470cc Fuel Injectors on stock fuel pump?
Would this cause any issues on the stock fuel pump or would I need to go with a walbro.
I'm looking to install Cobra fuel injectors to compensate for the larger MAF (3.5" soon to be 4") and keep my timing curve up. I have a VAFC2 to trim if I run a little rich with the 3.5" MAF. |
are you boosted?
if not, you likely wont need the fuel demand and thus wont ever max out the 470's and thus wont need a bigger fp |
Correct, but by increasing fuel on the VAFC2 you are effectively lowering your timing curve. By using larger injectors with a larger MAF and some math you can bring your timing curve back and by not having to add fuel. Its been proven on the altima forums with the 440s.
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you have a 5ht gen or a 5.5?? i plan on doing the same (ford 40lbs inj,with a cobra or lighting 4" maf) on a 4th gen ECU,i dont think it matters what FP you use ,is the injectors the ones that flow more and the pump will only be keeping static pressure
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5.5g with every bolt on, I can tell when I add fuel my timing is being retarded, this is probably the hardware way of fixing it...I could go utec or vmanage.
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im using the same style...using DE-K injectors at 60psi of fuel pressure and a Q45 maf,.... i have to take like 5% across the entire powerband
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I have to add quite a bit of fuel with vafc. Like high 20s at idle and it lowers as i go to redline.
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My 440's with 3" MAF requires little to no fuel, in fact, it's about 12.5 @ WOT and normal everywhere else, so I remove a bit to get it to 13 or so @ WOT. Also, like Kev's stated, unless you're pushing upwards of 280+ dynojet FWHP, you'll be fine with the OEM FP.
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
(Post 8679788)
My 440's with 3" MAF requires little to no fuel, in fact, it's about 12.5 @ WOT and normal everywhere else, so I remove a bit to get it to 13 or so @ WOT. Also, like Kev's stated, unless you're pushing upwards of 280+ dynojet FWHP, you'll be fine with the OEM FP.
This is my maf (math) to bring it back to stock spec (which would be rich cause of headers): 315/2.75 = 114.5 470/4 = 117.5 |
Yup, but we then have the factor of the IN/OUT settings of the SAFCII vs the VAFC.
Like I said, I had to change my in/out to 1/1 because without that, the 440's I had to remove 27% or more just to be in the low to mid 12's @ WOT, don't even get me started on normal driving. And yeah, you say my graphs from the 3" to 3.5", and 0 to -10-12% timing affect. From what I've seen the IN/OUT does not affect the timing curve, only the actual +/- correction does. So, in short, yeah that math looks valid, I have yet to install the 4" though. |
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