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Old 06-10-2012, 03:19 PM
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7th gen VQ swap in progress and old motor aftermath (slow updates!)...

I already pulled the old motor and started swapping a few things over and wanted to find out why the old motor seized.

1st thing I noticed after the tranny came off was the bolts holding the timing ring to the flywheel. They were either sheared off, missing or bent. The ring was starting to eat into the block/oil pan . Someone sucks at tightening bolts.
Visually, there is nothing wrong under the oil pan and you can still see a good amount of crosshatching (181k mi). Absolutely no shavings or anything were found.

I'm going to try to take pics as another reference for the swap. Perhaps, I may do a couple things slightly different, if possible.

Do we need to pray facing Surra 5 times a day?

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Good to see another one in progress. What are you gonna do for tuning? More specifically the evt control. Seems like that's where the bulk of the power is hidden.
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Good to see another one in progress. What are you gonna do for tuning? More specifically the evt control. Seems like that's where the bulk of the power is hidden.
Bow down/order the haltech from Surra. It's going to basically be a clone of his.

I'll be content with 300 whp for a bit...

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what gen maxima are you putting this motor in?
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what gen maxima are you putting this motor in?
^this
And best of luck! I would love to attempt what youre doing, except I cant afford the almighty haltech LOL
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hmm, interesting...
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Originally Posted by CLyons0203
what gen maxima are you putting this motor in?
Oh, sorry. I have a 2003 ME TE 6 spd

I don't think I'd do if it wasn't a 5.5. The wiring wouldn't be PNP. I'm fine working with it, but the headache...
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Niceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee



Finally!




Cant wait for "official" 5.7 Gen to take over! hahah






IN!
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Originally Posted by SurraTT
Niceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Cant wait for "official" 5.7 Gen to take over! hahah


Friction plate and ARP rod bolts ordered

OT, but I think I narrowly avoided having my DD toasted b/c people like to hook up my battery terminals opposite at the auto parts store.

Not to mention I think I was just violated without a reach around AND I had to pay 115 dollars for it.

Yeah, yeah, never let anyone touch your car, I know.

Pics of the timing ring. A good example of what you should not see.

Screw gouging into the oil pan
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Ring separating from the flywheel. Look at that gap!
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These already fell out. The holes are no longer aligned.
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Screws and debris inside the cover.
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Just a shot of the new motor looking new
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Moar updates please
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Originally Posted by Shift_Max
Moar updates please
I have to do some repair on the block before I swap things over (that's how I got it cheap). Slowly, but surely haha.

It's so Fing hot here.
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Swap some cams in their while you have the chance. You will seriously regret it when you try and do it later down the road. I would gladly wait a month or however long it takes to save up for cams. just my 2 cents.

Good luck on the swap!
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Originally Posted by FastnFuriousMax
Swap some cams in their while you have the chance. You will seriously regret it when you try and do it later down the road. I would gladly wait a month or however long it takes to save up for cams. just my 2 cents.

Good luck on the swap!


Yeah, but I plan on boosting. Cams would be awesome, but then you might as well port the heads, and get real headers and....and... Just a lot of money for minor gains (340 whp max?). Don't get me wrong, I WANT that, but it just doesn't make sense.

I have a lot of turbo **** already, so that's much easier and cheaper.

Surra's dyno will keep me content for a few months until I fully readjust to the max. Then I'll be wanting more.
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that flywheel is probably done for man, what are you doing to fix it? The alum threads where the bolts holding the timing ring on are probably toast.
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Originally Posted by Child_uv_KoRn


Yeah, but I plan on boosting. Cams would be awesome, but then you might as well port the heads, and get real headers and....and... Just a lot of money for minor gains (340 whp max?). Don't get me wrong, I WANT that, but it just doesn't make sense.

I have a lot of turbo **** already, so that's much easier and cheaper.

Surra's dyno will keep me content for a few months until I fully readjust to the max. Then I'll be wanting more.



So you plan on boosting the 09 motor? Now thats gonna be interesting!
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Originally Posted by SurraTT
that flywheel is probably done for man, what are you doing to fix it? The alum threads where the bolts holding the timing ring on are probably toast.
I think the flywheel threads are okay. The screws backed out then sheared off. Even if they're damaged I can just fill them and retap. It's a dumb design.
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Originally Posted by Child_uv_KoRn
I think the flywheel threads are okay. The screws backed out then sheared off. Even if they're damaged I can just fill them and retap. It's a dumb design.
Yeah, Im kinda wanting a different clutch/flywheel setup.
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Originally Posted by SurraTT
Yeah, Im kinda wanting a different clutch/flywheel setup.
At least they riveted the ring to the flywheel on the 7th gen
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There's nothing wrong with the old motor at all.

Take a guess why it appeared to be seized.
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wow



idk what else to say
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I just checked the box (before I threw it away) that the friction plate came in and there was a walbro 255 (GSS342) in it! SCORE!

I already have one in the car, though.
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Originally Posted by SurraTT
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idk what else to say
WOW is right.
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Oxy/Ace torch is here. Block repair can commence!
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This whole time it was just a loose/broken screw? man. Good luck!
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Originally Posted by Maximeltman
This whole time it was just a loose/broken screw? man. Good luck!
Yeah, can you Fing believe it
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Subscribing for interesting thread...Good luck
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Jajajaja... Never knOw why things happen!! If it not that way you probably never do the 7th gen swap.. Good luck!!
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3 weeks of vacation coming up before the end of the year.

Maybe something will get accomplished, now.
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interested to see how this will all turnout!! if my vq35 decides to die (its currently boosted so who knows lol) i want to go this route as well but lower the boost from my current 02 145k mi motor lol.

goodluck with the build!! i want to see how it all plays out
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Old 10-02-2012, 06:24 PM
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dayummmm subscribed for updates/finished project... wish i had funds to do something like this on a 4th gen....imagine the power it would pull...
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Originally Posted by Child_uv_KoRn
Bow down/order the haltech from Surra. It's going to basically be a clone of his.

I'll be content with 300 whp for a bit...
update for reply; 306 who VQ3.5 V6. WHAT A MACHINE!!
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