport kit and if any of you have installed the sport one instead
According to their website, they don't make a sport kit for our car. The only item it lists for a 7th Gen Maxima is the Pro Kit
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Originally Posted by TigerGenetics
I know this is late but here goes. Not sure how close to stock numbers the Eibach springs are, but chances are you will stress out your stock shocks/struts much earlier than with stock springs (you may get 30k miles until that time). I would personally go all out and replace it all at once, which will probably save you an extra install cost when the stock shocks do go out.
How much with instillation are (eibach springs, shocks and struts). i have the premium package not the sport and want to do it all in one shot
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i paid 250 for the springs, 490 for the install and alignment, and i did not roll the fenders with 19" x10.5 RAYS. No rub even with two 270 pound guys in the back. the ride is just as good as factory with better response.
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Originally Posted by ZANEY
i paid 250 for the springs, 490 for the install and alignment, and i did not roll the fenders with 19" x10.5 RAYS. No rub even with two 270 pound guys in the back. the ride is just as good as factory with better response.

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yea i was going to post them but of course the iphone is dead. ill try to get some posted tomorrow for sure. i did so much research on this setup, but after it was all done it looks great and preforms well.
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Old 06-17-2012, 07:21 PM
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Anything more than $250 is a ripoff for a spring install.

If anyone is local to NJ (or is willing to make the drive) then contact me and I'd be happy to perform your spring install.
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^ agreed

I paid my boy $140 for eibach install and $130 for a 4 wheel alignment

Hey Zaney - FYI using the stock tires on the 10.5" Rays you WILL rub on the rear, give it time for the springs to settle and you'll see what we're talking about. right now your springs haven't settled yet, but when they do you will definitely want to roll the fenders or get thinner tires
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im running 245 40 19, not the stock 370 tires. has a bit of a stretch but it is the look i was going for. i just need to get some spacers for the front.
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Originally Posted by ZANEY
im running 245 40 19, not the stock 370 tires. has a bit of a stretch but it is the look i was going for. i just need to get some spacers for the front.
ohhhh ok you're fine. im running the same

i did 10mm spacers in front and im not sure but i kinda feel like i can come out another 5mm.. so do 10 to be safe, 15 may fit though
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Originally Posted by TigerGenetics
I know this is late but here goes. Not sure how close to stock numbers the Eibach springs are, but chances are you will stress out your stock shocks/struts much earlier than with stock springs (you may get 30k miles until that time). I would personally go all out and replace it all at once, which will probably save you an extra install cost when the stock shocks do go out.
my strut tower just blew out after 30,000 time to get custom struts!
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