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Old 05-11-2005, 10:19 AM
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or you can contact me for the adaper plates as well cause maxs is my bro. the adapter plates are top-notch.
 
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Old 05-11-2005, 11:13 AM
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Nismo3112 made them and gave them to me when I bought the VI from him.
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Old 05-11-2005, 11:38 AM
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but i need to know if thats all i will need then. the adapter plates, and the manifold? i dont want to go there, and have to go back later. and vsamoylov, how much are these adapter plates? how many will i need?
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Old 05-11-2005, 12:41 PM
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You'll need two; one for TB and one for IACV. All you need is the upper IM. You will need to flip the DE lower IM and redrill the DEK upper IM to fit. Go to a parts store and buy several feet of vaccum hose though. Also buy caps if you decide to disable/remove the EGR.
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Old 05-11-2005, 02:01 PM
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is there a benefit of using the 5th gen TB over the 4th gen? I thought i remembered saying it'd be tough to use the 5th gen TB with our 4th gen IACV or something. Does disabling the EGR = CEL?
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Old 05-11-2005, 02:13 PM
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Using the 5th gen TB does cause clearance issues with EGR. And disabling the EGR does not result in a CEL as long as you leave the sensors plugged in and dangling in the engine bay.
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You'll get an 0302 EGR High/low flow code if the EGR is disabled.
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Old 05-11-2005, 02:51 PM
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My EGR is disabled and I don't have a CEL. I have all the sensors still plugged in too.
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Old 05-11-2005, 03:20 PM
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I have mine disabled with all the sensors plugged in and get the code. I don't see how you're not getting one. That's the whole point of the EGR temp sensor, to determine if there is EGR flow or not in the conditions that call for it. Check your codes or check to see if the CEL itself is blown.
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Old 05-12-2005, 12:21 AM
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why would you disable the EGR? Is there a benefit of that? Or does it just make the install easier? I dont really care about a CEL, as long as I know what its for and its not robbing my car of power.
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Old 05-12-2005, 07:09 AM
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I've checked for codes; no codes. I disabled the EGR because I didn't have a 5th gen guide tube on hand. You won't loose any power but you will run a little richer.
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This makes no sense. Are you sure your EGR is really disabled? How did you go about doing this?
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Old 05-12-2005, 07:51 AM
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Yes, I'm positive it is disabled. The guide tube is not bolt to the IM. The coolant has been bypassed. The vaccum sources were capped.
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Old 05-12-2005, 02:11 PM
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about how long do you think it would take to complete this project? Is it a weekend sorta deal? I'm really interested in doing, and want to inform myself before i go into something that i really know nothing about. and you said using the 5th gen TB would cause clearance issues with the EGR, but if i disabled the EGR anyways, couldnt i just remove the EGR itself and not have that problem?
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Old 05-12-2005, 02:37 PM
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Removal of IM: 1.5 hours (first time)
Installation of VI: .5 hour
Figuring out vaccum hoses: 3-4 hours

Expect to make a few trips to the auto parts store for various stuff too.
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Old 05-12-2005, 02:49 PM
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thats cool. but what doy ou think about the whole 5th gen tb issue? would it be possible just to eliminate the egr completely?
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Old 05-12-2005, 03:30 PM
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I'm using the 4th TB so I don't have to deal with clearance issues.
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Old 05-12-2005, 10:48 PM
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would the 5th gen have better gains? Did you do the VI and ECU at the same time? or did you do them seperately? I cant wait to feel the difference between my IM now and the 00 VI. Im hoping its going to definitely be noticeable.
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Old 05-13-2005, 04:22 AM
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I'm inclined to say no.
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Old 05-13-2005, 11:44 AM
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no to which question? what sorta hp/tq gains would i be seeing using just the VI?
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Old 05-13-2005, 02:19 PM
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No gains from 5th TB is what I meant. As for the order, I had the ECU before I got the VI. Each was like putting an aftermarket y-pipe on all over again.
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Old 05-13-2005, 02:40 PM
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really? wow...i cant wait. i love how i can feel the y pipe at 3500 rpms. I found one for 125 bucks...just a matter of driving down there. Probably pick it up at the next chicago meet.
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Old 05-13-2005, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by nismology
Instead of putting the elbow on the intake manifold, why didn't you just put the elbow at the bottom of the throttle body where the IACV sat before?
because of clearance problem - between 2000 tb and egr, there's only about .5" gap, that's why 2000 ivac is removed and i had to cut a plug plate and screw it in its place...
 
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Old 05-17-2005, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by maxS
because of clearance problem - between 2000 tb and egr, there's only about .5" gap, that's why 2000 ivac is removed and i had to cut a plug plate and screw it in its place...
Oh ok...gotcha 100%
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Old 05-17-2005, 06:58 PM
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So what switchover are you guys using for the 2k VI swaps? Ive got my 2K VI set at 4600 RPM right now via SMT-6 and it feels good, but im open to suggestions.
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Old 05-18-2005, 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by 98SEBlackMax
So what switchover are you guys using for the 2k VI swaps? Ive got my 2K VI set at 4600 RPM right now via SMT-6 and it feels good, but im open to suggestions.

I would like to know this too as well as if you are using your stock ecu or upgraded ecu. Also mines is opening at about 4800 rpms.
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Old 05-18-2005, 10:27 PM
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mine is not opening yet
 
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Old 05-20-2005, 03:45 PM
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Mine opens at 4600 and I'm using a Summit RPM switch. I've also got an upgraded ECU (no rev limit increase though) for whoever asked.
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Originally Posted by maxS
mine is not opening yet
What is wrong w/ it?
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Old 05-20-2005, 08:27 PM
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Do you guys know if the 4th gen and the 5th gen TPS sensor are identical?

my 5th gen TPS is cracked in the casing, and it feels weird when turning it... Guess i'll have to use my 4th gen one..
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Old 05-21-2005, 07:37 AM
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I would just reuse the 4th gen one.
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Old 05-22-2005, 07:25 AM
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have you had a chance to get to a track yet kevlo?
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Old 05-24-2005, 10:56 AM
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this may be a stupid question, but are all 00-01 intake manifolds VI?
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Old 05-24-2005, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by 99Maxxx
this may be a stupid question, but are all 00-01 intake manifolds VI?
There are no stupid questions. There are only stupid people.

Just kidding!!! You may flip me the virtual bird if you want. I couldn't resist.


Yes, all 2000-01 intake manifolds are VI.
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Old 05-24-2005, 11:06 AM
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this is good stuff. i picked up my 00 upper IM yesterday, and ordered my rpm switch today. Then have to order the adapter plates tomorrow. Are the gains the same using just the upper as opposed to using the lower with the fuel rail, injectors, etc...? What's the significance of using the lower from the 00?
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Originally Posted by eckohb
What's the significance of using the lower from the 00?
just simple ease of installation; don't have to remove, rotate & drill new holes like the 4th lower requires for the swap.
DE-K TB & injectors are larger as well.
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Originally Posted by jmeister
just simple ease of installation; don't have to remove, rotate & drill new holes like the 4th lower requires for the swap.
DE-K TB & injectors are larger as well.
Yeah, the only reason to use the 4th gen lower IM is if you have 370 cc/min or larger sidefeeds and want to keep them.
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^also its a bit cheaper
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Old 05-25-2005, 03:44 PM
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what drilling is needed on the 4th gen lower IM and who sells adapter plates needed for this swap
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Old 05-25-2005, 06:10 PM
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