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Old 05-20-2008, 06:18 AM
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Also, does anyone have any opinions on using IAT readings inputted for the correction factors? Will that totally fuxor things since instead of 66* for several runs they might be 76* and 86* for another run?
Temp is not the only item taken into consideration for the correction factor.

Temp / pressure / RH.
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Originally Posted by streetzlegend
You can check out my n/a dyno to compare


here is another when i went FI but still gives an idea of the curve with auto and 00vi. you can see the hp stay almost at peak till the end. gotta find other dyno graphs but the hp curve actually keeps going and stays up there till 6500.
You wouldnt happen to know your numbers with your smoothing set to 5 would you?
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And SAE CF?
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I was wondering who the original douche was......anyways, subscribed. Interesting veers on an unbeaten path for the A32.
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Originally Posted by maximabebe
I was wondering who the original douche was......anyways, subscribed. Interesting veers on an unbeaten path for the A32.
Its funny I knew who he was talking about as soon as he said it. lol
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A douche is he who never gets runfiles after spending the $$ on dynoing.
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Originally Posted by ajcool2
You wouldnt happen to know your numbers with your smoothing set to 5 would you?
nah those are old dyno graphs so i would have to dig up the files from old drives. this one is not too detailed just a curve in general no rpm, but its at least set to 5 smoothness lol.

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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Temp is not the only item taken into consideration for the correction factor.

Temp / pressure / RH.

yes, and I have the formula that DJ uses written down, I'm just not good enough with math to want to bother figuring out what say a 10* temp difference makes on the cf.

Either way I have bad news Don't expect another dyno of an SSIM version anytime in the near future. On a positive note I'm still working on obtaining the secret VI so expect something else soon that might blow everything out of the water.
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So kev you are too busy to work on my car because you are developing a secret sauce intake manifold. I would have donated my car for the work. Anyway congrats and give me a call about some injector work.
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Originally Posted by KRRZ350
yes, and I have the formula that DJ uses written down, I'm just not good enough with math to want to bother figuring out what say a 10* temp difference makes on the cf.

Either way I have bad news Don't expect another dyno of an SSIM version anytime in the near future. On a positive note I'm still working on obtaining the secret VI so expect something else soon that might blow everything out of the water.
So why are u giving up on this setup? Did something crap out? The reason i ask is because you were really sure about SSIM and dyno. Or are you really wanting this secret vi? It would have been really nice to see the SSIM dyno to see wat the A32 is capable of....unless the secret VI is easy to obtain. I really want to try this swap it looks interesting but im not sure if i want to do it on my engine since it has 300k. But anyway YOU have started a whole new project for 4th genners to mess around with. Nice work peeece.
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good work and nice numbers!!!!!!!!!!
and +1 on trying to find a cheapand easy way to advance timing using the CPS REF. that would be sick if you pulled that off......good luck
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This was one of my vehicles that Kevin takes care of for me. I just picked up the car, and am impressed beyond words. The extra 30HP he made for me feels great--and is night and day over what it used to be.

We decided not to try the smim because it is not reversable, and if it looses power, it will cost a fortune to get another intake manifold. We are going to wait until we can find a cheap 3.5 intake manifold to use as a core, and we'll go back to the dyno and try Kevin's smim mod too.

The car as is "feels" much faster than my I35. On the way home the wife (in our I35) and I were side by side on the highway, and we both punched it at 50mph--and ran to 80. The 3.0 was ~2 car lengths ahead when I hit 80.

He does exceptional work, and even painted the intake to match my car---everything looks great!

Thanks again for everything Kevin!

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Originally Posted by willy431
This was one of my vehicles that Kevin takes care of for me. I just picked up the car, and am impressed beyond words. The extra 30HP he made for me feels great--and is night and day over what it used to be.

We decided not to try the smim because it is not reversable, and if it looses power, it will cost a fortune to get another intake manifold. We are going to wait until we can find a cheap 3.5 intake manifold to use as a core, and we'll go back to the dyno and try Kevin's smim mod too.

The car as is "feels" much faster than my I35. On the way home the wife (in our I35) and I were side by side on the highway, and we both punched it at 50mph--and ran to 80. The 3.0 was ~2 car lengths ahead when I hit 80.

He does exceptional work, and even painted the intake to match my car---everything looks great!

Thanks again for everything Kevin!

Nice to have a wife who shares your interests hahaha.. whoever gets home last clean the dishes...
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id like to compare my run files soon to be getting, see you soon kev, of my m/t 00vi'd with y pipe max to this setup
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This interesting. Patiently waiting. 3.5 SSIM on my motor would be a great addition if everything goes as planned. I have a spare complete 00VI lying around, Maybe time to locate a 02VI myself and do some playing over the winter.

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anything new KRRZ350???
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Originally Posted by TDotMax
This interesting. Patiently waiting. 3.5 SSIM on my motor would be a great addition if everything goes as planned. I have a spare complete 00VI lying around, Maybe time to locate a 02VI myself and do some playing over the winter.

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I have a vq35 gen LIM for sale if your interested.
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is there an update from the owner?
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ill try the 3.0 LIM spacer to 3.5UIM way. And try to figure the fitment issue between back coilpacks and the space for the upper to fit. The back coilpacks fitment like the way it is on your setup scares me a bit too much to try on my car. ill take measurements first. It interests me enough to think about a better way, though..Thumbs up!!

but why going to a returnless setup?? not enough vacuum sources or??
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Very interesting.. apparently I'm a last to find out that this had already been done lol. Good job!
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Car got parted out, all of the parts for this swap are going in the classifieds this weekend. Good for 3.5 swaps also.

Aeromotive afpr w/all fittings, no gauge (Well you can have the bad gauge)

Rear coil-packs/plug wire.

Lower, injectors, inj. connectors.

Upper manifold w/following:
Converted cable/tps 3.5 throttle body
Throttle cable bracket
EGR, yes EGR, had a fully functioning EGR system on this car for the past few months, everything included to have EGR on your '02 mani'd or swapped 4th gen
SSIM'd W/ Polished NWP plate

IACV & Adaptor W/huge 5/8" fitting

New LIM gaskets

Several Upper IM gaskets

Misc. hoses

K&N filter


You'll still need to hack up your maf, cut down your rear valve cover, extend your wires, portmatch the heads & LIM gaskets, and figure out other stupid little stuff like hoses etc.

$450 shipped FIRM
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Damn that is intense.

I wish I had all these parts together. Someone needs to make a sheetmetal IM for the VQ30. Single stage, huge plenum, slightly fatter + shorter runners (somewhere between the 00VI runner sizes)...
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Originally Posted by skuccio's max
Damn that is intense.

I wish I had all these parts together. Someone needs to make a sheetmetal IM for the VQ30. Single stage, huge plenum, slightly fatter + shorter runners (somewhere between the 00VI runner sizes)...
(sorry if my english is not that good,my first language is spanish and im in mexico)i want to try something like that but the only thing i have is a USIM that came with my VQ30 available ...could you give me the specs of 00VI runers and what size should the plenum be.


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Damn that is intense.

I wish I had all these parts together. Someone needs to make a sheetmetal IM for the VQ30. Single stage, huge plenum, slightly fatter + shorter runners (somewhere between the 00VI runner sizes)...
The 00VI 'runners' are a little more complex than just having a certain length, the entire 00VI is, IMO.

Internally. it's an inverted outer composite MEVI.
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from what i understand ,it means something like a manifold with just one size runners,that size been 00VI short runners.like the power rod removal

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im bumping this thread, will add pics in a few of what im doing. i just got done doing the porting. im adding Rev-up cams to the mix thou on a 5spd.
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Hmm so you actually did this over a 00VI?
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Originally Posted by ajcool2
Hmm so you actually did this over a 00VI?
yea i didnt want to find and buy one when i had a SSIM sitting here with everything i need, plus i already have the 3.5 rear valve cover and coilpacks, so i can skip the ghey with the coil on plug.
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yea i didnt want to find and buy one when i had a SSIM sitting here with everything i need, plus i already have the 3.5 rear valve cover and coilpacks, so i can skip the ghey with the coil on plug.
3.5 valve cover makes this basically plug and play. But your gonna have a small oil leak in the back by the timing side of the motor with the 3.5 rear valve cover. With a set of aarons spacers and front coilpacks for the rear, the IM should just clear the dek valve cover... You can try some JB stick for the leak.

If you dont want the leak, but dont have spacers, you can just grind down the middle coil pack hump on the dek valve cover and also grind down the part of the IM where the elbow and manifold join. Use the front coilpacks for this also. You might have to extend the coilpack harness since you have an A32 by the way.

Also note the lengths of the coilpack stems, you might have to swap some around. Good luck
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3.5 valve cover makes this basically plug and play. But your gonna have a small oil leak in the back by the timing side of the motor with the 3.5 rear valve cover. With a set of aarons spacers and front coilpacks for the rear, the IM should just clear the dek valve cover... You can try some JB stick for the leak.

If you dont want the leak, but dont have spacers, you can just grind down the middle coil pack hump on the dek valve cover and also grind down the part of the IM where the elbow and manifold join. Use the front coilpacks for this also. You might have to extend the coilpack harness since you have an A32 by the way.

Also note the lengths of the coilpack stems, you might have to swap some around. Good luck
u mean the piece that holds the cams down and the timing cover screws into? yea i got that off a 3.5 too. i wont have any leaks.

the coilpack stems now that u mention it im going to look into.
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the coilpacks are fine they are falling right into place with the 3.5 valve cover on
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u mean the piece that holds the cams down and the timing cover screws into? yea i got that off a 3.5 too. i wont have any leaks.

the coilpack stems now that u mention it im going to look into.
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the coilpacks are fine they are falling right into place with the 3.5 valve cover on
good. Got any pics of the port work you did? About how much material did you take off?
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Alot of material has to come off, but its mostly at the top of the port, the VQ30 has a much wider intake port compared to the VQ35, when i look at it actually i think the VQ30 ports are larger than the VQ35, surprise surprise. I'll have to get some pics up.
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We knew that from when krismax was doing the opposite.

http://forums.maxima.org/1-4-1-8-mil...-tomarrow.html http://forums.maxima.org/1-4-1-8-mil...ay-new-pb.html
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
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I think he put something like 233 down with the gutted 00VI at or near redline (7k for him) w/an A32 ECU/3.5 ... no one ever pursued it, but IMO, the design of the 00VI > 02+VIAS, it was just the port matching that had us.
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
I think he put something like 233 down with the gutted 00VI at or near redline (7k for him) w/an A32 ECU/3.5 ... no one ever pursued it, but IMO, the design of the 00VI > 02+VIAS, it was just the port matching that had us.
we'll see how much i can put down with this setup, although cams are probably in my favor.

btw can somebody confirm this, im not calling anybody out but i think its BS, somebody with a DEK, rev-up cams, and the normal bolt-on BS said they made 240whp or something like that, anybody know of that?
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Originally Posted by Crusher103
we'll see how much i can put down with this setup, although cams are probably in my favor.

btw can somebody confirm this, im not calling anybody out but i think its BS, somebody with a DEK, rev-up cams, and the normal bolt-on BS said they made 240whp or something like that, anybody know of that?
a buddy of mine put down 240 last week in his de-K.....no cams.......
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Originally Posted by datdude20
a buddy of mine put down 240 last week in his de-K.....no cams.......
Who?
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