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01-08-2011, 02:07 PM
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01-08-2011, 02:38 PM
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In a straight line, most certainly. Also very expensive to make faster. At least compared to this maxima that is/was 100% capable of running high 10s/low 11s on a large shot of nitrous. Although some of the AMGs can be pretty fast, they are also very heavy and expensive.
01-08-2011, 03:43 PM
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With a good tune I'd realistically would expect anything above that range of 310whp and up. I'm want to be safe here, but driving with it tuned on the UTEC it is already like a pissed off freight train on steroids. It "feels" faster then when I had a 75 shot on the stock car. I'm leaving the brand new Deutschwerks 380cc's in the block for the buyer. So yes it's still in it.
01-08-2011, 06:57 PM
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01-09-2011, 04:39 AM
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01-09-2011, 06:50 AM
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at one point you said you wanted this as your daily driver, what have you been driving around in the meantime?
what car ...
props to all the time, money, work, patience,
If not that then I'd like to try my hand at something German. This is the longest I've owned a car, and I've upped my game everytime (10+ past cars). I don't think I'll ever go this far again, but I would fully bolton mod and tune anything new that I get.
You should get this.
You should get this.
props to all the time, money, work, patience,
01-09-2011, 08:16 AM
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Goes to show NA builds can be very expensive and in most cases such as this the owner/builder will end up giving up. In result selling everything or most of it to lower debt owed or simply lack of funds to continue.
Gotta commit when doing something like this but hey things happen.
Gotta commit when doing something like this but hey things happen.
01-09-2011, 12:37 PM
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Goes to show NA builds can be very expensive and in most cases such as this the owner/builder will end up giving up. In result selling everything or most of it to lower debt owed or simply lack of funds to continue.
Gotta commit when doing something like this but hey things happen.
Gotta commit when doing something like this but hey things happen.
01-09-2011, 02:55 PM
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In a straight line, most certainly. Also very expensive to make faster. At least compared to this maxima that is/was 100% capable of running high 10s/low 11s on a large shot of nitrous. Although some of the AMGs can be pretty fast, they are also very heavy and expensive.
I based my response off of the type of racing he seemed interested in. Earlier in the thread he mentioned wanting the car to be able to do more than go fast in a straight line.
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01-09-2011, 03:36 PM
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All that said, this argument is pointless because I'm sure his mind is already made up. He hinted at a German car so you probably have the right idea for what he's aiming for.
01-10-2011, 08:24 AM
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I beg to differ his build was based on proven off the shelf parts already. The only thing one may have learned here is the issues with UTEC. Other than that there's really nothing much to see here. IMO I think he finally realized like WTF over $10,000 why??? to get barely over 300whp NA on a FWD car. YEa it's different yippie. Ok now time to sell and get a real sports car.
I'm sure he'll explain his exact reasons or not, it's up to him.The doubt of him finishing for me was there all along.
Life is taking so long honestly. Sorry for the delay. After this motor has been put together, finding time to road tune it with Matt has been difficult to get our schedules straight. Signed a contract on a new house and going through the trials and tribulations of that ordeal, so that's where most of my free time is spent. I did however dropped her off with my SR20DEN yesterday, and advised him to keep it until he's done dialing her in. Hoping for some stout results when I get her back, and hope for it to be within a couple weeks. I haven't forgotten about it and this thread, just working around the very scarce time I have at the moment. Numbers will be up as soon as she returns for sure, headed straight to the dyno.
If you got out the **** money then go for it I mean all the way. I think everyone should realize here is that VQ's are pretty much maxed out geometry wise. At the end of the day it all comes down to how much you really want it. Because trying to squeeze out anything over 280whp with a FWD VQ35 maxima takes a whole lot of money and your commitment better be there or else, you already know.....You'll end up selling it all for a RWD German sports car.
Nice try tho, family first congrats on the new home Deckdout2.
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01-10-2011, 08:40 AM
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I beg to differ his build was based on proven off the shelf parts already. The only thing one may have learned here is the issues with UTEC. Other than that there's really nothing much to see here. IMO I think he finally realized like WTF over $13,000 why??? to get barely over 300whp NA on a FWD car. YEa it's different yippie. Ok now time to sell and get a real sports car. I'm sure he'll explain his exact reasons or not, it's up to him.
I'm sure he'll explain his exact reasons or not, it's up to him.If you got out the **** money then go for it I mean all the way. I think everyone should realize here is that VQ's are pretty much maxed out geometry wise. At the end of the day it all comes down to how much you really want it. Because trying to squeeze out anything over 280whp with a FWD VQ35 maxima takes a whole lot of money and your commitment better be there or else, you already know.....You'll end up selling it all for a RWD German sports car.
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01-10-2011, 08:47 AM
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01-10-2011, 08:52 AM
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Very true that this has all been done before many times over with the RWD platform. Now i'm not sure what their issues with the UTEC actually were, but quite a few of us are successfully using them, so I don't think he really "discovered" any issues.
I believe JayPee has already proven that you can make 300whp on a budget out of these engines. Hopefully others will be doing the same thing soon. A full set of the right boltons + tuning + cams and supporting mods (rod bolts, valvesprings) seems to be a good recipe for a 300whp VQ35DE while being much cheaper than a build, especially if you get parts used and do your own work. Doing a full build really doesn't gain you much for power unless you're going up in stroke/bore, compression makes for relatively small gains. You won't catch me dead in a german sports car
I believe JayPee has already proven that you can make 300whp on a budget out of these engines. Hopefully others will be doing the same thing soon. A full set of the right boltons + tuning + cams and supporting mods (rod bolts, valvesprings) seems to be a good recipe for a 300whp VQ35DE while being much cheaper than a build, especially if you get parts used and do your own work. Doing a full build really doesn't gain you much for power unless you're going up in stroke/bore, compression makes for relatively small gains. You won't catch me dead in a german sports car
Well there you go Jaypee has already done it but I'm sure it's still up there cost wise for most people. Yea if you can do the work yourself it's a huge plus, especially on NA builds.
Puhlease you know if you had the money you would be all up in a 2010 M3.
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01-10-2011, 08:57 AM
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01-10-2011, 09:10 AM
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But if you get a vette you gotta grow a mullet. lol
I know what you mean tho I drove a 10 sec Vette I was sold right on the spot. I didn't buy the car but did get an LS1 and now full est. 550hp built LS2 motor but don't know what to throw it in yet,I sold my S14 shell which was going to be the transplant victim. When you get engaged everything changes money wise.
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01-10-2011, 09:16 AM
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But if you get a vette you gotta grow a mullet. lol
I know what you mean tho I drove a 10 sec Vette I was sold right on the spot. I didn't buy the car but did get an LS1 and now full est. 550hp built LS2 motor but don't know what to throw it in yet,I sold my S14 shell which was going to be the transplant victim. When you get engaged everything changes money wise I hope I win the Lotto.
I know what you mean tho I drove a 10 sec Vette I was sold right on the spot. I didn't buy the car but did get an LS1 and now full est. 550hp built LS2 motor but don't know what to throw it in yet,I sold my S14 shell which was going to be the transplant victim. When you get engaged everything changes money wise I hope I win the Lotto.
A FD RX-7 would be cool too. Or for super lightweight, a FB RX-7... 2200lbs to start ftw.
01-10-2011, 10:43 AM
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Goes to show NA builds can be very expensive and in most cases such as this the owner/builder will end up giving up. In result selling everything or most of it to lower debt owed or simply lack of funds to continue.
Gotta commit when doing something like this but hey things happen.
Gotta commit when doing something like this but hey things happen.
01-10-2011, 10:48 AM
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Oh ok that's cool. So you paid for your new house cash? No School loans credit cards or anything? If so that's awesome lucky you.
Was trying to say in most cases not specifically yours but more of an example. I mean you did talk about how you were not to happy about spending $7k and more...... just saying
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01-10-2011, 10:58 AM
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I beg to differ his build was based on proven off the shelf parts already. The only thing one may have learned here is the issues with UTEC. Other than that there's really nothing much to see here. IMO I think he finally realized like WTF over $10,000 why??? to get barely over 300whp NA on a FWD car. YEa it's different yippie. Ok now time to sell and get a real sports car. I'm sure he'll explain his exact reasons or not, it's up to him.
The doubt of him finishing for me was there all along.
If you got out the **** money then go for it I mean all the way. I think everyone should realize here is that VQ's are pretty much maxed out geometry wise. At the end of the day it all comes down to how much you really want it. Because trying to squeeze out anything over 280whp with a FWD VQ35 maxima takes a whole lot of money and your commitment better be there or else, you already know.....You'll end up selling it all for a RWD German sports car.
Nice try tho, family first congrats on the new home Deckdout2.
I'm sure he'll explain his exact reasons or not, it's up to him.The doubt of him finishing for me was there all along.
If you got out the **** money then go for it I mean all the way. I think everyone should realize here is that VQ's are pretty much maxed out geometry wise. At the end of the day it all comes down to how much you really want it. Because trying to squeeze out anything over 280whp with a FWD VQ35 maxima takes a whole lot of money and your commitment better be there or else, you already know.....You'll end up selling it all for a RWD German sports car.
Nice try tho, family first congrats on the new home Deckdout2.
Everyone is so quick to judge and be very "internet" opinionated when it comes to stuff like this. Just appreciate someone else's work that they've put the time into and just let it be what it is.
I don't dislike you for your comments, and you are entitle to them for sure. But, if you're looking for justification of actions, I'm not sure you'll find it here.
Love the new house btw, thanks.
01-10-2011, 11:00 AM
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Oh ok that's cool. So you paid for your new house cash? No School loans credit cards or anything? If so that's awesome lucky you.
Was trying to say in most cases not specifically yours but more of an example. I mean you did talk about how you were not to happy about spending $7k and more...... just saying
Was trying to say in most cases not specifically yours but more of an example. I mean you did talk about how you were not to happy about spending $7k and more...... just saying
01-10-2011, 11:09 AM
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Does it really matter, why? Any of it, anything you've mentioned above, other then the fact that it gives you the opportunity to sit back and try to decipher what's going through my mind, and nitpick the actions that I decide to make? Who cares? It's my money, I don't consider it a waste from the knowledge I've gathered out of this build, and it wasn't certainly to impress anyone else other then myself. When you can put up your own time, your own money, and your own reasons to do a build to this extent, then you can judge for yourself. So sorry, trying to be the voice of reason in my thread about the decisions I do and do not make is not going to matter to me, or change the recourse of my actions, nor do I really care. Not at my age, and my goals in life.
Everyone is so quick to judge and be very "internet" opinionated when it comes to stuff like this. Just appreciate someone else's work that they've put the time into and just let it be what it is.
I don't dislike you for your comments, and you are entitle to them for sure. But, if you're looking for justification of actions, I'm not sure you'll find it here.
Love the new house btw, thanks.
Everyone is so quick to judge and be very "internet" opinionated when it comes to stuff like this. Just appreciate someone else's work that they've put the time into and just let it be what it is.
I don't dislike you for your comments, and you are entitle to them for sure. But, if you're looking for justification of actions, I'm not sure you'll find it here.
Love the new house btw, thanks.
That's all cool but this is a public forum there maybe things you disagree with but that's all cool. So I gave my opinion in a polite manner that's all. Sorry you seem upset.
01-10-2011, 11:12 AM
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My original statement was geared towards general debt.
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01-10-2011, 11:17 AM
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Just wanted to add that the 10,000 dollar build was not JUST for 300whp NA. It was built enough to take a 200 shot or bigger without trouble. I hope whoever does buy this engine uses it to its full potential, not just NA.
If you don't understand what would make him upset about your assumptions and prying then you're a bit less intelligent than you try to convey.
If you don't understand what would make him upset about your assumptions and prying then you're a bit less intelligent than you try to convey.
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01-10-2011, 11:20 AM
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Just wanted to add that the 10,000 dollar build was not JUST for 300whp NA. It was built enough to take a 200 shot or bigger without trouble. I hope whoever does buy this engine uses it to its full potential, not just NA.
If you don't understand what would make him upset about your assumptions and prying then you're a bit less intelligent than you try to convey.
If you don't understand what would make him upset about your assumptions and prying then you're a bit less intelligent than you try to convey.
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01-10-2011, 11:31 AM
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Goes to show NA builds can be very expensive and in most cases such as this the owner/builder will end up giving up. In result selling everything or most of it to lower debt owed or simply lack of funds to continue.
Gotta commit when doing something like this but hey things happen.
Gotta commit when doing something like this but hey things happen.