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krismax Oct 12, 2004 06:36 PM

Who will be the one to be in the 12's ...
 
NA first . Im puting this in here as a record to see who had the heart to do what they said and who were the ones with blah blah blah .Well you get the idea. 13's have been broke and traveled through.

So who will be next in the 12's? And who will travel through them?

SR20DEN has the NA record with a 13.19 and neal seems to have steped out of the race with a 13.4x. So will it be

SR20DEN
TILLEYS99
krismax
vsamoylov
Ceasar
I30 mike
If your not on this list and would like to add yourself please do

Blu Oct 12, 2004 06:54 PM

I'd say SR20DEN b/c its a huge leap from 13.8's to 12's all motor. Matt ran the 13.1 with a 1.9 60' so the car has more left in it with larger slicks.

TILLEYS99 Oct 12, 2004 07:48 PM

hmmmmmm maybe I will get some slicks soon I dont know if I can pull a 12 on dot drag radials

SR20DEN Oct 12, 2004 07:50 PM

Yeah it's hopeless on street tires or drag radials. Especially on a A33 which is longer and harder to launch.

TILLEYS99 Oct 12, 2004 07:53 PM

I had no problem launching at 4-5k on DOT radials so it may be possible

SR20DEN Oct 12, 2004 08:04 PM

It may be possible on your car but certainly not mine. Even with the 22" MTs the 5k dump still wouldn't get me below the 1.9s. My best E.T. was with a 1.99 60'.

TILLEYS99 Oct 12, 2004 08:07 PM

I actually bent my front motor mount bracket launching with 2.0 60'

I30tMikeD Oct 12, 2004 09:02 PM

Not me for sure unless you guys stop moding for a year. I don't have plans for any mods till I graduate this May and get a decent job. I don't want to spend any more money on this car unless I go big.

SR20DEN Oct 13, 2004 05:28 AM

So who is this 'other' person that someone voted for?

stephenlc Oct 13, 2004 05:38 AM


Originally Posted by TILLEYS99
I actually bent my front motor mount bracket launching with 2.0 60'

maybe because you hat to modify them because of the headers?

TILLEYS99 Oct 13, 2004 06:43 AM

wow you should be a brain surgeon. That is correct they are weak no so I need to mod them.

IceY2K1 Oct 13, 2004 10:20 AM

I'd say SR is now with his '04 final drive, but easily once he puts in his HLSD.

Kevlo911 Oct 13, 2004 01:43 PM

I HAVE to vote my my bud Krismax, you guys have no idea what he has planned. :D

SR20DEN Oct 13, 2004 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by kevlo911
I HAVE to vote my my bud Krismax, you guys have no idea what he has planned. :D

Actually, I do know. :D

Kevlo911 Oct 13, 2004 02:07 PM

Ok, MOST of you guys have no idea :nod:

IceY2K1 Oct 13, 2004 03:00 PM

Shot peened VQ30 rods, cams, and 8500rpm or is there more?

98SEBlackMax Oct 13, 2004 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by SR20DEN
Actually, I do know. :D

I also know . :wiggle:

emmas97 Oct 14, 2004 10:23 AM

had to vote for my own car.... just as long as im not driving it or it will be back in the 15's.... i have poor driving skills...

IceY2K1 Oct 14, 2004 10:47 AM

Again, it's over as soon as SR20DEN gets to a track.:grinno:

SR20DEN Oct 14, 2004 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by IceY2K1
Again, it's over as soon as SR20DEN gets to a track.:grinno:

There is a delay. I currently have no wheels for my slicks.

IceY2K1 Oct 14, 2004 11:59 AM

What wheel size/offset do you need?

Blu Oct 14, 2004 12:28 PM

15x7 35-38 offset without a lip...need all the clearance we can get. Some 15's fit and some don't.

krismax Oct 14, 2004 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by SR20DEN
There is a delay. I currently have no wheels for my slicks.

If you need two ill ship you two that should only be around $35

IceY2K1 Oct 14, 2004 02:01 PM

They're around $250/pair for 15x7 38mm offset Kosei K1s(white only) on tirerack...is he looking for cheaper?


Originally Posted by blubyu2k2
15x7 35-38 offset without a lip...need all the clearance we can get. Some 15's fit and some don't.


liqidvenom Oct 14, 2004 07:15 PM

it might be kinda hard for us 4th gen guys to compete wit those 5.5 gen owners but i would love to see a all motor maxima. does it matter if the car has an interior or not?

emmas97 Oct 15, 2004 05:54 PM

preferably no interior (like door panels, seats, etc.) if it has it, we will just get rid of it anyway... sorry im a retard... at least i was yesterday.... removing interior reduces a fair amount of weight.... removing bumper reinforcements reduces even more weight, but thats really not safe....obviously-without supports, if you hit something without them, youre pretty much f*cked.

Jime Oct 18, 2004 03:52 AM


Originally Posted by SR20DEN
So who is this 'other' person that someone voted for?


That me. :Pumpkin: j/k. However I just ran a best of 13.53 last weekend and got a 1.98 60' a first for me and I have a few more things to try yet this year.

Don't think it will do a 12 though but should be good for a 13.3 or so which is not too bad for an auto and an old fart like me.

Blu Oct 18, 2004 04:21 AM

I think a high stall convertor would benefit the 02 Autos greatly on slicks. I'd say that alone would gain around 3 tenths in the 1/4.

Fezzik Oct 18, 2004 09:58 PM

It shall be me. I will get out and push from the rear until i hit 12s lol

kenji Oct 19, 2004 12:48 AM

Maybe that's what Jime has planned?

Jime Oct 19, 2004 03:57 AM


Originally Posted by kenji
Maybe that's what Jime has planned?

Not really.

I do have one requirement when I do mods etc and that is my car has to drive and feel like stock when I am not racing. I have driven cars with a hi speed convertor and I don't like it on the street. I also had cars when I was younger that had no power steering, no A/C, rode like it had steel wheels, sounded like it had a demon inside etc and I don't think that any of those are really necessary to go fast. The small amount you gain from putting up with those inconveniences is not worth it and can be made up in other ways with a little ingenuity.

My present setup takes me approx 15 mins to change tires, adjust suspension etc to setup when I get to the track. With that I can run 13.5 N/A and low 12's, hopefully soon high 11's on spray and when I leave it looks and sounds and drives like it was originally. When my wife drives my car she can't tell it any difference from when I bought it.

About 3 weeks ago I was at a bracket race consisting mostly of v8 guys. When it got to the eliminations I dialed a 13.6 on my window and pulled in the staging area, beside me was a car who had dialed a 13.7 so I gave him a closer look, it was a 454 Vette, not sure who was more suprised him or me.

PS Actually I don't have anything that qualifies me as "All Motor" I am just an N/A guy who likes to go fast. Actually my spray disqualifies me but I haven't used the spray the last couple of month just racing N/A until I get my nitrous setup the way I want it, hopefully within the next week or so.

kenji Oct 20, 2004 03:59 AM

Interesting.. So what are your goals for N/A? Or is it just that you want to get the fastest j00se times possible, whatever the N/A times?

Jime Oct 20, 2004 05:07 AM


Originally Posted by kenji
Interesting.. So what are your goals for N/A? Or is it just that you want to get the fastest j00se times possible, whatever the N/A times?

I just play with the juice my real racing is done N/A. Really don't have any goals as such just always trying different things. How quick I am is not that important when I race its how consistent I can be, thats what wins the races (bracket). Of the 130 timeslips this year only about 20 are from Test & Tune the rest are races and only a fraction of them are with juice. I will keep playing until I get an 11 sec slip or blow something up, hopefully the 11 sec slip. I think I already have the fastest N/A auto and I am not going to beat the 6 spd times so I am really racing against myself.

Right now I am switching my fuel system over from just using 114 unleaded with the nitrous to using it with the main fuel as well. That means I can try running N/A with race fuel, tune it and see what it does. I really don't expect any gains N/A I am doing it mainly for the spray. I had to get a 255 pump and adjustable fpr which I should have today because the pump I have now won't handle both the engine and nitrous at the same time and I was using a stock fpr which only gives me 40 psi and I need a bit over 50 for the 3.5.

This will also allow me to empty the fuel tank by using the stock pump and save a bit more weight.

I am currently running 2 step colder plugs gapped at .035 which are not helping my N/A times either but I don't want to change plugs every 15 mins. I switched to the Irridiums and ran my fastest time last week so I don't think they are hurting me too much.

You would not believe the number of people that come up and talk to me shaking their heads when I run mid 13's N/A, its always the same stuff. "What all have you done to the engine, what cams, pistons and rods are you using etc." When I tell them its a stock engine they just don't believe it.

SR20DEN Oct 20, 2004 05:28 AM

That Walbro 255HP can certainly solve your fuel problems. Mine gave me a consistant 3.5 bar even with a fuel shot aproaching 200hp while I was tuning it. That was with all of the other stock fuel system components and I never saw it stumble.
Just make sure you trim the two small plastic towers on the top of the pump so that it fits correctly in the cartridge and seals properly. Many people just slap them in and wonder why they can't make fuel pressure.

Jime Oct 20, 2004 05:54 AM


Originally Posted by SR20DEN
That Walbro 255HP can certainly solve your fuel problems. Mine gave me a consistant 3.5 bar even with a fuel shot aproaching 200hp while I was tuning it. That was with all of the other stock fuel system components and I never saw it stumble.
Just make sure you trim the two small plastic towers on the top of the pump so that it fits correctly in the cartridge and seals properly. Many people just slap them in and wonder why they can't make fuel pressure.

Matt this is an external I am using with a fuel cell, I am leaving the stock pump as is.

I am just teeing into the main fuel line before the rail and putting 2 shutoff cocks to switch between the 2 sources. I have already tried it but like I was saying the external pump I now have won't handle the motor and nitrous I have been just using it for nitrous and it will handle way over a 200 shot by using test jets.

bruteMax Oct 20, 2004 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by Jime
You would not believe the number of people that come up and talk to me shaking their heads when I run mid 13's N/A, its always the same stuff. "What all have you done to the engine, what cams, pistons and rods are you using etc." When I tell them its a stock engine they just don't believe it.

That's great motivation to keep pushing to see what's possible. Great job!

Jay_pee99 Nov 4, 2004 03:23 PM

I'll nominate myself!! May not be the first, but i won't be far behind.
By the way, how much of a difference can i expect if i gut the car and run slicks. The times in the sig are with full interior, fulltank ofgas and stock 17's.

Nealoc187 Nov 7, 2004 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by Jay_pee99
I'll nominate myself!! May not be the first, but i won't be far behind.
By the way, how much of a difference can i expect if i gut the car and run slicks. The times in the sig are with full interior, fulltank ofgas and stock 17's.

Around .4 to .5 seconds quicker if you can launch well on them.

SMX95 Nov 9, 2004 11:01 AM

question,what mods do you need to make your maxima run 13's

kenji Nov 9, 2004 01:40 PM

good 60', stage one bolt ons, good driver, good tires, good track.. Depends on what you run now.


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