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GoalieKeg Feb 20, 2007 04:34 PM

5th gen clutch on EU'd 3.5: Almost a year later
 
I've had the 5th gen clutch running on the 3.5 for a bit now, and I promised you guys a long time ago that I'd give my feedback on this clutch. I didn't think it would last more than 2 months with the 3.5 torque, but boy was I wrong. I used all OEM parts, clutch disc, pressure plate, and 4th gen TOB on stock new flywheel. This clutch is incredible for an OEM clutch. For those debating (N/A tuned 3.5 swap) on whether to get a Stage 1 clutch for a 3.5 swap or go with a 5th gen clutch, I highly reccomend getting the 5th gen. I've put over 10k miles on the 3.5 swap now. This clutch outlasted a 4th gen tranny in good running order used with my 3.5 swap.

I know a few of you guys have questioned whether or not this clutch can handle the 3.5 torque. I took a risk and found out that it has some potential.


I also noticed that the stock SR20DET PP is extremely similar to the 5th gen PP. Any of those with SR20 experience besides me want to chime in?

scrhale Feb 20, 2007 08:07 PM

You mean 2000 clutch? WOW ... I am impressed it held up.

dfownz Feb 20, 2007 08:39 PM

They definetly have balls.

krismax Feb 21, 2007 01:17 AM

i still have the same ACT clutch ive had in my car since my swap 2 1/2 years ago.

do you think the 5th gen clutch would take high rpm clutch dumps?

Stabone Feb 21, 2007 05:06 AM


Originally Posted by GoalieKeg
I've had the 5th gen clutch running on the 3.5 for a bit now, and I promised you guys a long time ago that I'd give my feedback on this clutch. I didn't think it would last more than 2 months with the 3.5 torque, but boy was I wrong. I used all OEM parts, clutch disc, pressure plate, and 4th gen TOB on stock new flywheel. This clutch is incredible for an OEM clutch. For those debating (N/A tuned 3.5 swap) on whether to get a Stage 1 clutch for a 3.5 swap or go with a 5th gen clutch, I highly reccomend getting the 5th gen. I've put over 10k miles on the 3.5 swap now. This clutch outlasted a 4th gen tranny in good running order used with my 3.5 swap.

I know a few of you guys have questioned whether or not this clutch can handle the 3.5 torque. I took a risk and found out that it has some potential.

:sprint: I'm untuned(I'll be using SAFCII soon)and I'm using the same setup as well. I have had 4k trouble free miles which 3/4 of'em are city. So far nothing funny, no burning clutch smell after dumping, nothing to make me nervous.

Overall wayyy better driveability than the Spec stage 2 i had before.

scrhale Feb 21, 2007 07:03 AM

Heh ... either my mechanic screwed me or I got a bad OEM 2K clutch. I am getting more chatter than a street construction worker with a jackhammer when I am starting in first.

maximariceboi Feb 21, 2007 07:20 AM

looks like i ll be reusing my clutch now =]

Stabone Feb 21, 2007 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by scrhale
Heh ... either my mechanic screwed me or I got a bad OEM 2K clutch. I am getting more chatter than a street construction worker with a jackhammer when I am starting in first.

Are you sure its not the key value clutch? My first go around I thought I had a 5th gen when it turned out to be a key value and I had similar problems including slipping. THEN someone posted pictures of what to look for on the disc and what do ya know.... key value junk.

GodFather Feb 21, 2007 08:37 AM

There's 2 types of 5th gen clutch, the earlier versions made for production before Nov, 2000 are similar to stock 4th gen clutch. But it's got 200lbs more clamp force than 4th gen.

The second type is the "AE" clutch, made for cars production after Nov, 2000. The ending part numbers for both AE PP and CD are xxxxx-2Y920, IIRC. The AE clutch has 135lbs more clamp force than the original 5th gen clutch, and it's assembly is a little beefier and friction surface is larger than the original 5th gen. Additionally, this AE clutch is made by Exedy, I'm doubting it's a stage 1 that Nissan decides to use as an OEM part for their 2001 Maxima's.

Fitment: You can mix and match any of the 4th gen clutch parts to the original 5th gen assembly, but you cannot mix the AE clutch with any of the 4th gen or regular 5th gen clutch assembly because the friction ring of the AE is larger, thus making it impossible for a 4th or 5th gen CD to fit in. This fitment issue was addressed in a thread before, but I got it all figured out because at one point, I had all 3 clutches in front of me.

-Peter-

nismology Feb 21, 2007 08:51 AM

Handling WOT sprints on the street is one thing, but hard launches on slicks at the track is another. Curious to see how it'd handle the latter...


Edit: I didn't even think it'd do the first one, so this is good and surprising news.

scrhale Feb 21, 2007 11:27 AM

It is definitely not key value ... I purchased the products myself and gave them to the mechanic ... I wanted OEM 5th gen parts in my car.

GoalieKeg Feb 21, 2007 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by krismax
i still have the same ACT clutch ive had in my car since my swap 2 1/2 years ago.

do you think the 5th gen clutch would take high rpm clutch dumps?

EDIT: I would say no to either (depends on how much you race). I started the major damage on my tranny at the track with a 4500 clutch dump, I heard the gears skip a tooth. A few weeks later, first gear went completely.


WOT into 2nd gear on the street grabs great.

d00df00d Feb 23, 2007 04:32 AM


Originally Posted by GoalieKeg
I also noticed that the stock SR20DET PP is extremely similar to the 5th gen PP. Any of those with SR20 experience besides me want to chime in?

Someone here once posted saying that the S15 Silvia uses the same PP as the 5th gen Maxima. He probably meant the post-11/00 PP that you mentioned... Is that the one you're asking about?

GoalieKeg Feb 23, 2007 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by d00df00d
Someone here once posted saying that the S15 Silvia uses the same PP as the 5th gen Maxima. He probably meant the post-11/00 PP that you mentioned... Is that the one you're asking about?

Yes, it is possible that it is that one.

95maxrider Jun 7, 2013 10:50 AM

:mardi:

I know, I know, this is a very old thread. I'm just curious if the 5th gen clutch kept holding the 3.5 power or if it eventually started to slip.

I'm getting ready to put a 3.5 in my car that comes with a used/abused ACT clutch and stock flywheel, but I also have the option to reuse the 5th gen clutch/flywheel I paid $900 for last year with like 5,000 easy miles on them. I don't drag race or do clutch dumps, but I do auto-x on Hoosiers. Right now I'm leaning towards keeping the 5th gen clutch, but if more people chime in here with other reviews, I might change my mind.

95maxrider Jun 17, 2013 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by 95maxrider (Post 8803754)
:mardi:

I know, I know, this is a very old thread. I'm just curious if the 5th gen clutch kept holding the 3.5 power or if it eventually started to slip.

I'm getting ready to put a 3.5 in my car that comes with a used/abused ACT clutch and stock flywheel, but I also have the option to reuse the 5th gen clutch/flywheel I paid $900 for last year with like 5,000 easy miles on them. I don't drag race or do clutch dumps, but I do auto-x on Hoosiers. Right now I'm leaning towards keeping the 5th gen clutch, but if more people chime in here with other reviews, I might change my mind.

Anyone have any thoughts on this?


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