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!PrjctMax! 12-10-2006 06:42 PM

For those with SS lines
 
I bought a set of brand new SS lines for a 6th gen Max, and when I received the package I didn't exactly know what these valve looking things were...can someone please en-lighten me?

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...s/DSC02070.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...s/DSC02069.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i1...s/DSC02068.jpg

Also, in what way should I bleed my brakes: RR-RL-FR-FL or RR-FL-RL-FR? I've heard both ways from 2 different people. The one that I am familiar with is the first one, but a fellow orger told me that the "criss-cross" method is needed for the 6th gen Max.

Finally, has anyone experienced any problems with SS lines, such as deforming, rubbing on cv boots, and so on?

thanks in advance :ben:
Dan

White Shadow 12-10-2006 08:50 PM

Those are banjo bolts and copper gaskets. They attach your brake line to the caliper. You bleed them RR-RL-FR-FL.

!PrjctMax! 12-11-2006 09:45 AM

alright um.......I feel like a total tard for asking this...but is what showed up above just for the front brakes, or for front/rear? Are all the "kits" just for front conversions? I have never really noticed this, so I feel kind of stupid now. :rotz:

Dubbya 12-11-2006 09:57 AM

There are 4 lines there so you have a complete kit for all the way around. Just match up the lengths as you take them off.

BrianV 12-11-2006 11:06 AM

Project,
All Maximas are four line systems, two front, two back. Some cars, mainly, higher-end sports cars with bigger rotors/calipers (multi-piston) carry more lines per brake.

For instance, the 350Z has 6 lines for the front brakes, two for the backs (total of 8 lines), hence why they're more expensive.

!PrjctMax! 12-11-2006 02:44 PM

aha! gotcha! thanks everyone for the responses and for not bashing me :angel:

Larrio Motors 12-11-2006 02:55 PM

a rule of thumb for bleeding brakes is you want to start on the caliper farthest away from your brake master cylinder. Hence in the case of the maxima: RR, RL, FR, FL

irish44j 12-11-2006 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by Larrio Motors
a rule of thumb for bleeding brakes is you want to start on the caliper farthest away from your brake master cylinder. Hence in the case of the maxima: RR, RL, FR, FL

not according to my Haynes manual :scratch:

!PrjctMax! 12-11-2006 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by irish44j
not according to my Haynes manual :scratch:

so are you saying to use the criss-cross method? in the end what kind of difference would there be if you bled criss-cross or furthest away from master cylinder?

scrhale 12-11-2006 06:07 PM

This is why we have FSM's

!PrjctMax! 12-11-2006 09:15 PM


Originally Posted by scrhale
This is why we have FSM's

FSM.....? :gotme:

MrDicks95SE 12-12-2006 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by !PrjctMax!
FSM.....? :gotme:

Factory Service Manual.

!PrjctMax! 12-12-2006 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by Mr****s95SE
Factory Service Manual.

aha! gotcha, I thought it meant something along those lines but wasn't sure

as for schrale...I did not get a service manual when I got my car, so I don;t have one! :Prinz: jk

Larrio Motors 12-12-2006 02:36 PM

You have to buy the service manual, its not given to you.

Although you can download some for free at www.phatg20.net

I'm not sure if they have any 6th gen ones on there yet

Kevlo911 12-12-2006 03:23 PM

I thought the FSM said RR FL RL FR

Larrio Motors 12-12-2006 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by Kevlo911
I thought the FSM said RR FL RL FR

You are correct. Reference BR-9 of FSM/ESM

!PrjctMax! 12-12-2006 03:51 PM

sweet! thanks guys!

shiftnatredline 12-13-2006 08:15 PM

yeah they look like bleeders..

Mizike 12-15-2006 06:30 AM

Is it worth the investment and time to upgrade to SS lines? Ive already upgraded to the 2K4 brakes, but kept the stock brake lines. Also, using RTP slotted with Hawk HPS pads. Braking power has increased, but Im wondering if replacing the stock lines with SS lines would improve braking power/response that much anyways. Comments appreciated.

Mizike 12-18-2006 08:47 AM

bump please!!

White Shadow 12-18-2006 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by Mizike
Is it worth the investment and time to upgrade to SS lines? Ive already upgraded to the 2K4 brakes, but kept the stock brake lines. Also, using RTP slotted with Hawk HPS pads. Braking power has increased, but Im wondering if replacing the stock lines with SS lines would improve braking power/response that much anyways. Comments appreciated.

If you have new lines, it's not necessary unless you are installing a BBK. When they are old, you might consider replacing them with SS lines to get a little bit better pedal feel if you want to, but it's not a night and day difference. Mine were 10 years old and I noticed only a slight difference in pedal feel but not stopping distance.

!PrjctMax! 12-18-2006 09:39 AM

It also minimizes brake fad while under constant pressure---auto-crossing, spirited driving, and so on.

dan

RLW001 12-18-2006 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by Larrio Motors
You have to buy the service manual, its not given to you.

Although you can download some for free at www.phatg20.net

I'm not sure if they have any 6th gen ones on there yet


I downloaded a fsm, what do you use to open an .rar file?

J_Ketzer 12-20-2006 12:33 AM


Originally Posted by RLW001
I downloaded a fsm, what do you use to open an .rar file?

Try WinRAR, should be downloadable here: http://www.download.com/WinRAR/3000-...=dl&tag=button

It's a "trial" program, but if I recall correctly it doesn't actually make you pay for it when the trial period expires. Either way, it should be good enough to open one FSM .rar.


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