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Poor man's hyper grounds...pics inside!!!
OK...so, I made a "hyper" ground wire kit meself, and I like it :D
I couldn't justify the price either, so, I bought the following: -- regular home wire (electrical wire) which has 3 8-gauge wires inside. raw wire -- 12 ring terminals (for 8 gauge wire) -- dielectrical grease -- some sand paper So, after making the wires (which is pretty straight forward), I sanded down all of the ground points, greased 'em up nice, and re- connected all of the ground wires, along with the new ones. In this last pic, you can notice the wires all attached to the battery ground...not sure if this is how the folks at hyperground do it, but, it works for me. battery terminal with new grounds ***OK I made a small boo-boo*** I placed some of the ground wires INSIDE the negative battery terminal, preventing the terminal from properly securing itself around the battery itself. Therefore, if you decide to do this, keep the "new" ground wires out of the middle of the terminal, and place them in the outside. You'll also note the wood in this pic...I'm working on a new battery tray to go along with my Frankencar intake (without bend) so that the battery and the intake don't rub each other the wrong way. anyhow...hope this helps...I'll take more/better pics if there are any questions on this. take care, FLO_BOY |
Re: Poor man's hyper grounds...pics inside!!!
Originally posted by FLO_BOY OK...so, I made a "hyper" ground wire kit meself, and I like it :D I couldn't justify the price either, so, I bought the following: -- regular home wire (electrical wire) which has 3 8-gauge wires inside. raw wire -- 12 ring terminals (for 8 gauge wire) -- dielectrical grease -- some sand paper So, after making the wires (which is pretty straight forward), I sanded down all of the ground points, greased 'em up nice, and re- connected all of the ground wires, along with the new ones. In this last pic, you can notice the wires all attached to the battery ground...not sure if this is how the folks at hyperground do it, but, it works for me. battery terminal with new grounds i wil try and take some pics today was well.. You'll also note the wood in this pic...I'm working on a new battery tray to go along with my Frankencar intake (without bend) so that the battery and the intake don't rub each other the wrong way. anyhow...hope this helps...I'll take more/better pics if there are any questions on this. take care, FLO_BOY |
Re: Re: Poor man's hyper grounds...pics inside!!!
Originally posted by redmaxpa007 FLO_BOY |
Looks good. I'm sure it works as well as the Hyperground, but I was too lazy to do the extra work on a DIY kit.
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cool.. thanks for the pics :cool:
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Re: Re: Re: Poor man's hyper grounds...pics inside!!!
Originally posted by FLO_BOY was there a question? :laugh: FLO_BOY opps... i was gonna say i will try and take some pics of my hyper ground setup.. :laugh: |
nice idea, came out good and you saved some $$$$$$
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Re: Poor man's hyper grounds...pics inside!!!
Originally posted by FLO_BOY ***OK I made a small boo-boo*** I placed some of the ground wires INSIDE the negative battery terminal, preventing the terminal from properly securing itself around the battery itself. Therefore, if you decide to do this, keep the "new" ground wires out of the middle of the terminal, and place them in the outside. battery terminal old pic Ground fix oh, and scroll to the bottom later y'all FLO_BOY |
Re: Re: Re: Poor man's hyper grounds...pics inside!!!
Originally posted by FLO_BOY was there a question? :laugh: FLO_BOY |
Hope that wood tray is temporary. It looks awful and would likely bend or rot due to moisture.
your hyper grounds look good but you didn't say what you hooked it up to.... And i only see 2 wires while the real one has about 7.... :confused: |
Originally posted by EZEMaxima Hope that wood tray is temporary. It looks awful and would likely bend or rot due to moisture. your hyper grounds look good but you didn't say what you hooked it up to.... And i only see 2 wires while the real one has about 7.... :confused: In fact, it's already out. about the wires...there are actually more than two, but, not every wire could connect back to the battery terminal because the terminal would be too bulky and wouldn't attach to the battery. That said, I attached some of the other cables to other ground points. Does this sound right? FLO_BOY |
go to walmart and get a brass terminal.. its about 2-3 bucks. It looks much neater... I will try to get pics of my setup up as well.
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Um...there's no way that's 8GA wire...
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Originally posted by mzmtg Um...there's no way that's 8GA wire... It's definitely thick enough... much thicker than 10GA, and much thinner than 4GA. thanks, FLO_BOY |
Yea.. i was just about to post that.
that looks like 16 ga to me. or even less than that 8 gauge should be fairly large. like a thin pencil. 4 gauge is like a hose Originally posted by mzmtg Um...there's no way that's 8GA wire... |
Originally posted by Chebosto Yea.. i was just about to post that. that looks like 16 ga to me. or even less than that 8 gauge should be fairly large. like a thin pencil. 4 gauge is like a hose this pic you'll notice that the wire is close to the size of a pencil. cheers! FLO_BOY |
Contact Ian about the MEVI deal.
Originally posted by Chebosto Yea.. i was just about to post that. that looks like 16 ga to me. or even less than that 8 gauge should be fairly large. like a thin pencil. 4 gauge is like a hose |
Originally posted by FLO_BOY well, then either Home Depot lied to me, and mis-marked ALL of their stock...or, the pic isn't giving you a clear pic...If you look at this pic you'll notice that the wire is close to the size of a pencil. cheers! FLO_BOY :D |
Did you just crimp the ring terminals or soldered it on?
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Originally posted by EZEMaxima Did you just crimp the ring terminals or soldered it on? |
i would have used 0 gauge
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Originally posted by EZEMaxima Did you just crimp the ring terminals or soldered it on? so, I simply crimped the Shiznit out of the wire...pleanty sturdy. -FLO_BOY |
Originally posted by FLO_BOY actually, I first tried soldering...no dice. so, I simply crimped the Shiznit out of the wire...pleanty sturdy. -FLO_BOY |
Originally posted by HulaMAX You should be able to solder it all together after its been crimped. Since it's thicker gauge wire and thicker eyelets, it'll take a little time to heat them and melt the solder. Just be careful cuz the insulation tends to melt too. Takes time but gaurantees a good connection. My .02 :D :o ya gonna put hyper ground out of business. I wonder how many Macaronees from other forums seen this write up. Good job on the installation. I am not electronically inclined so the gauge wire numbers look like Japaneese Kangee to me:goofy: |
Those Apexi gauges are beautiful :kiss:. As far as Hyperground, no one visits Maxima land, so they'll never see the instructions :wall:.
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Originally posted by Tanman Those Apexi gauges are beautiful :kiss:. As far as Hyperground, no one visits Maxima land, so they'll never see the instructions :wall:. |
that stuff's probably 8 awg if he bought THHN wire (regular home/commercial grade 110/220V wiring). they use a very thin poly or PVC jacket over the wire. Car Audio power cable uses MUCH thicker insulation and many more strands of smaller wire, so it is in fact a tad bit larger than the stuff he used.
theory on solid/stranded/finely stranded wire gets into skin effects on the surface of the copper and other neato physics stuff like that. I'm sure you'd rather not be bored reading it though. But for these types of things, any wire larger than about 12awg would be fine to use. there's not a lot of current, so mainly it's just the low resistance of a larger wire that you're paying for. (which CAN be negated using poor connections. soldering the connectors can make a huge difference), but I doubt you'll see them in a case like this. Audio stuff or radio frequencies, yeah.. you'll see every crimped connection in the system. go back over them with solder and problems magically dissappear. And yes, it's possible to solder even 1/0 or 2/0awg wire.. I use a blowtorch to do it. :) http://www.ee.utulsa.edu/~mblehm/pic...wer_wire_1.jpg http://www.ee.utulsa.edu/~mblehm/pic...wer_wire_2.jpg |
Originally posted by Matt93SE And yes, it's possible to solder even 1/0 or 2/0awg wire.. I use a blowtorch to do it. :) http://www.ee.utulsa.edu/~mblehm/pic...wer_wire_1.jpg http://www.ee.utulsa.edu/~mblehm/pic...wer_wire_2.jpg |
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