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98SEBlackMax 07-11-2009 10:35 PM

221.55 WHP / 207.52 WTQ VQ30DEK Swap
 
Figured I would dyno the DEK swap again to see what power its at.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y17...stDyno7-09.jpg

SAE corrected
4th gear pull
DEK swap, OEM DEK cams
'95 fed spec ECU
SMT-6 tuning
Adjustable FPR - return style
OEM NGK platinum plugs index matched
OEM DEK white dot coil packs
Amsoil intake & HTPerformance MAF adaptor with Frankencar midpipe
70mm Pathy TB
Port matched 2K VI (switch over around 4800 rpm)
5th gen lower with no swirl valves
Blehmco grounding kit
OEM flywheel & crank pulley with all ancilleries hooked up
2001 AE clutch setup
Cattman headers with the y-pipe part header wrapped
Resontated 2.5" test pipe wrapped with header wrap
2.5" LSS mandrel bent catback with it's resonator wrapped with header wrap
2.5" Remus muffler section
Amsoil engine and gear oil
51 pound tire/wheel combo - 17 x 8 MOMO arrows with 235/45/17 Falkens

SMT-6 tune @ 12.7 ~ 13.0 A/F and +10 timing

Conditions: 88.36 F, 29.70 in-Hg, Humidity: 23%, SAE 1.01 (500ft elevation)

t6378tp 07-11-2009 10:56 PM

damn I think thats the highest dek dyno #'s I've other than dandymax, do you plan to extend teh rev limit since that thing was still making power

btw great job on the engine bay

MoncefA33 07-11-2009 11:24 PM

I'm thinking cuz it was tuned with SMT-6 instead of an S/VAFC.

Dandy runs an EU (and so will I soon :) ).

Nice numbers! What's next for it?

98SEBlackMax 07-12-2009 09:48 AM

I'm waiting on those biki rom boards to come out so I can raise the rev limiter and re-tune with it. A 7200 rpm rev limit would help me alot.

The SMT-6 gets better results because it can advance timing as well as tune the A/F ratio. The EU is capable of doing the same and more.

For the future I may header wrap the secondaries and gasket match them, convert to a returnless fuel setup, and try those intake manifold spacers NWP is selling.

Product_Of_Korea 07-12-2009 11:05 AM

Yeah i agree i bet you have a extra 10 hp hiding still.

But those are some awsome #s for 3.0

DandyMax 07-12-2009 11:10 AM

Very good numbers for the setup Joe, that's about what I had with my DE+00VI.

Definitely needs more revs, and I'd be interested to see where the peak is... a lot of DEK dynos tend to peak a little lower than DE+00VI from what I've seen, but of course as you know there's more to it than just the cam difference.

Grand_hustle17 07-12-2009 01:41 PM

:eek: beautiful from the DE-K

QNO_A32 07-12-2009 02:13 PM

damn go 3.0L

Zack342 07-12-2009 03:34 PM

Joe.....Amazing however I am not surprised that motor has always been strong, I will catch up with you next time your in the area maybe you can take me for a spin.

Crusher103 07-12-2009 03:52 PM

damn thats solid, lol @ those torks its pretty much a line not even a curve

98SEBlackMax 07-12-2009 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by Crusher103 (Post 7111430)
damn thats solid, lol @ those torks its pretty much a line not even a curve

It is funny the TQ on this car makes it feel slow. Since there is no sudden surge of power the car feels slow and smooth on highway pulls, then the speed gets into the triple digits pretty quick. :laugh:

Grand_hustle17 07-12-2009 09:31 PM


Originally Posted by Zack342 (Post 7111404)
Joe.....Amazing however I am not surprised that motor has always been strong, I will catch up with you next time your in the area maybe you can take me for a spin.

quick question??? you have a link for that cattspeed Y-pipe that is listed in your sig???

JAMAICANLOVRBOY 07-12-2009 09:38 PM

wow very good numbers

Crusher103 07-13-2009 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by 98SEBlackMax (Post 7111734)
It is funny the TQ on this car makes it feel slow. Since there is no sudden surge of power the car feels slow and smooth on highway pulls, then the speed gets into the triple digits pretty quick. :laugh:

haha, thats what alot of people dont understand with the VQs i love it when people sit there and say 350Zs are slow and go on and on but its the power comes on soo smooth.

how easy is the SMT-6 to use and install, this is the first time im hearing about it, ur AFR is dead on through the whole powerband, it might be easier for people like me who dont want to go through the complications of the EU.

98SEBlackMax 07-13-2009 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by Crusher103 (Post 7112519)
haha, thats what alot of people dont understand with the VQs i love it when people sit there and say 350Zs are slow and go on and on but its the power comes on soo smooth.

how easy is the SMT-6 to use and install, this is the first time im hearing about it, ur AFR is dead on through the whole powerband, it might be easier for people like me who dont want to go through the complications of the EU.

SMT-6 is only 7 wires and needs a RF filter on the crank signal line so it takes a bit of time to setup right. I got mine to work in '05 and Kevlo had one before the EU that I got to work for him. He sold his setup to Otransedental (sp?) and it didn't work for him. I told him how to set it up and he didn't want to do it that way then i never heard back from him, so :gotme:

SMT-6 is limited in timing advance and it only works when the engine is not in closed loop. I only tune from 3500 rpm to redline and use the AFPR to tune fuel below that rpm range.

Kevlo911 07-13-2009 11:02 AM

That means I am making more than you right now :noes:

ajcool2 07-13-2009 11:44 AM

Nice numbers.

Nealoc187 07-16-2009 10:49 AM

man that 00vi flows, wish I had the patience to get it working on my 3.5 but i'll just put one on my turbo 3.0 instead hehe. awesome numbers.

nismology 07-16-2009 06:10 PM

Ahhhhhh the good 'ole 3.0. :cool:



Great #'s!

ghostmax301 07-16-2009 09:27 PM

nice numbers hopefully im somewhere around there

essential1 07-17-2009 06:30 AM

Thats what I love about the 00vi/dek. It just begs for more revs:)

KRRZ350 07-17-2009 04:33 PM

Nice numbers

Grand_hustle17 07-18-2009 11:32 AM

man, if companies paid as much attention to the VQ30DE-k motor like they did the VQ35... beautiful numbers buddy, i just come in this thread to just look at the sheet just because lol

98SEBlackMax 07-19-2009 08:16 AM

This engine never ceases to amaze me. Had a two day track event at New Jersey Motor Sports park in some pretty harsh conditions and the DEK held up nicely. The oil level didn't move at all and it felt good all thru the event. Now if I can get the rest of the damn car to hold up as well.

Nealoc187 07-20-2009 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by 98SEBlackMax (Post 7120960)
This engine never ceases to amaze me. Had a two day track event at New Jersey Motor Sports park in some pretty harsh conditions and the DEK held up nicely. The oil level didn't move at all and it felt good all thru the event. Now if I can get the rest of the damn car to hold up as well.

taurus SHO, what? lol

QNO_A32 07-20-2009 04:11 PM

cam it + extended redline would be win. your already sh1tting on 3/4 the 3.5's.....

Crusher103 07-20-2009 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by Nealoc187 (Post 7122495)
taurus SHO, what? lol

if u are not concerned about how ur car looks that is........

95maxrider 07-21-2009 02:23 PM

Wow, those are impressive numbers. I've always been curious about removing my swirl valves, but have never had a good enough reason to do it. Were you pleased with the results?

imdgk78 03-28-2011 12:28 PM

What is the chief reason for removing the swirl valves


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