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ElVito1981 Apr 24, 2006 08:23 AM

i've decided on my new setup
 
ok, i've decided on the following:

1) Eclipse CD1000 (I know the specs aren't as good as the higher end units, but I don't wanna pay for all those extra features--satellite radio ready, HD radio ready, GPS navigation, extra preouts, etc.--that I won't even use)

2) Audison LRx 2.500 amp (200 watts RMS x 2)

3) Dynaudio System 360 3-way components

6SpeedTA95 Apr 24, 2006 08:37 AM

So you're just getting component speakers and a deck? Keeping the rest of the system intact or are you just gonna run 2 speakers?

nismos14 Apr 24, 2006 08:52 AM

If you're going to be getting such nice comp's and a good amp PLEASE get a better unit with a stronger output voltage. The 2000 is not that much of a step up in price. If your getting the rest of your stuff from Don get the CD2000 from him too.

Pearl96Max Apr 24, 2006 09:21 AM

I advised him the same. Also that the Dyns are power hungry. I ran 880 to mine and they couldve taken more and smiled.

nismos14 Apr 24, 2006 09:22 AM

2.5 volts FTL :(

ElVito1981 Apr 24, 2006 09:28 AM

yeah you guys are right. I was just having second thoughts a moment ago. I'm gonna go with the Eclipse CD 5000. And as for the head unit, the most powerful 2-channel amp I could find is the Audison VRx 2400.2, which puts out 250 watts RMS per channel. Don if you could find a more powerful 2-channel, then I'll go with it.

nismos14 Apr 24, 2006 09:36 AM

Get a 4 channel and bridge it.

ElVito1981 Apr 24, 2006 10:04 AM

ok don, i just saw that the eclipse 34230 puts out 370 RMS per channel. Would that be a sufficent amount of power for the dyn 360s?

Pearl96Max Apr 24, 2006 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by nismos14
Get a 4 channel and bridge it.


bridging an amp often take away alot of the characteristics that make it what it is when dealing with upper tier products.

kpr10is Apr 24, 2006 10:09 AM

Sure, but you might try looking at current Eclipse models rather than old ones.

http://www.eclipse-web.com/amp/index.html

Pearl96Max Apr 24, 2006 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by ElVito1981
ok don, i just saw that the eclipse 34230 puts out 370 RMS per channel. Would that be a sufficent amount of power for the dyn 360s?


The Eclipses are nice, put I wouldnt put it against the likes of Audison,Brax/Helix, Genesis,Arc,etc..

kpr10is Apr 24, 2006 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by Pearl96Max
bridging an amp often take away alot of the characteristics that make it what it is when dealing with upper tier products.

Im doing it...

Pearl96Max Apr 24, 2006 10:11 AM

An Arc 2300SE would certainly do the job, but may be a bit out of your budget...

Pearl96Max Apr 24, 2006 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by kpr10is
Im doing it...


but you only have a Kicker. :surprised




:laugh:

kpr10is Apr 24, 2006 10:12 AM

Take it easy Mr. Pyramid Non-functional EQ Installation Specialist.

Pearl96Max Apr 24, 2006 10:15 AM

buahahahahaha I do what the customer wants. Nothing more, nothing less. ;)

nismos14 Apr 24, 2006 10:17 AM

Is that mainly due to the 4 channel running in mono and creating more distortion?

ElVito1981 Apr 24, 2006 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by Pearl96Max
The Eclipses are nice, put I wouldnt put it against the likes of Audison,Brax/Helix, Genesis,Arc,etc..


ok, it's down to either the Audison VRx 2.400.2 or the Arc Audio 2500-XXK (270 watts RMS per channel) Which one Don?

Pearl96Max Apr 24, 2006 10:23 AM

everytime your bridge an amp other factors will come into play..S/N,dampning,etc will all lower as well. Power typically doubles all others typically get cut in half. Not to mention your drawing more and putting more strain on the amp itself.

Pearl96Max Apr 24, 2006 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by ElVito1981
ok, it's down to either the Audison VRx 2.400.2 or the Arc Audio 2500-XXK (270 watts RMS per channel) Which one Don?


Like I posted above..2300SE. 2500XXK is no more.

nismos14 Apr 24, 2006 10:26 AM

Do it..... 2300 SE ftw.

6SpeedTA95 Apr 24, 2006 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by Pearl96Max
everytime your bridge an amp other factors will come into play..S/N,dampning,etc will all lower as well. Power typically doubles all others typically get cut in half. Not to mention your drawing more and putting more strain on the amp itself.

So is it not smart to bridge an amp? Almost everyone I know has their amp for their subs bridged but they dont bridge them on coaxials or components. :confused:

nismos14 Apr 24, 2006 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95
So is it not smart to bridge an amp? Almost everyone I know has their amp for their subs bridged but they dont bridge them on coaxials or components. :confused:

It's fine to bridge an amp to subs. For the components ideally you want the best possible signal to create the best possibly soundstage. Bridging just adds those other factors into the mix that are not ideal.

6SpeedTA95 Apr 24, 2006 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by nismos14
It's fine to bridge an amp to subs. For the components ideally you want the best possible signal to create the best possibly soundstage. Bridging just adds those other factors into the mix that are not ideal.

That makes sense then :)

ElVito1981 Apr 24, 2006 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by Pearl96Max
Like I posted above..2300SE. 2500XXK is no more.


Audison it is then. Give me please your prices on the VRx 2.400.2, the Eclipse CD5000, and the Dyn 360s.

Pearl96Max Apr 24, 2006 10:52 AM

VRX?? got that kinda money now?

slickrick Apr 24, 2006 10:52 AM

good choice on moving up with the h/u...your system is only as good as its weakest link.

ElVito1981 Apr 24, 2006 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by Pearl96Max
VRX?? got that kinda money now?

ok, guess not, what's your price on the LRx 2.500? Tweeter sells it for $800

Pearl96Max Apr 24, 2006 11:29 AM

IIRC somewhere around the low 600 range.

slickrick Apr 24, 2006 11:35 AM

damn what a deal...unexpected creations owns tweeter. ;)

djfrestyl Apr 24, 2006 12:59 PM

CD1000 is made by JVC...then branded with Eclipse logo. Food for thought...

nismos14 Apr 24, 2006 01:07 PM

Seriously? Hmm thats interesting to know. No wonder the specs are no where near the CD2000 even.

kpr10is Apr 24, 2006 02:26 PM

Yep. I too thought it was interesting putting up our CD1000 on display at my CC. Same harness, cage, chassis, and layout as JVC.

RIP Eclipse 1988-2005 :) (Even though I still like most of their stuff...for mainstream)

BBOYSTEVIE Apr 24, 2006 02:37 PM

Sounds like a nice setup. Good luck.

Yeah,LOTS of power to dyn's.

MannyNJ2k2max Apr 24, 2006 02:43 PM

If you are dealing with a 'good' 4ch amp with specs to spare, bridging is no biggie. However it becomes much more difficult to set up level/gainwise if you do not have the right tools to do so (o-scope/RTA..)

IMO for that set of components it doesnt get any better than an XXK2500 or a bridged xxk4150/Fd4150 to run passively. Headroom to spare, and midbass you will feel in your chest.

zgrm100 Apr 24, 2006 02:45 PM

Don Nilesh is currently bridging his Arc amp that I got on his Soundlines. Would you advise against doing that?

slickrick Apr 24, 2006 02:46 PM

they will be just fine.

ElVito1981 Apr 24, 2006 03:55 PM

the Eclipse CD5000 has a 24-bit DAC, however CDs are only 16-bit. So, isn't a 24-bit DAC really overkill? Also, anybody know what DACs the other Eclipse head units have?

kpr10is Apr 24, 2006 04:48 PM

Im bored................

http://www.eclipse-web.com/cd/images/cd1000.jpg

http://buy.overstock.com/images/products/L1012762.jpg

djfrestyl Apr 24, 2006 05:55 PM

Muahah. Same unit except for the layout of the long buttons on the bottom.


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