The 8th generation Maxima...prototypes, news, updates, rumors and more
#1123
Unless there are noteworthy changes for the 2018 Maxima (enough changes that it will be considered to be the 8.5 gen), I see no reason it can't reach dealer lots on the normal same gen model year changeover time, which would be September.
Since Nissan decided a few years ago to extend the time period between generations of most of its vehicles, including the Maxima, we are still at least five or six years away from the 9th gen Maxima There are many logical reasons Nissan decided to extend the time between generations.
We will see a new generation of the Altima with major (probably even radical) styling updates a year or two before we see a new Maxima generation.
Always keep in mind that the Altima is Nissan's 'everymans' full-size sedan, and Nissan would like to sell at least 250,000 Altimas each model year. Nissan expects to sell only around 70,000 Maximas, which, as their flagship, is supposed to be more impressive, more 'exclusive' and more desirable than the Altima. Most of those here on this board who have driven both the Altima and the Maxima have expressed the opinion that the Maxima is the more desirable and 'fun to drive' vehicle.
Before the 9th gen Maxima arrives, there will be the usual doubters here who say Nissan will/should drop the Maxima. We have been hearing that for decades. Manufacturers do not drop their flagship vehicle lightly. I have owned nothing but Maximas since October of 1984, and expect to still be buying Maximas for at least two more decades, which will take me well past age 100.
Since Nissan decided a few years ago to extend the time period between generations of most of its vehicles, including the Maxima, we are still at least five or six years away from the 9th gen Maxima There are many logical reasons Nissan decided to extend the time between generations.
We will see a new generation of the Altima with major (probably even radical) styling updates a year or two before we see a new Maxima generation.
Always keep in mind that the Altima is Nissan's 'everymans' full-size sedan, and Nissan would like to sell at least 250,000 Altimas each model year. Nissan expects to sell only around 70,000 Maximas, which, as their flagship, is supposed to be more impressive, more 'exclusive' and more desirable than the Altima. Most of those here on this board who have driven both the Altima and the Maxima have expressed the opinion that the Maxima is the more desirable and 'fun to drive' vehicle.
Before the 9th gen Maxima arrives, there will be the usual doubters here who say Nissan will/should drop the Maxima. We have been hearing that for decades. Manufacturers do not drop their flagship vehicle lightly. I have owned nothing but Maximas since October of 1984, and expect to still be buying Maximas for at least two more decades, which will take me well past age 100.
Last edited by lightonthehill; 06-09-2017 at 12:56 AM.
#1125
Having had 4 Altima V6s, the Maxima blows them away.
My last one was a 2013, SL V6, and that car's handling was just all kinds of off. Where I live there are a lot of roundabouts, and it would lift up and out of every corner and you never quite knew where it was going to go with the steering inputs you gave it. It also had numerous quality control problems, like a hard mechanical shaking when under light throttle, screaming brakes when cold and in reverse, a door handle that fell apart after 3 years, and my personal favorite, a complete failure of the driver's side seat frame at the base.
The current gen Altimas are just so cheap - it's almost impossible to get Leather, the SR trim for example even in V6 is cloth. I don't know how they are going to keep selling them against the new Camry and Accord; I expect the 2019 to be a total redesign. The only thing those V6 Altimas have on a Max is a high stealth factor - almost no one lining up at a stop light in a lane that goes away after 500 feet knows how fast the V6 is. One glance at a Max and you know it has a more powerful engine.
The Max is still better handling, much higher grade interior finishes, more powerful (although not necessarily much faster than V6 Altima), and man they look great on the road.
My last one was a 2013, SL V6, and that car's handling was just all kinds of off. Where I live there are a lot of roundabouts, and it would lift up and out of every corner and you never quite knew where it was going to go with the steering inputs you gave it. It also had numerous quality control problems, like a hard mechanical shaking when under light throttle, screaming brakes when cold and in reverse, a door handle that fell apart after 3 years, and my personal favorite, a complete failure of the driver's side seat frame at the base.
The current gen Altimas are just so cheap - it's almost impossible to get Leather, the SR trim for example even in V6 is cloth. I don't know how they are going to keep selling them against the new Camry and Accord; I expect the 2019 to be a total redesign. The only thing those V6 Altimas have on a Max is a high stealth factor - almost no one lining up at a stop light in a lane that goes away after 500 feet knows how fast the V6 is. One glance at a Max and you know it has a more powerful engine.
The Max is still better handling, much higher grade interior finishes, more powerful (although not necessarily much faster than V6 Altima), and man they look great on the road.
#1127
It won't be a new model. Likely nothing significant will change for 2018. Maybe add android auto to the car. There won't probably be an announcement, the model number will just change from 2017 to 2018. If you are looking to buy Nissan is making some sweet deals on 2017s right now. I got an amazing deal on my lease.
#1129
Between Nissan and dealership incentives it was close to 6k off of sticker, they covered my last payment on my Altima and covered the wear and tear and turn in fees, as well as paying the first month on the Max. Overall it felt like a good deal - others may have done better.
#1131
Possible Updates and Rumors regarding 2018 Maxima...
- Integrated exhaust tips on the rear fascia.
- All trims except for SR will have foam in the tires.
- More items for sound deadening.
- Platinum is getting 19" wheels.
- Front appearance should be close to the new Altima which is based on the Vision 2.0 concept.
Also, rumor has it that they are still trying to decide if there will be a next generation after this one, but the good news is that IF there is another one, it will NOT be on a FWD chassis...
- Integrated exhaust tips on the rear fascia.
- All trims except for SR will have foam in the tires.
- More items for sound deadening.
- Platinum is getting 19" wheels.
- Front appearance should be close to the new Altima which is based on the Vision 2.0 concept.
Also, rumor has it that they are still trying to decide if there will be a next generation after this one, but the good news is that IF there is another one, it will NOT be on a FWD chassis...
#1135
Well I don't have my max yet, but the thing I already know I don't like is the cargo space. My old Azera has a whopping 16 cubic feet (above average)... the max seems tiny by comparison. My wife is a (car) hoarder, our trunk is always full of random junk no matter how hard I try :-/
#1137
If the 9th gen is a RWD platform it would be good if it was shared with the Q50 or equivalent. Infiniti dealers are often 2 to 3 hours away from Nissan Toyota dealerships in smaller towns. The distance makes Infiniti ownership impratical in many cases so potential buyers settle for a car they don't like just to get local service. Ford solved this problem some years ago as I remember a coworker took delivery on a new Lincoln and received service at the local Ford dealer. Remembering back to the days when the Max and I3x shared the same platform, it made parts availability better for both cars. Nissan should be thinking global with a Maxima sized vehicle platform for the EMEA and U.S. markets.
Anyone for a Maxima Estate Wagon?
Anyone for a Maxima Estate Wagon?
Last edited by CS_AR; 08-22-2017 at 07:50 PM.
#1140
So 2018 will be the 38th year in which we have had the Maxima? I doubt if Nissan will be celebrating the 38th year of the Maxima with anything special.
#1142
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Lets see; 1981 marked the release of gen 1. 1985 marked gen 2. 1989 marked gen3. 1995 marked gen 4. 2000 marked gen 5. 2004 marked gen 6. 2009 marked gen 7 and 2016 marked the release of gen 8.
So 2018 will be the 38th year in which we have had the Maxima? I doubt if Nissan will be celebrating the 38th year of the Maxima with anything special.
So 2018 will be the 38th year in which we have had the Maxima? I doubt if Nissan will be celebrating the 38th year of the Maxima with anything special.
Last edited by MONTE 01&97 SE; 08-30-2017 at 12:28 PM.
#1143
MONTE tellin it like it is. Always good to hear from MONTE, who KNOWS Maximas. Like MONTE, I do not expect to see any 'anniversary' Maxima from Nissan anytime soon. Possibly a fortieth with the 2021, but probably not, as the 9th gen could be arriving by around 2023. Whenever the 9th gen arrives, I will be in line waiting.
#1145
I've had no trouble with the driver's warning light. But sometimes, if I shift around on the passenger seat, it turns off the passenger seat bag for as long as a half hour at a time. And yes, I do weigh enough that the bag should always be on.
#1146
2019 Maxima
I understand Nissan will reveal the 2019 Altima at the NY Auto Show in a few weeks (March 28th), with plenty of articles on the Internet about what to expect. Anyone here heard anything yet about what the 2019 version of the Maxima might offer in the 4th year of the 8th generation? Considering the '18 Maxima wasn't announced until late October '17, I'm guessing it'll be many months before we see any articles on the Internet about. But perhaps some of you have read or heard otherwise?
Last edited by sschumer; 03-04-2018 at 01:49 PM.
#1147
There is a radically redesigned Altima coming, but I don't know if it will arrive with the '19 model year. If in fact '19 is to be the release year, there will be massive advertising, as the redesigned Altima I have been seeing in various 'spy' snippets is stylistically totally unlike anything Nissan has ever produced. This redesign is so significant that it will have to be a new generation.
#1148
Doesn't look good for Maxima
That would be a shame if the Altima outclasses the Max, if the concept car pictures are to be believed it will have the more futuristic design. Can't imagine the Max will be updated again so soon. The pictures of the Altima that I have seen seem to abandon the "family hauler" purpose of the Altima all together
I got a bad feeling Nissan is finally gong to pull the plug on the Maxima, and move the Altima more upscale to take its place. Most family's are moving to SUVs now, so I wouldn't be surprised if Nissan consolidates it's product line to include only one sedan. Of course they would stick with their best seller.
Hyundai killed the Azera in America, I doubt the Avalon has much life left in it. Toyota and Honda are still offering v6 in a few models, but note these are both smaller cars than the Maxima. I never got into the whole station wagon, minivan, SUV thing, so these developments are disturbing
I got a bad feeling Nissan is finally gong to pull the plug on the Maxima, and move the Altima more upscale to take its place. Most family's are moving to SUVs now, so I wouldn't be surprised if Nissan consolidates it's product line to include only one sedan. Of course they would stick with their best seller.
Hyundai killed the Azera in America, I doubt the Avalon has much life left in it. Toyota and Honda are still offering v6 in a few models, but note these are both smaller cars than the Maxima. I never got into the whole station wagon, minivan, SUV thing, so these developments are disturbing
#1149
fishlet has now posted the things that have been going through my mind for over a year. This new Altima design may be a gamechanger - very futuristic. As soon as I saw the spy photos, my heart sank. Many will say it leaves the Maxima styling behind. I personally feel it may be too futuristic. Gen 9 of the Maxima will not be out before '22 or '23. I will buy Maximas as long as they are available. I have no interest in an Altima.
The iconic name of the Maxima may save it. Rumors of its demise have been around going back to the late 1990s. My wife and I received a boost of renewed hope this past Friday when we encountered six 8th gen Maximas in a thirty minute ride around town. We have never had that happen before. She is quicker at spotting them than I am, because I am always looking at the road and the cars whooshing in all directions all around me.
The iconic name of the Maxima may save it. Rumors of its demise have been around going back to the late 1990s. My wife and I received a boost of renewed hope this past Friday when we encountered six 8th gen Maximas in a thirty minute ride around town. We have never had that happen before. She is quicker at spotting them than I am, because I am always looking at the road and the cars whooshing in all directions all around me.
#1150
We'll know soon enough about the '19 Altima, but from what I've read and seen, best guess is it'll look like the photo in the 1st link, not the 2nd. And if so, Maxima still looks a whole lot better.
https://www.slashgear.com/2019-nissa...-nyc-14519480/
http://www.autoverdict.com/nissan/re...ng-next-month/
https://www.slashgear.com/2019-nissa...-nyc-14519480/
http://www.autoverdict.com/nissan/re...ng-next-month/
#1151
lightonthehill, interesting you say "Gen 9 of the Maxima will not be out before '22 or '23." That would make the 8th generation 6-7 years ('16 to '21/'22), a bit longer than history (as follows) would suggest. But you may very well be right. Any specific reason(s) why you think it'll be 6-7 years?
1st generation: 4 years ('81-'84)
2nd generation: 4 years ('85-'88)
3rd generation: 6 years ('89-'94)
4th generation: 5 years ('95-'99)
5th generation: 4 years ('00-'03)
6th generation: 5 years ('04-'08)
7th generation: 6 years ('09-'14)
1st generation: 4 years ('81-'84)
2nd generation: 4 years ('85-'88)
3rd generation: 6 years ('89-'94)
4th generation: 5 years ('95-'99)
5th generation: 4 years ('00-'03)
6th generation: 5 years ('04-'08)
7th generation: 6 years ('09-'14)
#1152
I read something about an 8 speed auto tranny a couple weeks ago for the 2019.
I'm curious; my lease expires in October and Mazda 6 is coming out with a 2.5 turbo for their higher end models...for me this is something I'd leave the maxima for because of the drive quality and handling of the 6 but now it has some power to boot...
I'm curious; my lease expires in October and Mazda 6 is coming out with a 2.5 turbo for their higher end models...for me this is something I'd leave the maxima for because of the drive quality and handling of the 6 but now it has some power to boot...
#1155
Hmmm. I like a lot the Kia Stinger GT (V6 rear wheel drive) with a lot of tech (HUD, blind point assistant, etc) features and more engine power, brake brembo system, folding mirrors, electrical front seats, cool/calefactable rear seats, electronic suspension, 7 years of warranty, than the 2018 Maxima SR....of course 32-33% more expensive too. In my case, the Kia dealer is 70 miles far from my house and Nissan dealer is around the corner so to speak, and the costumer service has been unbeatable....
I'm very happy with my 2016 Maxima SR, the rattles have settle down by itselves. No other problem. But, it has depreciated around 40%, according to the sales manager when I ask for a cuote for a 2018 Maxima SR price.....annoying....
I'm very happy with my 2016 Maxima SR, the rattles have settle down by itselves. No other problem. But, it has depreciated around 40%, according to the sales manager when I ask for a cuote for a 2018 Maxima SR price.....annoying....
Last edited by dochidalgo; 03-05-2018 at 09:04 AM.
#1157
lets face it.....
The resale market for sedans in general I think has plummeted, Maxima included. I'm not too happy about it, but there really isn't anything else that fits me needs and still is fun and sporty to drive for the money.
The resale market for sedans in general I think has plummeted, Maxima included. I'm not too happy about it, but there really isn't anything else that fits me needs and still is fun and sporty to drive for the money.
#1159
Possible rumors and more about the 2019 Maxima
Same ol' drivetrain.
Some minor material and color changes to the interior, and it looks like they added more sound deadening for a quieter ride.
Tires on the S, SL & SV trims will now have foam in them. Looks like they changed the wheel design for these trim levels too. SR wheel to remain the same, and probably no foam. Platinum trim now gets a 19" wheel with a similar design to the current SR wheel, and gets foam in the tires.
Small changes in the front facia. The "V" is approximately the same size as previous years but a little thinner on the top portion. As a result, the grill where the hamburger is located had to be pushed outward a little to fill that space. Different fog lights, and lower opening is sharper/more square. Headlight shape appears to be the same, but the internals have been revamped.
Back of the car has small changes too. Same tailight shape, but the tailight internals have been revamped. The exhaust tips are no longer attached to the muffler, but integrated into the bumper cover in a quad setup.
Same ol' drivetrain.
Some minor material and color changes to the interior, and it looks like they added more sound deadening for a quieter ride.
Tires on the S, SL & SV trims will now have foam in them. Looks like they changed the wheel design for these trim levels too. SR wheel to remain the same, and probably no foam. Platinum trim now gets a 19" wheel with a similar design to the current SR wheel, and gets foam in the tires.
Small changes in the front facia. The "V" is approximately the same size as previous years but a little thinner on the top portion. As a result, the grill where the hamburger is located had to be pushed outward a little to fill that space. Different fog lights, and lower opening is sharper/more square. Headlight shape appears to be the same, but the internals have been revamped.
Back of the car has small changes too. Same tailight shape, but the tailight internals have been revamped. The exhaust tips are no longer attached to the muffler, but integrated into the bumper cover in a quad setup.
#1160