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Cant_Get_Ryte 02-02-2014 11:21 PM

313hp/272TQ-All Motor-Stock Cam
 
http://forums.maxima.org/picture.php...ictureid=39183

So over the last couple of months been working on a little something to make my car a bit more enjoyable....Im completely happy now. This is without my cutout, so in the future looking at tuning for my cutout and installing a decent meth kit to see if i can wrangle a bit more out of the motor. As well have been talking to moores about the possibility of a larger y pipe for the cattmans, so time will tell.

Just for ****s and giggles I went ahead and ran it to 7400 to see exactly what she would do...and needless to say she pulled strong to redline even gaining a bit at the upper revs.

If you are considering building the DE i would have to say, that for the comparable price the swap to the better flowing Altima and Maxima 09+ Motors are definitely worth it. Literally with this build we put down 313 out of a motor that is rated at 290 CRANK WHP from the factory. That relates to about 370 Crank WHP...

Needless to say, props to darren and thank you again.

Discuss?



http://forums.maxima.org/picture.php...ictureid=38889

SpeedCrazie 02-03-2014 01:24 PM

NICE!!! Where is the mod list??

95naSTA 02-03-2014 06:27 PM

Nice numbers and redline action.

What does this work out to SAE corrected?

Any info on the tune? Similar cam timing maps to Darren? A/F during runs?

Rods03Max619 02-03-2014 09:54 PM

Damn very Nice Numbers...Congrats...:D

SurraTT 02-04-2014 04:28 PM

I was probably more excited then you Doug! haha


glad to be apart of the maxima community. Thanks to everyone that supports me and VoltageDrop.net

Crusher103 02-04-2014 05:12 PM

so what happens when a decent set of cams are added to the equation?

SurraTT 02-04-2014 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by Crusher103 (Post 8910985)
so what happens when a decent set of cams are added to the equation?

i'm working on that now. probably 413 whp :laugh:

t6378tp 02-05-2014 05:06 AM

congraz, putting those 350z boys to shame

MaxPR0908 02-05-2014 05:59 PM

excellent.. congrats to you and darren..

Cant_Get_Ryte 02-07-2014 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by SpeedCrazie (Post 8910357)
NICE!!! Where is the mod list??

Easy lol its in my sig with links but literally
CGR 4 inch intergrated maf housing
Haltech with Voltage Drop Harness for plug n play action
SSIM-A voltage drop original
Cattman Headers-3 Inch Exhaust- 3 Inch QTP Cutout which wasnt used
Unorthodox UDP
570 Injectors from a Gee Tee ARRRRRRRGH
255lph Warlboro
Stock Flywheel (Fidanza going on in the next couple weeks)

So Pretty much basic boltons.


Originally Posted by 95naSTA (Post 8910502)
Nice numbers and redline action.

What does this work out to SAE corrected?

Any info on the tune? Similar cam timing maps to Darren? A/F during runs?

Pretty much peaked at redline. About 296/268 SAE. Have the runfiles if you would like. Fuel didnt make much change leaning it out or enrichening, saw the most right about 13.2. Timing maps are similar to darrens. He did an initial tune and had darrens available they put down within 3hp of each other then he just started working. So darren was pretty close to begin with, and that dyno netted ~286/289 IIRC


Originally Posted by Rods03Max619 (Post 8910640)
Damn very Nice Numbers...Congrats...:D

Thanks brotha. Appreciate it.

Originally Posted by SurraTT (Post 8910960)
I was probably more excited then you Doug! haha
glad to be apart of the maxima community. Thanks to everyone that supports me and VoltageDrop.net

Moreso shocked than anything darren. Youve been hounding me since my auto build was at 225- Between Darren at Voltage Drop and Aaron at NWP got it up to 267 (WHICH WAS AMAAAAAZING)- then the prodding to get off my utech- Then the 6 Speed Swap was all the MD Max Guys- The credit for the 5.7 though goes back to Darren again. Thanks for a solid plan and the support man. Definitely.


Originally Posted by t6378tp (Post 8911192)
congraz, putting those 350z boys to shame

;) We try every DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY

Originally Posted by MaxPR0908 (Post 8911462)
excellent.. congrats to you and darren..

Thanks man. Thanks


Hoping to pick up a few lbs of TQ with the flywheel; and if God blesses me with a meth kit this summer could be pretty interesting, but the cams that came in the motor are definitely plenty for me lol.

95maxrider 02-10-2014 08:08 AM

Jesus that's impressive! Where in PG are you? I need to see this thing!

Cant_Get_Ryte 02-12-2014 09:23 AM

Upper Marlboro, Right outside of Andrews AFB.

ranmas2004 02-23-2014 11:43 AM

Still killen em!!

Cant_Get_Ryte 03-06-2014 02:16 PM

;)

clintb3astwood 03-08-2014 03:55 AM

Thuglas sands strikes, never cease to amaze dude. Now I wanna do a swap, in due time!

NmexMAX 04-03-2014 12:28 PM

I need to do exactly what has been done here.

clintb3astwood 04-13-2014 09:36 PM


Originally Posted by NmexMAX (Post 8936439)
I need to do exactly what has been done here.

6MT and 5.7 swap? Lol I need me a haltech to get my car where I want it

shredda 04-21-2014 06:58 PM

So tempting. Can you imagine this setup on a 6th gen? Ultimate sleeper.

NmexMAX 04-22-2014 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by shredda (Post 8943326)
So tempting. Can you imagine this setup on a 6th gen? Ultimate sleeper.

I'd say this set-up on a 4th gen would be the ultimate sleeper.

Fakie J Farkerton 04-22-2014 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by NmexMAX (Post 8943533)
I'd say this set-up on a 4th gen would be the ultimate sleeper.

:sprint:

Amerikaner83 04-22-2014 10:58 AM

:drool1:

Cant_Get_Ryte 04-29-2014 01:56 PM

lol thx..

SurraTT 05-05-2014 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by NmexMAX (Post 8943533)
I'd say this set-up on a 4th gen would be the ultimate sleeper.

i say 2ed gen, lolol. if i can find a 2ed gen like i started with ill do it....

1987 Silver mt

shredda 05-17-2014 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by NmexMAX (Post 8943533)
I'd say this set-up on a 4th gen would be the ultimate sleeper.


yea, but most people wouldn't expect a 6th gen to be fast.

maxima92se 05-18-2014 11:59 PM

I really like the numbers the 2009+ motor puts down. Instead of haltech go with the utec? Would that be feasible? I know haltech is the way to go but I didn't want to add a budget like that for my DD. Besides the price of the motor how much would a swap like this cost?

NmexMAX 05-21-2014 08:54 AM

UTEC wouldn't take advantage of the CVTC on both cams. I suppose a band aid for that would be a V-Manage. At that point, might as well just go with Haltech.

CMax03 05-31-2014 04:59 AM

Voltage Drop goodies and this 5.7 swap seem to be the answer! Why stray away from all the proven ingredients needed to get your A33 to that next level...Voltage Drop's system appears to be that Majic Gene bottle we've been needing to find those extra horses hidden away in the electronic management of these engines...I wonder how much power would be sacrificed using a stock 7th Gen IM? But would that stock 7th Gen IM provide a higher TQ output at the end of the day....with this 5.7 swap? The reason I say that is the 5.5th Gen with all that NWP block plate etc....lacked the lowend TQ that made the 5.5th Gen a blast to drive with the basic bolt-ons (Headers, Intake, etc)...I found keeping the OEM VIAS and adding a NWP spacer kit made the car feel even meaner in a DD type of way..and it pulled so much easier in the normal driving arena than ever before....So that made me curious on how it would perform on the 5.7th Gen setup...would the OEM IM make the car more BALLSY and only hurt the peak hp numbers or what? Just curious???

CMax03 05-31-2014 05:05 AM


Originally Posted by Cant_Get_Ryte (Post 8910143)
http://forums.maxima.org/picture.php...ictureid=39183

So over the last couple of months been working on a little something to make my car a bit more enjoyable....Im completely happy now. This is without my cutout, so in the future looking at tuning for my cutout and installing a decent meth kit to see if i can wrangle a bit more out of the motor. As well have been talking to moores about the possibility of a larger y pipe for the cattmans, so time will tell.

Just for ****s and giggles I went ahead and ran it to 7400 to see exactly what she would do...and needless to say she pulled strong to redline even gaining a bit at the upper revs.

If you are considering building the DE i would have to say, that for the comparable price the swap to the better flowing Altima and Maxima 09+ Motors are definitely worth it. Literally with this build we put down 313 out of a motor that is rated at 290 CRANK WHP from the factory. That relates to about 370 Crank WHP...

Needless to say, props to darren and thank you again.

Discuss?



http://forums.maxima.org/picture.php...ictureid=38889

What's the redline on the 7th Gen motor? Did you add ARP rod Bolts to your build? I was curious since you ran it up pretty high in the RPM's...

Black Trunk 06-11-2014 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by NmexMAX (Post 8943533)
I'd say this set-up on a 4th gen would be the ultimate sleeper.

This setup in a B13/14 would be better;).

Crusher103 06-11-2014 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by Black Trunk (Post 8960155)
This setup in a B13/14 would be better;).

:o you have read the name of this site havent you? In fact this setup in a shoehorned into a CRX>>>>>>all.

Quickywd01 06-20-2014 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by Crusher103 (Post 8960173)
:o you have read the name of this site havent you? In fact this setup in a shoehorned into a CRX>>>>>>all.

Mounted mid-engine, rwd, twin turbo...

Cant_Get_Ryte 07-01-2014 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by shredda (Post 8952567)
yea, but most people wouldn't expect a 6th gen to be fast.

Darryl Josephs did this at Pride Automotive LLC in Philly already ;)


Originally Posted by maxima92se (Post 8952910)
I really like the numbers the 2009+ motor puts down. Instead of haltech go with the utec? Would that be feasible? I know haltech is the way to go but I didn't want to add a budget like that for my DD. Besides the price of the motor how much would a swap like this cost?

get with Darren Surratt Voltage Drop


Originally Posted by NmexMAX (Post 8953712)
UTEC wouldn't take advantage of the CVTC on both cams. I suppose a band aid for that would be a V-Manage. At that point, might as well just go with Haltech.

good luck finding a vmanage, and then getting a shop to tune. We have a car that we just completed with a utec and vmanage setup, so we went with the altima motor due to only having the vmanage to control one set of cams (INTAKE). That little box is $500, puts you at 1100 just for cam control, thats HALTECH MONEY RIGHT THERE!!!!


Originally Posted by CMax03 (Post 8956715)
Voltage Drop goodies and this 5.7 swap seem to be the answer! Why stray away from all the proven ingredients needed to get your A33 to that next level...Voltage Drop's system appears to be that Majic Gene bottle we've been needing to find those extra horses hidden away in the electronic management of these engines...I wonder how much power would be sacrificed using a stock 7th Gen IM? But would that stock 7th Gen IM provide a higher TQ output at the end of the day....with this 5.7 swap? The reason I say that is the 5.5th Gen with all that NWP block plate etc....lacked the lowend TQ that made the 5.5th Gen a blast to drive with the basic bolt-ons (Headers, Intake, etc)...I found keeping the OEM VIAS and adding a NWP spacer kit made the car feel even meaner in a DD type of way..and it pulled so much easier in the normal driving arena than ever before....So that made me curious on how it would perform on the 5.7th Gen setup...would the OEM IM make the car more BALLSY and only hurt the peak hp numbers or what? Just curious???

Darren did all the comparisons with this and we also saw on the dyno with my boy chris's 5.7 swap. He ran a non SSIM manifold with the stock vias. ~286 hp. He topped out at 291 or so with all things considered, not bad but ehhhhhhh...Needless to saw we went right to a ssim for his car and hes...Happier lol.Retune coming soon. I also bested his tq numbers iirc. we both have since moved to other mods so itll be interesting to see how changes go now.


Originally Posted by CMax03 (Post 8956716)
What's the redline on the 7th Gen motor? Did you add ARP rod Bolts to your build? I was curious since you ran it up pretty high in the RPM's...

clevite bearings and arp bolts. We have a local thats been spinning his car to 7500 for about 4 years locally, this was to see what it would do, revs are at 7120 for daily use.

aic96max 07-23-2014 12:29 PM

Nice Numbers!!!

Cant_Get_Ryte 11-04-2014 11:22 AM

thx

Child_uv_KoRn 03-22-2016 11:26 PM

Are you still around?

Fakie J Farkerton 03-23-2016 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by Child_uv_KoRn (Post 9101543)
Are you still around?

PM him or hop on Facebook..he's always on there

zillafreak 03-24-2016 05:34 AM


Originally Posted by Cant_Get_Ryte (Post 8910143)

Literally with this build we put down 313 out of a motor that is rated at 290 CRANK WHP from the factory. That relates to about 370 Crank WHP...

Crank WHP.... new term.

WHP is wheel horsepower.

You just mean crank HP.

NmexMAX 03-24-2016 06:33 AM


Originally Posted by zillafreak (Post 9101725)
Crank WHP.... new term.

WHP is wheel horsepower.

You just mean crank HP.

:spit:

You know what he meant ... he knows what he's doing and wouldn't be bragging that he only gained ~25whp.

Even though you quoted him nearly 2 years after the fact, even back then he knew what he was doing.

But the fact states, car came 290 from the factory (crank), CGR and Darren both put 300+ whp, so that's an even bigger accomplishment.

:mrgone:

Cant_Get_Ryte 10-13-2017 08:10 PM

Ahhhhhhhh snap it's back... Time to work

max3.0vsgenesis3.8 04-23-2018 02:55 PM

nice numbers:new:
what 1/4 miles can be expected?


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