pathfinder intake manifold...will it fit?
11-30-2006, 10:34 PM
#1
pathfinder intake manifold...will it fit?
i just saw some pics of a pathfinder intake manifold 01-04 and i know they have a vq35de but it looks as if the upper IM actually will bolt up to a vq30de. The holes are oval like the 3.0
so im wondering...has anyone tried this out before?
i thought i read a thread on this before also...tried searching for it and couldnt find it.
so will it bolt up?
so im wondering...has anyone tried this out before?
i thought i read a thread on this before also...tried searching for it and couldnt find it.
so will it bolt up?
12-01-2006, 07:44 AM
#7
By my measurements everything does fit under the hood. Just need some time to test fit on a spare VQ30de I have around and figure out how to work around the DE-K stuff inside my car.
I'll try to get some teaser shots near x-mas
I'll try to get some teaser shots near x-mas
12-01-2006, 08:15 AM
#9
Originally Posted by Kevlo911
You will have TONS and TONS of low end power. Your midrange will be okay at best. Top end will also be amazing. That is what I see from lookin at the runner lengths.
im actually thinking of making this my winter project...
12-01-2006, 08:16 AM
#10
Originally Posted by Kevlo911
You will have TONS and TONS of low end power. Your midrange will be okay at best. Top end will also be amazing. That is what I see from lookin at the runner lengths.
12-01-2006, 08:42 AM
#11
Originally Posted by Kevlo911
You will have TONS and TONS of low end power. Your midrange will be okay at best. Top end will also be amazing. That is what I see from lookin at the runner lengths.
12-01-2006, 09:28 AM
#15
Originally Posted by Larrio Motors
Imagine a 4th gen USIM with an extra half of the manifold length added on for the long runner and a switch off into runners so short that it practically goes from the TB to cylinder in about 6-8 inches
Exactly
How heavy are the manifolds and is there an EGR hole?
12-01-2006, 12:04 PM
#17
Originally Posted by Ceasars Chariot
any photos ?
in engine bay
as you can see from the pics...the long runner comes from the throttle body - forward - then winds back under and down into the lower IM.
the short runner comes from the throttle...into the large compartment seen in the 4th pic then straight into the lower intake manifold of the 3rd pic.
12-01-2006, 02:02 PM
#19
Originally Posted by jvelos3
sounds like it would be a dream to drive!!
Unless you're running at the track... in which case you'll have no traction off the line, and your times will be crap because your redline isn't high enough for the top end to make up for the lack of midrange.
12-01-2006, 02:31 PM
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I would use this knowledge to run a a full pathy VQ35 with a 00 VI. Stephen Max found out a while back that it uses the same sensors/timing chain setup as a VQ30, but with early VTC's. The point would be to run the pathy VQ35 w/ 00 VI on a regular VQ30 ECU and wiring harness, and add on stuff (RPM switch?) to control the VTC's.
So VTC's without the wiring of a 02+ ECU, you get to keep simple cable throttle (no e-gas and electronic pedal), but you do get VTCs. Although they vary less than 350z/maxima VTCs.
So VTC's without the wiring of a 02+ ECU, you get to keep simple cable throttle (no e-gas and electronic pedal), but you do get VTCs. Although they vary less than 350z/maxima VTCs.
12-01-2006, 02:53 PM
#22
Originally Posted by JClaw
I would use this knowledge to run a a full pathy VQ35 with a 00 VI. Stephen Max found out a while back that it uses the same sensors/timing chain setup as a VQ30, but with early VTC's. The point would be to run the pathy VQ35 w/ 00 VI on a regular VQ30 ECU and wiring harness, and add on stuff (RPM switch?) to control the VTC's.
So VTC's without the wiring of a 02+ ECU, you get to keep simple cable throttle (no e-gas and electronic pedal), but you do get VTCs. Although they vary less than 350z/maxima VTCs.
So VTC's without the wiring of a 02+ ECU, you get to keep simple cable throttle (no e-gas and electronic pedal), but you do get VTCs. Although they vary less than 350z/maxima VTCs.
12-01-2006, 03:03 PM
#23
Originally Posted by JClaw
I would use this knowledge to run a a full pathy VQ35 with a 00 VI. Stephen Max found out a while back that it uses the same sensors/timing chain setup as a VQ30, but with early VTC's. The point would be to run the pathy VQ35 w/ 00 VI on a regular VQ30 ECU and wiring harness, and add on stuff (RPM switch?) to control the VTC's.
So VTC's without the wiring of a 02+ ECU, you get to keep simple cable throttle (no e-gas and electronic pedal), but you do get VTCs. Although they vary less than 350z/maxima VTCs.
So VTC's without the wiring of a 02+ ECU, you get to keep simple cable throttle (no e-gas and electronic pedal), but you do get VTCs. Although they vary less than 350z/maxima VTCs.
12-01-2006, 03:33 PM
#24
Until dynos have been done with the VI open, closed, and dialed in we will just have to wait. I think the short runner length only may work well at the track, similar to the SSIM. On the street the long runners would be good in the city like the VQ30DE USIM.
12-01-2006, 03:35 PM
#25
Originally Posted by jvelos3
sounds good...but why use the 00VI? the 00VI is for an engine that is .5 liters smaller...so i dont think it flows better than the pathyVI or the other 3.5 IM's.
12-01-2006, 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jvelos3
sounds good...but why use the 00VI? the 00VI is for an engine that is .5 liters smaller...so i dont think it flows better than the pathyVI or the other 3.5 IM's.
12-02-2006, 09:54 AM
#27
Originally Posted by jvelos3
sounds good...but why use the 00VI? the 00VI is for an engine that is .5 liters smaller...so i dont think it flows better than the pathyVI or the other 3.5 IM's.
12-02-2006, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by nismology
The people that went from a 00VI to a 2k2 IM noted a power gain.
Seriously - the whole pathy VQ35 (okay, perhaps with FWD VQ35 shortblock) running on a VQ30 ECU but with VTC's on top of that - and a 00 VI - would be a great setup, really. I hope someone tries it. Then we will know FOR SURE how well the 00 VI works on an NA VQ35 setup since the heads and lower IM actually have oval ports that match up perfect to a 00VI.
12-03-2006, 12:08 AM
#30
Originally Posted by JClaw
Yes - extremely poorly matched to FWD VQ35 heads and lower IM. No one has tried VQ35 pathy heads and lower IM with 00 VI.
Seriously - the whole pathy VQ35 (okay, perhaps with FWD VQ35 shortblock) running on a VQ30 ECU but with VTC's on top of that - and a 00 VI - would be a great setup, really. I hope someone tries it. Then we will know FOR SURE how well the 00 VI works on an NA VQ35 setup since the heads and lower IM actually have oval ports that match up perfect to a 00VI.
Seriously - the whole pathy VQ35 (okay, perhaps with FWD VQ35 shortblock) running on a VQ30 ECU but with VTC's on top of that - and a 00 VI - would be a great setup, really. I hope someone tries it. Then we will know FOR SURE how well the 00 VI works on an NA VQ35 setup since the heads and lower IM actually have oval ports that match up perfect to a 00VI.
this is getting really interesting...
12-03-2006, 07:01 AM
#31
We're not talking about 3.0s.
What happened was that some people with 3.5 swaps were using the 00VI even though the ports didn't quite line up. Then they switched to the 2k2 IM and got more power (duh).
What happened was that some people with 3.5 swaps were using the 00VI even though the ports didn't quite line up. Then they switched to the 2k2 IM and got more power (duh).
12-03-2006, 11:17 AM
#33
Originally Posted by JSutter
zack342 blolted it up to a vq30de LIM and it fits. He sold it to larrio.
It did and if anyone is interested I have Lower VQ30DE manifold with injectors for sale.(shameless plug)
12-03-2006, 11:19 AM
#34
Originally Posted by Larrio Motors
No EGR hole from what i've seen on mine.
The manifold is fairly heavy in comparison to the stock DE-K composite one. I'll weigh it later on tonight
The manifold is fairly heavy in comparison to the stock DE-K composite one. I'll weigh it later on tonight
12-16-2008, 08:02 AM
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Good point, and search for posts by 98seblackmax and you will find the other thread you are thinking off, don't know if he gave up after all the timing cover issues but you should bump that thread as well.
So with the '02vi properly portmatched set-up that I did I think we can now assume that even though the '02vi gives huge gains and 1k rpms early than an '00vi, for a motor that is setup to rev out, the '00vi is still the king. BUT, I'm still anxiously awaiting the 2 manifold people have been sleeping on - the de-t & pathy, I have alot of faith in the pathy.
So with the '02vi properly portmatched set-up that I did I think we can now assume that even though the '02vi gives huge gains and 1k rpms early than an '00vi, for a motor that is setup to rev out, the '00vi is still the king. BUT, I'm still anxiously awaiting the 2 manifold people have been sleeping on - the de-t & pathy, I have alot of faith in the pathy.
12-16-2008, 09:26 AM
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