00VI concerns: IACV and PCV valve setups
11-29-2006, 02:17 PM
#1
00VI concerns: IACV and PCV valve setups
2 quick things i'm curious to know from you guys concerning the 00VI:
1) how many of you are using or tried using the 5th gen IACV w/ the 4th gen plug? if you have that setup, how is it? if you tried it, why didn't you stay w/ that setup?
additionally, are any of you running no IACV at all? i was just thinking if you set the butterfly plate in the TB open enough on the 5th gen TB, you could block off the IACV? startups might be rough but you could modulate w/ your right foot.
2) how are you guys w/ the 00VI running the PCV valve? if you have a 5th gen valve cover, i don't think it's much of an issue, but if you have a 4th gen valve cover, how did you set it up?
thanks in advance.
1) how many of you are using or tried using the 5th gen IACV w/ the 4th gen plug? if you have that setup, how is it? if you tried it, why didn't you stay w/ that setup?
additionally, are any of you running no IACV at all? i was just thinking if you set the butterfly plate in the TB open enough on the 5th gen TB, you could block off the IACV? startups might be rough but you could modulate w/ your right foot.
2) how are you guys w/ the 00VI running the PCV valve? if you have a 5th gen valve cover, i don't think it's much of an issue, but if you have a 4th gen valve cover, how did you set it up?
thanks in advance.
11-29-2006, 05:35 PM
#2
I have the 5th gen IACV. I also used the 4th gen plug. The car starts up at 1250 rpm and drops as the car is warming up. In park I have my car idling around 700rpm. In drive its about 600rpm. There been one or two days of very cold weather and the car stays on. I just need to make sure that the car is properly warmed up before moving especially now with my tranny cooler.
I had another org member hack my 4th gen valve cover to feed the pcv on the side just like the 5th gen valve cover. Works great. My only issue I had before was the use of a heater hose. I found that the heater hose would perspire oil. Therefor its best to use a hose that is resistant to oil or fuel.
I had another org member hack my 4th gen valve cover to feed the pcv on the side just like the 5th gen valve cover. Works great. My only issue I had before was the use of a heater hose. I found that the heater hose would perspire oil. Therefor its best to use a hose that is resistant to oil or fuel.
11-29-2006, 10:15 PM
#4
im using the 4th gen valve cover.. and for the PCV i am running a inline one.. in the hole for where the pcv usually goes i have a 90 degree elbow (typically used for heater hoses - plastic) with hose running to the upper intake manifold.. in between the valve cover and the UIM i have my inline pcv... IMO this was easier than trying to find the correct PCV with a built in 90.. everyone i used wouldnt clear..
speedracer - are you not running a code with that 5th gen IACV?
speedracer - are you not running a code with that 5th gen IACV?
11-30-2006, 04:50 AM
#6
I don't have any codes.
I have an inline pcv too. There is a barb fitting coming out the side. You put a hose on one side of the barb fitting and the other is the pcv hose. Than from the pcv hose to the UIM. I'm using 3/8" transmission hose, which was a struggle to get the hose on one side b/c the pcv has two different diameters.
It was weired what the old heater hose was doing. For a good 4000 miles the hose didn't show signs of oil than all of the sudden, during cold starts in the morning I would almost get this oil condensation. I think it was contributed to the hose being supersaturated. The pcv was brand new when I installed my 00VI and now I had the setup for about 10,000 miles. IIRC a pcv should be replaced every 15k miles. This is why I think its important to use a hose that would repel oil or fuel. In this case I used a transmission hose.
I have an inline pcv too. There is a barb fitting coming out the side. You put a hose on one side of the barb fitting and the other is the pcv hose. Than from the pcv hose to the UIM. I'm using 3/8" transmission hose, which was a struggle to get the hose on one side b/c the pcv has two different diameters.
It was weired what the old heater hose was doing. For a good 4000 miles the hose didn't show signs of oil than all of the sudden, during cold starts in the morning I would almost get this oil condensation. I think it was contributed to the hose being supersaturated. The pcv was brand new when I installed my 00VI and now I had the setup for about 10,000 miles. IIRC a pcv should be replaced every 15k miles. This is why I think its important to use a hose that would repel oil or fuel. In this case I used a transmission hose.
11-30-2006, 08:46 AM
#7
Originally Posted by Cdg2125
I think making the PVC come out the side is much easier than trying to fit a 90 degree nipple. What's the inline thing? I thought the hose went from the PVC right to the manifold?
speedracer - what did you do with the a/c and power steering sensor plugs that normally go to the 4th gen IACV? i was told be everyone.. that not having these hooked up would cause a code.. i guess not in your case?
11-30-2006, 12:59 PM
#11
Originally Posted by 97Maximus
speedracer - what did you do with the a/c and power steering sensor plugs that normally go to the 4th gen IACV? i was told be everyone.. that not having these hooked up would cause a code.. i guess not in your case?
11-30-2006, 03:32 PM
#13
Originally Posted by speed racer
That's b/c they can screw off the 4th gen IACV and you just plug them in. Place ties around your ABS and
how hard is it to fill the hole and tap a new one for the pcv in the rear valve cover?
i'm thinking about just getting a 5thgen rear valve cover and finally getting this 00vi in (it's been sitting around for way too long).
12-02-2006, 06:49 PM
#16
when i tried installing the 00vi w/ the 5th gen iacv and tb earlier, i didn't have to get rid of anything. there is a egrc solenoid valve or something that's disc shaped i can't really remember it was so long ago, but there's a bracket that holds that stuff along w/ a bunch of vacuum hoses, just unbolt the bracket and hmmm, i dont' remember if i removed the bracket or just bent everything down. it is a tight fit though.
12-05-2006, 05:34 PM
#18
Originally Posted by speed racer
I have the 5th gen IACV. I also used the 4th gen plug. The car starts up at 1250 rpm and drops as the car is warming up. In park I have my car idling around 700rpm. In drive its about 600rpm. There been one or two days of very cold weather and the car stays on. I just need to make sure that the car is properly warmed up before moving especially now with my tranny cooler.
I had another org member hack my 4th gen valve cover to feed the pcv on the side just like the 5th gen valve cover. Works great. My only issue I had before was the use of a heater hose. I found that the heater hose would perspire oil. Therefor its best to use a hose that is resistant to oil or fuel.
I had another org member hack my 4th gen valve cover to feed the pcv on the side just like the 5th gen valve cover. Works great. My only issue I had before was the use of a heater hose. I found that the heater hose would perspire oil. Therefor its best to use a hose that is resistant to oil or fuel.
hey speed, do you have any pics by anychance of your setup?
12-05-2006, 05:46 PM
#19
I don't have any pictures of the 5th gen IACV in place. Its cold out so I'm probably not going to be doing anything for a while.
Also, just to let you know this morning was about 29 degrees. This was the first morning I had to just tap the gas a little for the IACV to kick in. Once it kicked in which was about 1 or 2 sec. of holding the throttle, than it worked just like it always did.
Also, just to let you know this morning was about 29 degrees. This was the first morning I had to just tap the gas a little for the IACV to kick in. Once it kicked in which was about 1 or 2 sec. of holding the throttle, than it worked just like it always did.
12-05-2006, 06:04 PM
#21
I have to tap it very suttle. But, this is at 29 degrees. Before it was around 45 and the car wouldn't need a little gas. The weather changed very fast here from 70 degree weather last week to highs of 42 now.
12-05-2006, 09:49 PM
#23
speed, what's the plunger thing on the TB near the TB cable do?
i noticed on my 5th gen tb i dont' have that.... so i might have to get a TB w/ that before i try to install this setup. i'm guessing it has to do w/ cold start idling, but i'm not sure.
i noticed on my 5th gen tb i dont' have that.... so i might have to get a TB w/ that before i try to install this setup. i'm guessing it has to do w/ cold start idling, but i'm not sure.
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