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skierxx5556 Nov 18, 2005 09:03 PM

Who has 8's in there doors?
 
Hey guys im looking for some pics of people with 8's in their doors...

MacAlert Nov 19, 2005 07:16 AM

Don has it, Manny has it, I think bboystevie & metal maxima have it. Ask them for pics.

BBOYSTEVIE Nov 19, 2005 07:48 AM

Yeah and I took pics and I think somehow deleted them without uploading...so I won't have pics till i open my doors back up :( sorry

they're biggies too :) I can't believe I never uploaded them :(

Manny definately does. Don has at the very least. I think he may be running Dyn 7's in his doors now.

Edit: Hey I found em!!!!!!!! Get em up in a few ::

BBOYSTEVIE Nov 19, 2005 08:11 AM

The midbasses: Peerless XLS 8's (Actually HDS 8's but they're being called XLS's). Here they are next to my old Seas CA 18 RNX's. The RNX's are a beefy 6.5 midbass driver, so you can see how large these babys are compared to them :)

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...s/000_0063.jpg


Had to trim just a lil metal to get the baskets to fit in there. These are actually 9's if you wanna get technical. Friggen Monsters :) Baffle out of 2 3/4" pieces of MDF glued together.


http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...s/000_0075.jpg

BBOYSTEVIE Nov 19, 2005 08:15 AM

And on they go!

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...s/000_0077.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...s/000_0079.jpg

Worthless pic to show the stock door panel back on.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...s/000_0083.jpg

skierxx5556 Nov 19, 2005 09:52 AM

Steve your the man thats exactly what I was looking for some guy on ca.com didnt believe me that you could fit 8's in the door of a maxima.

machinehead Nov 19, 2005 10:10 AM

8's definitely fit, little modification. I'll have 8's soon....

Apollos2 Nov 19, 2005 11:27 AM

Wow, :eek: Those 8's must pound the heck out of your doors. Since the 8 is more like a midbass than midrange, what else are you running up front?

Apollos2 Nov 19, 2005 11:28 AM

Wow, :eek: Those 8's must pound the heck out of your doors. Since the 8 is more like a midbass than midrange, what else are you running up front?
I just see a tweeter.

BBOYSTEVIE Nov 19, 2005 11:40 AM

Well before for a little while I played with Dayton Reference 5's and ribbons in kicks, but I'm moving to horns under the dash and efficient midranges in the kicks. The midranges are supposed to be kinda big, but I get them this week so we'll see how that goes. It should be a very "dynamic" front stage if it every gets done....

The doors are VERY well deadened. Any problems I'm having is with the door panel, and once everything else is all complete, theres a few things I can do to take care of that.

slickrick Nov 19, 2005 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by skierxx5556
Steve your the man thats exactly what I was looking for some guy on ca.com didnt believe me that you could fit 8's in the door of a maxima.

thats why i do not post on ca.com...full of people who ride the short bus daily.

8's look good. :)

Cant_Get_Ryte Nov 19, 2005 06:37 PM

so stevie,
Would you recommend the peerless over the seas? im looking at the 8s listed in the other setup, i picked up my new sub today and will have my other sub amp this week :evil: probably finish the driver side kick tommorrow so im curious.

BBOYSTEVIE Nov 19, 2005 08:09 PM


Originally Posted by Cant_Get_Ryte
so stevie,
Would you recommend the peerless over the seas? im looking at the 8s listed in the other setup, i picked up my new sub today and will have my other sub amp this week :evil: probably finish the driver side kick tommorrow so im curious.

I don't know the rest of your system. What's going in kicks? If you're playing the 8 exclusively as midbass, I'd def. say the peerless of the two, or maybe consider one of the many other 8" midbass options. If you're running it as a midbass/midrange in a two way, well, the Peerless isn't gong to give you the best midrange. I was real impressed with the Seas as far as a combo of midbass and articulate midrange at a great price. Really good midbass for a 6.5, but could never compare to the amount of air an 8 like this can move. Really depends on the rest of your system. I'll prolly pikc up the old IDQ 8 DVC 4 ohm if I come up with one so I can run at 2 ohms, get the most out of my amps, and attempt to brand match a little more.

MannyNJ2k2max Nov 19, 2005 08:18 PM

Damn Steve! Cant wait to hear those XLS!!

Anyhow, here goes a 5th gen...:)
Morel 8's....actually 8 3/4's...

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...3_274_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...3_275_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...3_267_full.jpg

Cant_Get_Ryte Nov 20, 2005 02:14 AM


Originally Posted by BBOYSTEVIE
I don't know the rest of your system. What's going in kicks? If you're playing the 8 exclusively as midbass, I'd def. say the peerless of the two, or maybe consider one of the many other 8" midbass options. If you're running it as a midbass/midrange in a two way, well, the Peerless isn't gong to give you the best midrange. I was real impressed with the Seas as far as a combo of midbass and articulate midrange at a great price. Really good midbass for a 6.5, but could never compare to the amount of air an 8 like this can move. Really depends on the rest of your system. I'll prolly pikc up the old IDQ 8 DVC 4 ohm if I come up with one so I can run at 2 ohms, get the most out of my amps, and attempt to brand match a little more.

nah, using a set of polk momos currently. those will migrate to the kicks in the next couple of weeks. Im finishing the other kick panel currently. I thought about going with the kicker rmb8 as i was really happy with the rmb6s in my other car. :noes: seems their discontinued so im searching.
my doors are pretty much as deadened and sealed as they are gonna get :D, and im happy with the response from the 6.5s in there now, but need a little more kick.

BBOYSTEVIE Nov 20, 2005 04:48 AM

Then I'd say go for 8's. Many to chose from. I got these cause they were cheap and have gotten great reviews. They're sold on www.diymobileaudio.com . DLS, Morel, Dyn, Illusion, JL IB4 if you can find them, OZ (if you can find them), and don't rule out the Dayton Reference 8 of course as a cost effective option among others I'm prolly forgetting, including offerings from the raw driver companies vifa/scan/peerless. For instance, Seas just came out with a CA22RNX. I guess a bigger more manly version of the CA18 that I loved. That would have to do a great job too...http://www.madisound.com/cgi-bin/ind....3478&pid=1944


Like I said, I was real impressed with the seas as far as midbass output for a 6...also with the DLS Iridium with a lot of power.....

Good luck!

Metal Maxima Nov 20, 2005 06:17 AM

I don't have 8s yet...but I am strongly considering running the Adire Audio Extremis in the doors. Not sure yet. I listened to Manny and Don's system yesterday, and it has shattered my SQ standards beyond anything I could have ever imagined. I'm probably going to be changing the WHOLE system...lol.

BBOYSTEVIE Nov 20, 2005 06:32 AM

hahah I was waiting for that response from you after hearing some nice SQ systems. You've got the glass skills and the patience to make a great SQ systems. Now you've had the exposure to them!

So, are you looking at a 3 way front stage now?

Come Springtime I shoud be ready and willing to come up there for a mini meet, given that it's you, chu, don (who I've yet to meet personallY) manny and not a gangsta SPL meet. I'd love to hear the dyn system and whatever Manny and you have going on by then and WILL have my more final version of my system done, tuned, and cleaned up. If we have one down here my way, we could get a World Champ car here to compare to. It always leaves me nice and depressed and grounded when I start thinking my stuff sounds good.

Metal Maxima Nov 20, 2005 07:01 AM

Yeah, I hear ya man. I am completley changing my system around now. I will indeed be going active 3-way. Don has been so gracious as to allow me use some of his tools, and exposed me to some materials that will allow me to be more creative with everything...we're talking some very intense project coming up. :hyper: After hearing their systems, ugh, I feel so small time. I would be down for a springtime SQ meet, count me in. :nod:

Pearl96Max Nov 20, 2005 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by BBOYSTEVIE
hahah I was waiting for that response from you after hearing some nice SQ systems. You've got the glass skills and the patience to make a great SQ systems. Now you've had the exposure to them!

So, are you looking at a 3 way front stage now?

Come Springtime I shoud be ready and willing to come up there for a mini meet, given that it's you, chu, don (who I've yet to meet personallY) manny and not a gangsta SPL meet. I'd love to hear the dyn system and whatever Manny and you have going on by then and WILL have my more final version of my system done, tuned, and cleaned up. If we have one down here my way, we could get a World Champ car here to compare to. It always leaves me nice and depressed and grounded when I start thinking my stuff sounds good.

Im always down for a meet, by then I should have a HU finally. Unfortunately when Dan came by I still had/have my stock HU running everything. WHich in turn really breaks my heart running a Dyn setup.

Emilios over at Dyn is going to give me some other points to try with the crossover setting, but wants me to have about 60-80hrs on em....

Chu is on his way up now, so maybe well just play a bit. :D

BBOYSTEVIE Nov 20, 2005 09:46 AM

Have fun. Man I wish I was closer. We'd have lotsa fun :) Can't wait to hear the dyn setup. I'm already a fan as you know....

It's a nice day for installing too. By the way, does your garage have heat? If so, it may be worth me taking a trip up there in the winter if we could work something out like Chu is with you. Freezing temps does not equal me working slowly and patiently.

Pearl96Max Nov 20, 2005 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by BBOYSTEVIE
Have fun. Man I wish I was closer. We'd have lotsa fun :) Can't wait to hear the dyn setup. I'm already a fan as you know....

It's a nice day for installing too. By the way, does your garage have heat? If so, it may be worth me taking a trip up there in the winter if we could work something out like Chu is with you. Freezing temps does not equal me working slowly and patiently.


Yes it would be great if you were closer. Between Manny,Chu,Dan and yourself we could all have abunch of fun, just dunno if we'd actually get work done. ;)

Yes sir, just freshed insulated and sheetrocked. Central air and Always heat. With plenty of lighting. :D

Pearl96Max Nov 20, 2005 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by MannyNJ2k2max
Damn Steve! Cant wait to hear those XLS!!

Anyhow, here goes a 5th gen...:)
Morel 8's....actually 8 3/4's...


http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...3_267_full.jpg

Hey you better stop showing my lil arms off. :nervous: :D

sickmax Nov 22, 2005 03:06 PM

did u have to dynomat the sh!t outta ur doors??

adampit Nov 22, 2005 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by Metal Maxima
I don't have 8s yet...but I am strongly considering running the Adire Audio Extremis in the doors. Not sure yet. I listened to Manny and Don's system yesterday, and it has shattered my SQ standards beyond anything I could have ever imagined. I'm probably going to be changing the WHOLE system...lol.


Where can i hear these systems, i am really wanting to change up my whole system and i want to make it extreme SQ. I hear don's place is like new york somewhere. I would be willing to drive to his shop.

Metal Maxima Nov 22, 2005 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by adampit
Where can i hear these systems, i am really wanting to change up my whole system and i want to make it extreme SQ. I hear don's place is like new york somewhere. I would be willing to drive to his shop.

Edison, NJ

BBOYSTEVIE Nov 22, 2005 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by sickmax
did u have to dynomat the sh!t outta ur doors??

YES...raamat and ensolite for me. Second skin for some of the other folks...but well deadened all of them....It's a must even with 6.5 midbass drivers.

Batxel Nov 23, 2005 04:38 PM

what xovers are you guys using? or are you building them yourselves?

It looks like I have to move up to 8's becuase CDT's suck at midbass

:tribe:

MannyNJ2k2max Nov 23, 2005 07:11 PM

Anyone willing to take a ride to Don's or meet me period locally...I would more than happily audition my system..

Pearl96Max Nov 23, 2005 10:20 PM


Originally Posted by Batxel
what xovers are you guys using? or are you building them yourselves?

It looks like I have to move up to 8's becuase CDT's suck at midbass

:tribe:

Im using an Arc DXE, Steve is using a P9? or 9255? I cant keep track anymore which one, and Manny is using well....a whole bunch of things. Lets call him Hybrid. :D

In other words...no passives here, everything is active.

'96MaxGLE Nov 23, 2005 10:34 PM

I'll b running 8's soon. Steve did you get the pad that's behind the speaker from partsexpress? I can't remember what they're called...

Manny, how do you like those Morels? I'm still trying to get some more opinions on what midbass to use, since I haven't personally heard a lot of the ones I'm looking at.

BBOYSTEVIE Nov 24, 2005 03:46 AM

It's called a deflex pad. I got it from...ummm I forget right now. Parts express apparently has them in a pretty red color....

http://www.partsexpress.com/webpage....ctGroup_ID=368

Was using a Clarion 9255. In the process of switching to the Alpine H701 combo setup for processing. :)

PS...new word on the street is that the Dayton References will be avaliable in 4 ohm versions as of January. Including the 8. Hard to be the quality of these at the price....

MannyNJ2k2max Nov 24, 2005 05:17 AM


Originally Posted by '96MaxGLE
I'll b running 8's soon. Steve did you get the pad that's behind the speaker from partsexpress? I can't remember what they're called...

Manny, how do you like those Morels? I'm still trying to get some more opinions on what midbass to use, since I haven't personally heard a lot of the ones I'm looking at.

I love'm , especially for dedicated midbass on 3way fronstage. Under 2way they were good, but not super impressive in the upper midrange. There's only so much you can expect out of a large driver to cover, thats why 3way is the shiznit. But if i were to do it again, knowing i was going 3way, i would've went with another version of the driver that comes in 4ohm-like the much cheaper mw266 or mw265.

505max94se Nov 24, 2005 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by BBOYSTEVIE
It's called a deflex pad. I got it from...ummm I forget right now. Parts express apparently has them in a pretty red color....

http://www.partsexpress.com/webpage....ctGroup_ID=368

Was using a Clarion 9255. In the process of switching to the Alpine H701 combo setup for processing. :)

PS...new word on the street is that the Dayton References will be avaliable in 4 ohm versions as of January. Including the 8. Hard to be the quality of these at the price....

I've heard good things about the deflex pads and I'm thinking about getting them. What's your opinion on these? Do they really help?

BBOYSTEVIE Nov 24, 2005 05:05 PM

I'll be honest and say I haven't done an A/B test to have any educated opinion. At the least, I'd dampen the heck out of the area behind the speakers and use some sort of foam/ensolite at the least. I just decided that while I was treating my doors, I wanted to do everything possible to ensure the job was done right, so I put em there just incase there'd be an improvement.

I've heard plenty of systems without them that sound phenomonal.

'96MaxGLE Nov 24, 2005 09:38 PM

I've heard that some ppl perfer egg crate over the deflex pad...u have any experience with the egg crate?

Manny...I think I'm going to try running dual 8ohm drivers n each door, now that I've said that I know u guys r gonna hold me to that :) . Money permitting that's what I'm planning on doing, but may have to only run 1 8" per door for now, cause I really wanna get my horns installed ASAP. I'll have pics of them on the 29th guys...

BBOYSTEVIE Nov 24, 2005 10:12 PM

I'd worry about the egg crates picking up and retaining moisture.......but I'm sure they'd work well....

Tony Fernandes Nov 25, 2005 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by skierxx5556
Hey guys im looking for some pics of people with 8's in their doors...

Hey skierxx, hope these pics help. These Dynaudio MW170 8-inchers barely fit in my 2001, but they fit:

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...50_89_full.jpg http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...50_87_full.jpg

Here's a pic of the MDF baffle. The one on the left has a cover over it to simulate the extra thickness of the cone's travel at maximum excursion (I put the baffle in the door and then put the door panel on to make sure everything would fit beforehand):
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...50_85_full.jpg

And here's a pic of the inside of the door panel. I had to cut everything away with the red arrows pointing to them in order get them to fit:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...50_86_full.jpg

'96MaxGLE Nov 25, 2005 09:15 AM

Good looking DYNs Tony....awesome setup.

skierxx5556 Nov 25, 2005 11:33 AM

That does look nice!! Are those custom kicks or the Qlogic ones?


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