Warning if you're going to order a VI from Courtesy
 

This is a warning- DO NOT get your hopes up on the price being $336, including 1 actuator, 1 shaft, 12 pins, 1 seal, 1 gasket, 1 intake cover, 9 bolts, 1 collector and 6 power valves. I was in the process of ordering one, down to getting my information when the parts manager chimed in. He told me that as of right now, they were NOT selling any more VI's until more testing etc can be done. I tried to get him to sell it to me anyway, but he says 2-3 more weeks. He also told me the price of $336 sounded "too low". Yup I always managed to get screwed. If you ordered a VI and got it for $336 consider yourself very lucky. Theres gotta be somewhere else who can get this for cheap. I just hope that they keep the price somewhere in that neighborhood when they do finally release it as a kit.

thats sucks

Re: Warning if you're going to order a VI from Courtesy
 

I don't know if you're an atheist or believe in divine power, but God is practically screaming at you to get rid of the car. This is just another reason. :)

Re: Warning if you're going to order a VI from Courtesy
 

So they are definitely not getting all of the parts that Mr. Cranman and Iansw group deals include?

Yeah I'm sure they were lurking the Org reading our "OMFG that is so Fcking cheap!" replies. Oh well.

yeah exactly, talked to brian today, that excuse about testing was an excuse to get you off the phone eric. It's because courtesy figured out that they could sell it for 300 more and still have business. Some smart guys called their lines and told them it was 650 for the vi overseas... good job to whoever did that:(

oh well, i guees this is just another source for it.... looks like cranman and iansw aren't going to be hurt anymore.

vi
 

yeah exactly, talked to brian today, that excuse about testing was an excuse to get you off the phone eric. It's because courtesy figured out that they could sell it for 300 more and still have business. Some smart guys called their lines and told them it was 650 for the vi overseas... good job to whoever did that:(

oh well, i guees this is just another source for it.... looks like cranman and iansw aren't going to be hurt anymore.

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That sucks if what you say really happened.

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Lovely

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either way it's a good thing that they're doing, we won't have any wait time, courtesy is just another business capitalizing.

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i still think it's **** of them to raise prices after coming out with the offer of 336.....yeah it's lower than everyone else's but their business will be that much better too...

man i shouldve got on that deal before. :mad:

If things happened the way sexima posted...

I think courtesy is full of SH*T. Yes they seemed to have had a product for us that we wanted and for a great prcie. but when push came to shove they pi$$ed on us.

Maybe this should show us that Courtesy is trying to make as much $$ from us as possible.

I think we should show them, they are not as needed as they think and NOT buy any VI's from them

My 2 cents

Oh and if YOUR the AS*HOLE that messed up a great thing.. I hope your karma bends you over and sticks it to you good!!

ok guys before i get to class 2nite im going to go talk to the manager and see what's up, i'll get back to you guys about the price. It really better not change =(. I'll try to find out for sure what's going on.

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I just got off of the phone with Bruce in parts at Courtsey, he said that they have no final price or parts list, VI is still in the test stage process. He claimed they never had an initial or set price.

Ian and Cranman still sound like the way to go to me.

^^I hear that. I hate ppl that d!ck others around :mad:

Courtesy has always been well aware of the market price for VIs as well as the parts. I think their main problem has been getting VIs in bulk. The parts manager has been handling most issues with the help of a few individuals, but the parts guys (Bruce, Brian, etc) don't really know that much information. There's also several Maxima guys who work there.
-hype

damn
that sucks

Well, seeing as we will be the largest constiuent of their buyers for that particular part, why not refuse to buy from them? If they were willing to sell for $336 but then found out they could get more, why not show them that they can't! I know I'm not going to buy one from them if they do this to me.

I agree, if they jack up the prices, we have to make it known that we are boycotting their dealership. I think thats just dirty.

i agree...a nice boycott of their VI should show them..

my .02

I hope they read this thread cause I have to agree. I'm down for a boycott.

LOL...i don't think it's any sweat off their back if you guys boycott buying VI's from them. They'll still do the same amount of business w/o the hassle of importing a ton of VI's. If they sell half as many at a higher price then they'll still make their money in the end. For the gains the VI's are getting they'll still sell....

yeah, but at a lower price, from the business aspect of things, they will sell longer, and many more of them.............which in doing so will bring the price of all VI's down if they want to compete with courtesy, because they will be known as the standard for VI's.......but maybe they're consultants didn't go to the business school i go to:kiss:

Before you jump on Courtesy's back for upping the ante, be aware that they have never made any official statement about what the retail price would be. We have no clue what it costs Courtesy to get the parts and it could very well be that Carnal_c30 got it that cheap for being an initial "tester." I would be very surprised if Courtesy were making normal retail profit on a limited quantity imported product at ~$350. Domestic manifolds are $100-150 at the junkyards and I don't know what it would cost new from a dealer but I'm guessing a VIM shouldn't be cheaper!?!?

did anyone actually get the VI for 336? or was it just a price quoted and hyped up on the org? I

Dam...I had my hopes up. I don't know enough about this to say anything about the way they do business, but if this is true, you will not see me order a VI from them. Let's just hope it will be 336 still.

I agree about not buying anything through Courtesy. If all of this is true, they are just wanting to make as much profit off these VI's that they can.:o It's just wrong. I know it's business, but it scares off customers. Atleast IanS and Cranman are trying to help us out. I'll keep my business in the Org. community.

Not tryin to flame, but read my first post again. I called twice today and the first time I was told around $400 with 2 in stock and the guy had already sold one about 10 minutes before. The second time I was told a more specific price of $336 again with 2 in stock. With it being $336 they already quoted me the price and was about to sell the thing, until the parts manager interrupted and got on the phone with me. This is the part that irritates me. I would have felt better if they would have just told me it was out of stock. Then they tell me that it would be 2 weeks or so when they finish "testing" and that the price seemed "too low". With the price at $336 and others have already received theirs this tells me that the price was indeed set, but then I got screwed. Even if they were going to up the price, they should have at least sold the final one at the $336 price to me. Not being selfish but thats just how it should be. I was quoted $336.

Eric, I was that one that called before you ordering one. As I was giving them my credit card info, I guess Bruce is his name, he came on and said that they can't sell it to me. I asked why and that the purchase is already being completed and he said that he just can't and to call back next week sometime. I am VERY VERY ****ed off now because I already have the RPM switch and the MAP/Baro switch and all. I agree that business is business, especially with a rare product, but you DON'T cut the deal once everything has been set. I am going to call there customer service tomorrow and b!tch.......

People buy more then just VI from Courtesy. I've been buying and recomending them for years now.. All that can change very easaly.

That's great, they know someone is going to post on here with this great price and they let it happen, until they see a way to make more money. If they want to jack up the price, fine, but they had to know it was going to get spread to their biggest market that they were charging that price initially and they took advantage. Good for their bottom line, but I'll keep my business at Town North.

That won't do anything. Courtesy has been good to me, but don't even bother trying to talk to a manager about parts or service(believe me it's pointless). I don't really think there would have been a problem if Courtesy had finalized everything before trying to sell VIs. The problem was that someone hyped the VI to get more posts and be the first to "spread the good news".

I agree that the price should never have been quoted if the sale wasn't ready to be finalized, but I doubt Courtesy has very many VIs (if any) at this time. There's a reason several people in the DFW area bought their VIs from a source other than Courtesy.
-hype

Not entirely true. Do you really think it is smart of Nissan to sell these at a truely affordable price? Take the 2k2 HID's for example. They were selling like hotcakes b/c the price was too cheap. They raise the price and still make their money because they sell. They may sell less of them but they make more on the profit. Same goes w/ the VI's. Simple supply and demand. Take another economics course or two...:D

I agree...but not over the price of a VI. Customer retention won't be affected by it. Especially when Nissan locks down the price of them like they did the HID's. It's a lose lose situation all around for the consumer. Either you pay the higher price (still discounted) from courtesy or you pay a higher price at another dealership..

sorry you got shafted... :(

ok i talked to steve before class. Here's the deal.

They gave me the same reason for not selling anymore as they did for eric, testing the vi.

He was specific about it, they're having trouble finding the rpm switch, and are having problems getting a few of the bolts.

The price that was quoted before, is the price without duties etc.

He wanted me to get the word out that they really are doing this not for the money, but they are putting a hold on this to test it out. I have not spoken to a single guy, of the 4 @ courtesy that new what the vi did exactly, I directed them to iansw install site and they are getting info from that. Steve's been in Japan for a few weeks, just got back, and the guy that was doing the vi is now on vacation.

Steve said to give him a call in a week when he can get things together since he's behind.

I really believe him, he showed me how many calls he got about the vi, 32 today alone. He's not worried about selling them, he just emphasized that he is running a business and wants to be sure that the vi does what everyone says, and that they can sell it as a package with everything included.

A few guys were wondering if courtesy would install it, steve's response was that that's a completely different department, but from the way he explained it, it's doubtful that head of the service department would tinker with it.

Whatever happens, Courtesy parts is there to help us and we really shouldn't cut our ties by doing this.

As far as price goes, 337 or whatever is what I was quoted from the parts department, I wasn't hyping it up. Steve told me that yes, that is indeed the price when each item is looked up and put on an invoice, but he plans to sell this as a complete kit.

I think it would be a good idea to just wait it out and not flame Courtesy yet. Eric I have a very good feeling that the manager chimed in because the guy who was handling the vi is not there and Steve - the manager- is head over heels since he just got back from overseas.

:idea:

boycott the sob's. They were great to deal with about 3-4 years ago, but lately they're just really just not worth it. I ordered stuff, and they didn't give me all the parts I ordered. They charged me extra shipping because they screwed up my order initially and made me re-order the parts that were missing.

Kevin

ok,$50 for a RPM switch and $50 for the baro switch and the relay is $5, hoses are about $15 MAX, wires are $10 max.. so the total of these are $130 pushing the $337 to $467

But you stated this


Ok, but then you said this



by duties do you mean import tax?

so which one is it..

and maybe it seems like I am picking on you, I am NOT.

BUT, Your the one who brought the info to the table.. So I ask you the questions. and maybe your just trying to get the onfo out... but with out ALL of the facts things get confused. Thus people like me get 1/2 the facts and get :mad: thinking we are getting pi$$ed on yet again

more of my 2 cents