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Fishlet 02-03-2019 03:22 PM
Beaten by a g80? What the (beep!)
 
Was watching the youtubes and saw this...


Is this for real? I know there's a 5.0 liter and turbo variant... but the Max should have easily beat this one.

wild willy 02-03-2019 03:52 PM
looks like the extra 11HP of the G80 Paid off

compyelc4 02-03-2019 04:30 PM
11HP? How much torque is that? It's torgue what gonna make the diff in acceleration. ;-0

wild willy 02-03-2019 05:06 PM
Originally Posted by compyelc4 (Post 9194375)
11HP? How much torque is that? It's torgue what gonna make the diff in acceleration. ;-0
293 ft/lbs

compyelc4 02-03-2019 07:03 PM
Originally Posted by wild willy (Post 9194378)
293 ft/lbs
There's the big difference then, right there! Of course, all other factors being equal, which they might not be: driver launch reflex, tire slippage, track condition,etc.

Mason Hatcher 02-03-2019 07:13 PM
It is lb-ft.

FattiesGoneWild 02-03-2019 10:01 PM
All things considering. The Maxima put up a decent fight despite less torque. I wish they would do the new Toyota Camry V6 vs the Maxima. Really curious how the Maxima would do.

Avalon beats the G80?

Yet a Maxima vs Avalon the Maxima wins in their video.

wild willy 02-04-2019 04:31 AM
Originally Posted by Mason Hatcher (Post 9194382)
It is lb-ft.
:) Thank you....Was just torquing the wheels on my sons Cooper earlier.,,,...lolo

MadMax07SL 02-04-2019 06:37 AM
RWD on the G80 also. That could account for a stronger takeoff...

compyelc4 02-04-2019 07:27 AM
Originally Posted by Mason Hatcher (Post 9194382)
It is lb-ft.
Yep.

Fishlet 02-04-2019 11:08 AM
Supposedly the Max is faster, see these comparisons...

http://autotk.com/0-60-times/genesis/g80/

http://autotk.com/0-60-times/nissan/maxima/

I've seen similar numbers on Car & Driver, although you have to read around a bit to get the stats for the 3.8.
Supposedly the video is comparing equal models, but I dunno bout that

compyelc4 02-04-2019 11:30 AM
Very good reads. Thanks for posting these.

robtroxel 02-04-2019 01:18 PM
Originally Posted by MadMax07SL (Post 9194402)
RWD on the G80 also. That could account for a stronger takeoff...
I would think a front drive car should have some drivetrain efficiencys due to the short length of the front drive shafts vs a rear drive which has right angle down a long drive shaft for the engine power to work thru. If anything I often wish for more traction from a standing start on the Max

lionel2013 02-04-2019 04:25 PM
Originally Posted by FattiesGoneWild (Post 9194391)
All things considering. The Maxima put up a decent fight despite less torque. I wish they would do the new Toyota Camry V6 vs the Maxima. Really curious how the Maxima would do.

Avalon beats the G80? https://youtu.be/qOm7Opi1Qkk

Yet a Maxima vs Avalon the Maxima wins in their video.

https://youtu.be/qbdVm4y34NQ
The Avalon in this video has 268 HP, the Maxima 300. Makes sense. A 2019 Maxima vs 2019 Avalon comparison would make much more sense, HP almost the same (+1 for the Avalon).

FattiesGoneWild 02-04-2019 05:03 PM
Originally Posted by lionel2013 (Post 9194429)
The Avalon in this video has 268 HP, the Maxima 300. Makes sense. A 2019 Maxima vs 2019 Avalon comparison would make much more sense, HP almost the same (+1 for the Avalon).
Excellent point! Totally for got that was the older Avalon and not the newer one with more hp.

FLGulf 02-04-2019 05:17 PM
Originally Posted by robtroxel (Post 9194424)
I would think a front drive car should have some drivetrain efficiencys due to the short length of the front drive shafts vs a rear drive which has right angle down a long drive shaft for the engine power to work thru. If anything I often wish for more traction from a standing start on the Max
As a car (or anything) accelerates, the weight is shifted back. Think about how you're pushed back in the seat. In a RWD car there's a huge advantage to having that weight-shift load the rear tires. This why drag cars are always RWD.

compyelc4 02-04-2019 08:02 PM
Originally Posted by FLGulf (Post 9194432)
As a car (or anything) accelerates, the weight is shifted back. Think about how you're pushed back in the seat. In a RWD car there's a huge advantage to having that weight-shift load the rear tires. This why drag cars are always RWD.
But in a race in Reverse, the Max. should win, right? :-)

wild willy 02-05-2019 03:51 AM
Originally Posted by FLGulf (Post 9194432)
As a car (or anything) accelerates, the weight is shifted back. Think about how you're pushed back in the seat. In a RWD car there's a huge advantage to having that weight-shift load the rear tires. This why drag cars are always RWD.

All that goes out the window if you race in the snow..... :)

Fishlet 02-05-2019 08:40 AM
Originally Posted by compyelc4 (Post 9194440)
But in a race in Reverse, the Max. should win, right? :-)
id love to see someone try that. With the rear view camera, it ought to be a breeze right?

compyelc4 02-05-2019 09:26 AM
Originally Posted by Fishlet (Post 9194460)


id love to see someone try that. With the rear view camera, it ought to be a breeze right?

Hear 'ya go, rear cameras or not.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...7C60&FORM=VIRE

dmc79 02-05-2019 05:16 PM
One major thing to note here, the Max in the video against the G80 is a different car than the one against the Avalon, and different cars may have some variability in performance. Since these three cars are so close in acceleration in general, that alone could be enough to explain why the G80 lost (or basically tied) the Avalon, but the Maxima easily beat the Avalon and lost to the G80.

slava 02-05-2019 06:12 PM
The Maxima should not be losing to a base G80 under any circumstances. The G80 is a MUCH heavier car and the 0-60's are not that close.

240tomax 02-05-2019 06:53 PM
No!!!...that's why I bought my Maxima, to race against other cars...what do I do now?

FattiesGoneWild 02-05-2019 09:53 PM
Originally Posted by 240tomax (Post 9194488)
No!!!...that's why I bought my Maxima, to race against other cars...what do I do now?
Well you did buy a 4DSC per Nissan. Right?!?!? :D

compyelc4 02-06-2019 06:39 AM
Originally Posted by 240tomax (Post 9194488)
No!!!...that's why I bought my Maxima, to race against other cars...what do I do now?
Stoplight race police cars. I guarantee you they will be following your tail lights the whole way. ;-)

04BlackMaxx 02-08-2019 04:46 AM
Originally Posted by Fishlet (Post 9194372)
Was watching the youtubes and saw this...

https://youtu.be/qghP1m5eemw

Is this for real? I know there's a 5.0 liter and turbo variant... but the Max should have easily beat this one.
Slow versus slower, woooooooo wooooooooo

compyelc4 02-08-2019 06:08 AM
Originally Posted by 04BlackMaxx (Post 9194652)
Slow versus slower, woooooooo wooooooooo
The guy in the G80 probably won by as little as he did, in part because the bill of his cap was reversed. Less resistance=more streamlined. This is a very old drag racing trick. :-)

wild willy 02-16-2019 05:21 AM
https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...hat-to-expect/


This looks like interesting competition......

guitarman 02-16-2019 06:48 AM
Originally Posted by wild willy (Post 9195395)
https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...hat-to-expect/


This looks like interesting competition......
What a TRD! :rollsmile

robtroxel 02-16-2019 06:58 AM
Originally Posted by guitarman (Post 9195397)
What a TRD! :rollsmile
I have to say it is just too easy to mentally superimpose a "U" into the mix. TRD=TURD racing. A friend of mine recently bought at TURD...err..TRD Toyota Pickup truck and after about 3 weeks of ribbing, he had the TRD stickers removed. What was Toyota thinking?

wild willy 02-16-2019 07:53 AM
Lol.....


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