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Greeny Dec 9, 2007 07:01 PM

First!!!....Let's talk about torque wrenches?
 
Dedicated to irish44j..

thank you..;)

irish44j Dec 9, 2007 07:41 PM

second :goofy:

Greeny Dec 9, 2007 08:10 PM

So my wife bought me a new torque wrench for my b-day...(i broke my old one:hs:)

Craftsman 1/2" drive 20-150lb rating...yay:)

http://i18.tinypic.com/8fe3riq.jpg

irish44j Dec 9, 2007 08:24 PM

same one I have :woot:

although I managed to crack the locking collar on it by abusing it too much. Still works fine though, just doesn't lock as well.

Greeny Dec 9, 2007 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by irish44j (Post 6125897)
same one I have :woot:

although I managed to crack the locking collar on it by abusing it too much. Still works fine though, just doesn't lock as well.

this will prolly happen to me soon.:gapteeth:

Cutler Dec 9, 2007 10:26 PM

I own the same one but older model..

Puppetmaster Dec 10, 2007 07:05 AM


Originally Posted by irish44j (Post 6125897)
although I managed to crack the locking collar on it by abusing it too much. Still works fine though, just doesn't lock as well.

:sprint: mine did too and they won't replace it w/o a receipt, even though it is a "hand tool". Maybe I need try replacing mine again with some other person at Sears.

SEmy2K2go Dec 10, 2007 07:32 PM

I've got like 8 of those.


true story


:nervous:






well....one of them anyways.

BLACKonBLACK98 Dec 10, 2007 07:44 PM

looks like the one i have too, but i didn't get the nifty case i don't think.

Terrentius Dec 10, 2007 07:57 PM

I gotta get me one of them.....;)

aznsap Dec 10, 2007 08:10 PM

thats the one i have

goon9 Dec 10, 2007 08:10 PM

http://media3.dropshots.com/photos/1...211/105858.jpg
http://media4.dropshots.com/photos/1...211/105919.jpg
Mine :) :) :)

MrGone Dec 10, 2007 08:13 PM

Snap On Tech Wrench.jpg

irish44j Dec 10, 2007 08:16 PM

baller......

Greeny Dec 10, 2007 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by irish44j (Post 6127925)
baller......

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=547602

:bustrun:

BenStoked Dec 10, 2007 08:40 PM


Originally Posted by Puppetmaster (Post 6126370)
:sprint: mine did too and they won't replace it w/o a receipt, even though it is a "hand tool". Maybe I need try replacing mine again with some other person at Sears.

seems to be sears policy....
its total bull ****

irish44j Dec 10, 2007 08:46 PM

interesting....I originally had a craftsman 3/8" torque wrench, but the block sheared off when I was using it as a breaker bar (:mrgone:). I took it back and they didn't have another one, so they just gave me the 1/2" as a replacement. No receipt, no hassle.

Why would you need a receipt? Where else besides Sears can you buy craftsman?

goon9 Dec 10, 2007 08:48 PM


Originally Posted by irish44j (Post 6128020)
interesting....I originally had a craftsman 3/8" torque wrench, but the block sheared off when I was using it as a breaker bar (:mrgone:). I took it back and they didn't have another one, so they just gave me the 1/2" as a replacement. No receipt, no hassle.

Why would you need a receipt? Where else besides Sears can you buy craftsman?

Can get them on ebay, but I NEVER needed a recipet. But I only brought in broken sockets and couple rusted wrenches.

MIKE2K2 Dec 10, 2007 09:17 PM


Originally Posted by irish44j (Post 6128020)
interesting....I originally had a craftsman 3/8" torque wrench, but the block sheared off when I was using it as a breaker bar (:mrgone:). I took it back and they didn't have another one, so they just gave me the 1/2" as a replacement. No receipt, no hassle.

Why would you need a receipt? Where else besides Sears can you buy craftsman?


K-mart has a limited selection of Craftsman tools now.

elusivemax93 Dec 11, 2007 12:20 AM

i use cornwell beam style torque wrenches i have a 3/8's and a 1/2 inch beam style torque wrench like this one http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c3...ez/359b_12.jpg

KRRZ350 Dec 11, 2007 05:48 AM


Originally Posted by KRRZ350 (Post 6055826)
And why exactly do you feel that the needle type is innacurate? Because they are not. Calibration/age/damage, along with using one not within the middle of it's range is where you will run into trouble. IE if tourqe wrench X goes from 0-75 ft/lbs, it will not be as accurate at 75ft/lbs. I have three that I use on a regular basis (all craftsmen) depending on the force needed. The smallest is a click type, the two larger are needle.

From a previous thread, thought it would be useful info in here.

Colonel Dec 11, 2007 07:16 AM

I have read on occasion that Torque wrenches need recalibrated. Does anybody do that?

What "position" do people leave their wrenches in when not in use? Meaing is there a specific setting that its left in?

I have had mine a few years and want to make sure its still the tool of exact measure it should be. I have the Craftsman "digital" 3/8 drive.

Puppetmaster Dec 11, 2007 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by benstoked (Post 6128008)
seems to be sears policy....
its total bull ****

Yeah, but this thread reminded me that I need to try again, not that it really matters since I only use it for lugs these days and I just need to be careful the settings don't change while I'm tightening. I'll let y'all know what happens.

elusivemax93 Dec 11, 2007 10:28 AM

i dont have to worry about setting my torque wrenches back down to zero because the beam style torque wrenches dont get messed up fro turning the dail on the side up and leaving it set there. And this i know from my Co-Workers/College Instructors/Tool truck guys all saying the same thing that a beam style torque wrench doesnt have to be turned back down after use. as for recalibrating them usually best to have it done by some pace that can do it or for the few of us using Quality tools off the tool trucks can just take it back to our tool dealers and have them calibrate them.

mtrai760 Dec 11, 2007 01:00 PM

As a general rule... Torque wrenches should be stored at there lowest torque setting, but never go below the lowest marked setting. They should not be used in the first or last 10% of the torque range they are rated at, so if you had a torque wrench that went from 0-100 in/lbs, you should only use it for torquing between 10-90 in/lbs. Torque wrenches should be used for that function only, they should not be used as a regular ratchet wrench, they should not be used for removing bolts/nuts unless you are just check the torque level they turn at. Then a regular ratchet should be used to finish removing it. We recalibrated our torque wrenches every six months, unless it was dropped, then it had to be sent out right away. If the torque was suspect for any reason, the wrench would also be sent out. This was for military aviation use, where EVERY single bolt/nut/screw was torqued, so we used the torque wrenches several dozen times a day. Light automotive use is not so life and death ;)

pmohr Dec 11, 2007 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by irish44j (Post 6128020)
interesting....I originally had a craftsman 3/8" torque wrench, but the block sheared off when I was using it as a breaker bar (:mrgone:). I took it back and they didn't have another one, so they just gave me the 1/2" as a replacement. No receipt, no hassle.

Why would you need a receipt? Where else besides Sears can you buy craftsman?

Sears' return policy on torque wrenches is regular replacement within 60 or 90 days IIRC. Most likely because they're often abused and can go out of calibration relatively easily. When I worked in SAC I would bring in my torque wrench every few weeks and get it replaced no problem, since I have this bad tendency to use it as a breaker bar.

They swapped out a 1/2" for a 3/8"? That's weird.


Originally Posted by MIKE2K2 (Post 6128093)
K-mart has a limited selection of Craftsman tools now.

K-Mart and Sears Holdings have been one for a while, now. Return policy should be the same at either store.

In any case, here's mine:
https://s7.sears.com/is/image/Sears/...sm=0.9,0.5,0,0

MorpheusZero Dec 11, 2007 06:42 PM

I've got a Sears 1/2" drive and 3/8" drive. I have beaten the crap out of them, using the heads as a hammer to knock out bolts on more than one occasion. :hide:

I have since changed my ways, but one of the clickers has become difficult to switch torques and one has become easy. :gotme: Strange stuff.

Colonel Dec 12, 2007 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by mtrai760 (Post 6128935)
As a general rule... Torque wrenches should be stored at there lowest torque setting, but never go below the lowest marked setting. They should not be used in the first or last 10% of the torque range they are rated at, so if you had a torque wrench that went from 0-100 in/lbs, you should only use it for torquing between 10-90 in/lbs. Torque wrenches should be used for that function only, they should not be used as a regular ratchet wrench, they should not be used for removing bolts/nuts unless you are just check the torque level they turn at. Then a regular ratchet should be used to finish removing it. We recalibrated our torque wrenches every six months, unless it was dropped, then it had to be sent out right away. If the torque was suspect for any reason, the wrench would also be sent out. This was for military aviation use, where EVERY single bolt/nut/screw was torqued, so we used the torque wrenches several dozen times a day. Light automotive use is not so life and death ;)

Good info. I was unaware of the 10% rule. Guess I need to go get another wrench as I use mine in the upper 10%. :(

Other than that, I do use them as described above. I have not had it recalibrated though....

RW-Maxima Dec 12, 2007 12:00 PM

Sears torque wrenches don't carry the lifetime warranty even though they're labelled Craftsman. That's probably why the wanted the receipt.

The other advice here is good. Unload the spring when not in use, don't use it to undo fasteners or as a regular ratchet.

You would need a known weight or reliable yield to recalibrate a torque wrench. And of course a way on the wrench to adjust it. Very few people do it.

MorpheusZero Dec 12, 2007 01:45 PM

I have heard of people getting turned down for the Craftsman warranty because of "shop abuse."

Kevlo911 Dec 12, 2007 04:35 PM

I use the 8 do0lla autozone special

sshocker96 Dec 16, 2007 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by Kevlo911 (Post 6131085)
I use the 8 do0lla autozone special

Me too. Maybe that's why that head gasket blew, huh?:vqman:

joebangaa Dec 16, 2007 10:52 PM

I love just about everything made by Craftsman but their torque wrenches have seemed to generate several complaints, particularly when it comes to the plastic locking ring. I don't use mine very often so it's served me well for years, but I know many others who do use them often and swear that the plastic ring is a design flaw. They've even gone as far as saying they prefer a cheapo Harbor Freight-type torque wrench over a Craftsman. Considering a brand new torque wrench from Harbor Freight costs ten bucks whereas JUST recalibrating a Craftsman would cost 30 dollars (without shipping), it's hard to argue with their logic.

MDeezy Dec 17, 2007 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by Kevlo911 (Post 6131085)
I use the 8 do0lla autozone special

I thought I was the only one!

my autozone charges $90 to rent it. but its 20-250 ft/lbs. Very effective and works well.

L.M.L. Dec 20, 2007 09:08 AM

I've got Mountz MTZ80TH wrench. was a bit expensive but good quality.

5thgenmaxima Dec 24, 2007 01:07 PM

1 Attachment(s)
These are the 3 I have now.

http://www.matcotools.com/ProductImages/tra50.jpg
http://www.matcotools.com/ProductImages/trb100.jpg
http://www.matcotools.com/ProductIma...C250_group.jpg

After the new year I'm going to be trading my 1/2" drive wrench in on the one below... Just had a guy in the shop have to do a Headgasket again for free since our angle meter doesn't work. He torqued all bolts then tightened them 90 degrees then 155 degrees off of guessing...Re doing a headgasket for FREE FTL...
This one (or the newer version that looks just like it) has an angle meter built right in for torque to yield bolts.

00MaxSE Dec 25, 2007 10:19 AM

$19.99 from Murrays. Got it 5 years ago.
http://greatnecksaw.com/images/produ...dium/MATW3.jpg


Also have this Craftsman one...no clicking FTL
http://www.minimotogarage.com/tools_02.jpg

00MaxSE Dec 28, 2007 05:52 PM

ZOMG!
 
:faint:

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m...E/DSCN1296.jpg

nismology Jan 1, 2008 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by mtrai760 (Post 6128935)
They should not be used in the first or last 10% of the torque range they are rated at, so if you had a torque wrench that went from 0-100 in/lbs, you should only use it for torquing between 10-90 in/lbs.

I've read in quite a few places that click-type torque wrenches are accurate from 20% of max to 100%. Accuracy only suffers on the low end.

spdfreak Jan 1, 2008 11:32 AM

Has Consumer Reports ever had a comparison?


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