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Norm Peterson Dec 3, 2002 10:29 AM

CD-R's and 20AE CD single player
 
From what I've read in the owner's manual (20AE) the use of CD-R's isn't recommended in the player (single disc). Later on in the same section a method of smoothing rough disc edges is provided. Some people apparently do not have trouble while others do. I'm looking to condense my CD library (too many ~35 minute discs) and edit out some tracks that are not, shall I say, suitable for all audiences (and sometimes my granddaughter is present).

So,

(1) Is the disc edge roughness a problem that anybody has specifically identified and dealt with? Is it more likely and/or worse with good quality CD-R's than on store-bought CD's?

(2) Should the disc capacity be limited to 74 minute media?

(3) How much advantage (if any) is there to using media specifically identified as "music" or "audio"?

(4) Does it make any difference what specific software is used. I have an 800 MHz Duron/512MB system running Win98? (Yes, there is a reason for that OS.)


Norm

20AE 5-speed
’79 Malibu (too unstock for SCCA Street Mod)

Drakul Dec 3, 2002 07:59 PM

Re: CD-R's and 20AE CD single player
 

Originally posted by Norm Peterson
(1) Is the disc edge roughness a problem that anybody has specifically identified and dealt with? Is it more likely and/or worse with good quality CD-R's than on store-bought CD's?

(2) Should the disc capacity be limited to 74 minute media?

(3) How much advantage (if any) is there to using media specifically identified as "music" or "audio"?

(4) Does it make any difference what specific software is used. I have an 800 MHz Duron/512MB system running Win98? (Yes, there is a reason for that OS.)


Norm

20AE 5-speed
’79 Malibu (too unstock for SCCA Street Mod)


I use 80 minute memorex cd-r and have had mixed luck. for the most part they work fine, but I get a bad track every now and then that I have to assume is something due to my computer during the burn. (running ME on a 1.4ghz with 256mb RAM) I did have to reburn all my cd's from WAV files after I upgraded my system because I could hear the dropouts and artifacts from the mp3 compression. I tried a higher mp3 rate first and was still not satisfied with the sound quality.

Norm Peterson Dec 5, 2002 08:37 AM

Re: Re: CD-R's and 20AE CD single player
 

Originally posted by Drakul
I did have to reburn all my cd's from WAV files after I upgraded my system because I could hear the dropouts and artifacts from the mp3 compression. I tried a higher mp3 rate first and was still not satisfied with the sound quality.
Thanks.

What do those 'defects' show up as? I'm just starting to explore this stuff, and I currently have more time to understand what's going to work than I have $ to do independent trial and error with.

Norm

Drakul Dec 7, 2002 12:01 PM

Re: Re: Re: CD-R's and 20AE CD single player
 

Originally posted by Norm Peterson
Thanks.

What do those 'defects' show up as? I'm just starting to explore this stuff, and I currently have more time to understand what's going to work than I have $ to do independent trial and error with.

Norm

Usually they are tone or volume variations, sometimes you get small gaps in the music or a click or popping noise. I'm starting to think that most of mine are caused by the volume leveling sofware when I burn songs from several discs onto one. Now I just have to decide which is more annoying, the defects, or the volume changes from one track to the next. :(

AudioAltima Dec 7, 2002 04:30 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: CD-R's and 20AE CD single player
 

Originally posted by Drakul


Usually they are tone or volume variations, sometimes you get small gaps in the music or a click or popping noise. I'm starting to think that most of mine are caused by the volume leveling sofware when I burn songs from several discs onto one. Now I just have to decide which is more annoying, the defects, or the volume changes from one track to the next. :(

most probably. Some mp3s seem to be compressed with crap quality, although uncompressing it wont help. you'd need the original source to fix any imperfections. anyways, with a properly compressed mp3 compared to the original, you shouldn't be able to tell the difference, since out ears cant really pick it up!

ThurzNite Dec 7, 2002 08:10 PM

For quality cds @ a reasonable price, goto www.pricewatch.com and search for Taiyo Yuden, 100pk 80min cdr for $35 shipped. Can't go wrong w/taiyo yuden. Whatever you do, don't buy Ritek!!! I bought a 100pk for $22 and regret it big time. 1 out of 6 cds don't burn correctly. That's just for data. I think for audio, it might be a lil better. However, the disc smoothness is another factor. Put 2 cds on top of each other and slide them...the Riteks are rough and gritty. The Taiyo Yuden ones (TDK is usually Taiyo Yuden) are smooth and slick sliding. I've never had a problem w/TDK, even on 1980s walkman, which are very very finiky (I heard new cds with copy protection don't work on the old walkmans)
Jae

Norm Peterson Dec 11, 2002 06:13 AM

Thanks, guys :)


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