2019's are rolling in.....
12-19-2018, 04:16 PM
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The 2019 Altima no longer offers the 3.5 L V6, they changed to 2.5 Turbo.
12-19-2018, 04:45 PM
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As lionel2013 stated in an earlier post, you can't get more than 248 hp in a 2019 Altima (300 hp for Maxima), though a slight advantage in torque at 273 ft-lbs (261 ft-lbs in Maxima). Best engine in an Altima is only a brand new 2.0L VC Turbo I-4 verses the tried/true 3.5L VQ V6. Driving dynamics it's no contest.
12-19-2018, 04:56 PM
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I wasn't a fan of the nose at first, but now I really like it. Looks like the kind of squared the face a bit, while dropping the "V" to extend down more. Fog light cutouts aren't bad and the chrome lip is a nice touch!
Still coming around a bit on the rear end.....
I currently have a Platinum 16 pearl with blonde leather. Would like to see a 19 in same color scheme, or even with the racuda color interior (orange)
Still coming around a bit on the rear end.....
I currently have a Platinum 16 pearl with blonde leather. Would like to see a 19 in same color scheme, or even with the racuda color interior (orange)
12-20-2018, 08:25 AM
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<<I'm around these cars every day and I see absolutely no similarities to the Altima aside from the floating roof.>>
Google "2019 Nissan Altima" and I think you will see what I mean.
2019, not 2018.
On a related note, have you guys seen the 2019 Avalons? Butt-ugly, IMHO. When it comes to design they went from ultra-conservative/glorified Camry look, to ... very different but uninspired.
Google "2019 Nissan Altima" and I think you will see what I mean.
2019, not 2018.
On a related note, have you guys seen the 2019 Avalons? Butt-ugly, IMHO. When it comes to design they went from ultra-conservative/glorified Camry look, to ... very different but uninspired.
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12-20-2018, 08:44 AM
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12-20-2018, 10:19 AM
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Fishlet, that new orange color (Sunset Drift) was added for the '19s, so now 7 exterior colors versus the 6 offered in '18. I saw it on my dealer's showroom floor on a '19 Altima. I think it's a pretty nice color. Sporty, maybe slightly "loud." Those photos above capture it well, kind of a dark orange. But even if it had been offered on the '18s, I'd have stuck with my first choice of Carnelian Red.
12-20-2018, 11:06 AM
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12-20-2018, 01:40 PM
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looks pretty good... need to see in person, had my max for 3 years now. dont know what im gonna get next year... stinger gt2 deals are super tempting right now though...
unfortunately i live in hawaii so generally the cars come in 3-4 months after everyone else. the 2019 altimas only came in last week. test drove a plat yesterday
unfortunately i live in hawaii so generally the cars come in 3-4 months after everyone else. the 2019 altimas only came in last week. test drove a plat yesterday
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12-20-2018, 03:45 PM
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12-20-2018, 04:25 PM
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I was looking at a 2.5 L Altima a couple days ago...it was 35 FKN thousand dollars!! Not in this lifetime....that is not even the "Premium motor" They are not that far apart in Price....and if you factor in all of the incentives that are usually on the Max.......it is cheaper. And you can not even compare the interiors.....the altima sucks
12-20-2018, 04:46 PM
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However .... Let us not smack down the Altimas, they are a serious competitor to the Max. So serious I think at some point Nissan will have to make a decision on which model to keep. I haven't driven any recent Altima, but for years and years I had an 05 Maxima, while wifey had an 05 Altima, leather, fully loaded, V6, same engine. I have to tell you, although the 05 Max looked sexier than the 05 Altima, driving the latter was very, very satisfying and comfortable, and perhaps a bit peppier since it is a smaller car than the 05 Max. Whenever I had to drive it, I enjoyed the experience, it was a very fun car to drive. But built with the same subpar OEM parts, dear ex wifey had to get rid of it at 136k miles for too much money in repairs, just like I sadly had to say goodbye to my beloved 05 Max for the same reasons, at about the same mileage. Not the engine or the tranny, just miscellaneous, obscure stuff that added up to a lot, - think thousands of dollars a year. With that perspective and having owned 4 (four) Camry's in the past (89, 97, 2000, 2016), I think that is what Nissan has to overcome in order to overtake Toyota: build quality. Because when it comes to driving pleasure an comfort, Nissan beats Toyota to a pulp.
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12-20-2018, 05:10 PM
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Yyyyyep. My point exactly. But dollar for dollar I'm still gonna buy a Maxima, especially since the Altimas no longer come with a V6.
However .... Let us not smack down the Altimas, they are a serious competitor to the Max. So serious I think at some point Nissan will have to make a decision on which model to keep. I haven't driven any recent Altima, but for years and years I had an 05 Maxima, while wifey had an 05 Altima, leather, fully loaded, V6, same engine. I have to tell you, although the 05 Max looked sexier than the 05 Altima, driving the latter was very, very satisfying and comfortable, and perhaps a bit peppier since it is a smaller car than the 05 Max. Whenever I had to drive it, I enjoyed the experience, it was a very fun car to drive. But built with the same subpar OEM parts, dear ex wifey had to get rid of it at 136k miles for too much money in repairs, just like I sadly had to say goodbye to my beloved 05 Max for the same reasons, at about the same mileage. Not the engine or the tranny, just miscellaneous, obscure stuff that added up to a lot, - think thousands of dollars a year. With that perspective and having owned 4 (four) Camry's in the past (89, 97, 2000, 2016), I think that is what Nissan has to overcome in order to overtake Toyota: build quality. Because when it comes to driving pleasure an comfort, Nissan beats Toyota to a pulp.
However .... Let us not smack down the Altimas, they are a serious competitor to the Max. So serious I think at some point Nissan will have to make a decision on which model to keep. I haven't driven any recent Altima, but for years and years I had an 05 Maxima, while wifey had an 05 Altima, leather, fully loaded, V6, same engine. I have to tell you, although the 05 Max looked sexier than the 05 Altima, driving the latter was very, very satisfying and comfortable, and perhaps a bit peppier since it is a smaller car than the 05 Max. Whenever I had to drive it, I enjoyed the experience, it was a very fun car to drive. But built with the same subpar OEM parts, dear ex wifey had to get rid of it at 136k miles for too much money in repairs, just like I sadly had to say goodbye to my beloved 05 Max for the same reasons, at about the same mileage. Not the engine or the tranny, just miscellaneous, obscure stuff that added up to a lot, - think thousands of dollars a year. With that perspective and having owned 4 (four) Camry's in the past (89, 97, 2000, 2016), I think that is what Nissan has to overcome in order to overtake Toyota: build quality. Because when it comes to driving pleasure an comfort, Nissan beats Toyota to a pulp.
12-20-2018, 05:17 PM
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12-20-2018, 05:34 PM
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Now that is a sweet ride. Normally I do not like the orange metallic but on your Max that looks terrific. A word of caution. Your rims are sticking right out there at the edge of your tires (all of our stock Max's do). Notice you do not have much tire overlap of the rims. For this reason be VERY cautious around curbs or you will certainly get ugly curb rash even if you are being careful. If you have cash left over, and you plan to keep the car awhile you might want to consider a clear bra applique like 3M to protect that beautiful front end, headlights, hood, and outside mirror housings from road rash. Nissan paint chips quite easily but my 3M has been a godsend in this department.
12-20-2018, 05:36 PM
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12-20-2018, 05:48 PM
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<<I'm around these cars every day and I see absolutely no similarities to the Altima aside from the floating roof.>>
Google "2019 Nissan Altima" and I think you will see what I mean.
2019, not 2018.
On a related note, have you guys seen the 2019 Avalons? Butt-ugly, IMHO. When it comes to design they went from ultra-conservative/glorified Camry look, to ... very different but uninspired.
Google "2019 Nissan Altima" and I think you will see what I mean.
2019, not 2018.
On a related note, have you guys seen the 2019 Avalons? Butt-ugly, IMHO. When it comes to design they went from ultra-conservative/glorified Camry look, to ... very different but uninspired.
12-20-2018, 06:21 PM
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I just discovered that the 2019 Altima just comes with the 4-banger, although that is a spunky little engine. No V6 option, so bummer for those who want the extra power for their Altima.
12-20-2018, 06:42 PM
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I would not dismiss the 2.5t just yet. To get max performance though it does require premium gas. Kinda cool how Nissan tuned it for both regular and premium.
12-20-2018, 06:54 PM
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The 2.0t has more torque than our Max's! Would never own a turbo 4 though, as long as I can get a 6 that is good as the ones we have. And that extra link between the connecting rod and crank shaft (to get the dual-compression) has yet to be tested. Would kinda bother me as far as longevity goes, esp. hooked up to an over-coked turbo.
12-21-2018, 01:36 AM
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Yyyyyep. My point exactly. But dollar for dollar I'm still gonna buy a Maxima, especially since the Altimas no longer come with a V6.
However .... Let us not smack down the Altimas, they are a serious competitor to the Max. So serious I think at some point Nissan will have to make a decision on which model to keep. I haven't driven any recent Altima, but for years and years I had an 05 Maxima, while wifey had an 05 Altima, leather, fully loaded, V6, same engine. I have to tell you, although the 05 Max looked sexier than the 05 Altima, driving the latter was very, very satisfying and comfortable, and perhaps a bit peppier since it is a smaller car than the 05 Max. Whenever I had to drive it, I enjoyed the experience, it was a very fun car to drive. But built with the same subpar OEM parts, dear ex wifey had to get rid of it at 136k miles for too much money in repairs, just like I sadly had to say goodbye to my beloved 05 Max for the same reasons, at about the same mileage. Not the engine or the tranny, just miscellaneous, obscure stuff that added up to a lot, - think thousands of dollars a year. With that perspective and having owned 4 (four) Camry's in the past (89, 97, 2000, 2016), I think that is what Nissan has to overcome in order to overtake Toyota: build quality. Because when it comes to driving pleasure an comfort, Nissan beats Toyota to a pulp.
However .... Let us not smack down the Altimas, they are a serious competitor to the Max. So serious I think at some point Nissan will have to make a decision on which model to keep. I haven't driven any recent Altima, but for years and years I had an 05 Maxima, while wifey had an 05 Altima, leather, fully loaded, V6, same engine. I have to tell you, although the 05 Max looked sexier than the 05 Altima, driving the latter was very, very satisfying and comfortable, and perhaps a bit peppier since it is a smaller car than the 05 Max. Whenever I had to drive it, I enjoyed the experience, it was a very fun car to drive. But built with the same subpar OEM parts, dear ex wifey had to get rid of it at 136k miles for too much money in repairs, just like I sadly had to say goodbye to my beloved 05 Max for the same reasons, at about the same mileage. Not the engine or the tranny, just miscellaneous, obscure stuff that added up to a lot, - think thousands of dollars a year. With that perspective and having owned 4 (four) Camry's in the past (89, 97, 2000, 2016), I think that is what Nissan has to overcome in order to overtake Toyota: build quality. Because when it comes to driving pleasure an comfort, Nissan beats Toyota to a pulp.
I can agree with much of what you are saying, but Nissan has no decision to make. The Altima and the Maxima are not only aimed at totally different markets, but the Maxima is a step or two above the Altima in mage, desirability, interior, styling, and standard accessories. And the fact Nissan sells more Altimas than Maximas is exactly per Nissan's intentions. Carlos Ghosn made things very clear back in November 2002 when he said the Altima would be Nissan's affordable 'Everyman's' car, with sales hopefully around 300,000 units, while the Maxima would be taken upscale and be Nissan's flagship vehicle, with sales targeted around 70,000 units. And that is what has happened.
If we wish to compare the Altima with other vehicles, that should be done by comparing it against the vehicles automotive magazines and automotive testers do - cars such as the Accord and Camry.
It is to be expected that there will be those here who understandably question what I am saying, I can only encourage those folks to please remember these discussions when the 9th generation Maxima arrives. I don't think that vehicle will be mistaken for an Altima. I base that logic not only on the word we have received from Nissan folks, but on the reality that, with sedans disappearing from the scene, it truly would not be in Nissan's best interest to produce a ninth gen Maxima unless it was distinctively different from the Altima in both styling and content.
12-21-2018, 03:30 AM
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2019 2.0 Altima vs 2002 3.5 SE
2002 Nissan Altima Program #2105 | MotorWeek
2019 Nissan Altima | MotorWeek
12-21-2018, 06:08 AM
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I can agree with much of what you are saying, but Nissan has no decision to make. The Altima and the Maxima are not only aimed at totally different markets, but the Maxima is a step or two above the Altima in mage, desirability, interior, styling, and standard accessories. And the fact Nissan sells more Altimas than Maximas is exactly per Nissan's intentions. Carlos Ghosn made things very clear back in November 2002 when he said the Altima would be Nissan's affordable 'Everyman's' car, with sales hopefully around 300,000 units, while the Maxima would be taken upscale and be Nissan's flagship vehicle, with sales targeted around 70,000 units. And that is what has happened.
If we wish to compare the Altima with other vehicles, that should be done by comparing it against the vehicles automotive magazines and automotive testers do - cars such as the Accord and Camry.
It is to be expected that there will be those here who understandably question what I am saying, I can only encourage those folks to please remember these discussions when the 9th generation Maxima arrives. I don't think that vehicle will be mistaken for an Altima. I base that logic not only on the word we have received from Nissan folks, but on the reality that, with sedans disappearing from the scene, it truly would not be in Nissan's best interest to produce a ninth gen Maxima unless it was distinctively different from the Altima in both styling and content.
If we wish to compare the Altima with other vehicles, that should be done by comparing it against the vehicles automotive magazines and automotive testers do - cars such as the Accord and Camry.
It is to be expected that there will be those here who understandably question what I am saying, I can only encourage those folks to please remember these discussions when the 9th generation Maxima arrives. I don't think that vehicle will be mistaken for an Altima. I base that logic not only on the word we have received from Nissan folks, but on the reality that, with sedans disappearing from the scene, it truly would not be in Nissan's best interest to produce a ninth gen Maxima unless it was distinctively different from the Altima in both styling and content.
12-21-2018, 08:19 AM
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Light,
interesting to see your comment regarding Nissans sales goals for the Maxima being about 70k a year. if that is the case, it looks like it came pretty close to meeting their expectations with the 8th gen*, much more so than the previous 2 models.
* I posted the link before, but don't have it handy now.
interesting to see your comment regarding Nissans sales goals for the Maxima being about 70k a year. if that is the case, it looks like it came pretty close to meeting their expectations with the 8th gen*, much more so than the previous 2 models.
* I posted the link before, but don't have it handy now.
12-21-2018, 09:31 AM
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I had an 19 Altima this week as a loaner, while my 16 Max was having some work done. I drove it for most of a day. I had an AWD SL, NA 2.5, that had an MSRP of $32K+.
I was very impressed, mostly with the refined, quiet ride. It should fair well in the Accord/Camry market, but it will never, under any circumstance, be a competitor for the Max. Nothing about the interior, equipment, aesthetics or driving experience is remotely as satisfying as my 52K mile Maxima.
Another deal killer, for me, is the stupid iPad type infotainment center screen. It really feels like they forgot to design it in to the car, then came back and bolted a laptop on to the top of the dash. And I would feel the same if it was in a Lexus, BMW or Cadillac.
I was very impressed, mostly with the refined, quiet ride. It should fair well in the Accord/Camry market, but it will never, under any circumstance, be a competitor for the Max. Nothing about the interior, equipment, aesthetics or driving experience is remotely as satisfying as my 52K mile Maxima.
Another deal killer, for me, is the stupid iPad type infotainment center screen. It really feels like they forgot to design it in to the car, then came back and bolted a laptop on to the top of the dash. And I would feel the same if it was in a Lexus, BMW or Cadillac.