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sanjosemaxima 11-23-2002 11:33 AM

Question: hybrid setup
 
hey, I was wondering if you need to get a popcharger (like the jwt) to make a hybrid air intake? I have a PR CAI and want to try it out, but you cant just use the monster air filter to get the same results. right? Thanks for the help.

metallic97gxe 11-23-2002 11:38 AM

hybrid is just a mixed up concept of an intake

example

Jim Wolf Filter and a place racing mid-pipe or frakencar mid-pipe


or Franken car midpipe and Stillen filter
or wepaon r or cattman...etc...if you mix and match parts to make an intake or you make one yourself as in homemade then it is "Hybrid"

sanjosemaxima 11-23-2002 11:54 AM

ok. then can i just use my monster air filter that came with PR CAI?
Basically my question is are there any difference between an air filter like mine and a popcharger like jim wolf or stillen.
Thanks.

dwapenyi 11-23-2002 11:56 AM

Since you have a CAI, you already have the mid-pipe. To convert to Hybrid, get rid of the long tube that curves and goes under the fender. You'll have to find a way to mount the CAI filter onto the MAF and that would complete the conversion.

If you do buy a JWT or Stillen intake, not only will you get the mount for the MAF, but you also get a bigger filter and a velocity stack.

DW

sanjosemaxima 11-23-2002 12:18 PM

thank you guys

Aaron 11-23-2002 12:45 PM


Originally posted by sanjosemaxima
thank you guys
I did the same thing with my PRCAI....the monster flow filter will fit right on the maf adapter that connects the lower cai tube to it.

Aaron

Jon91SE 11-23-2002 12:54 PM

So you think that adding a shiny midpipe to a pop charger is going to dramatically increase performance over your cold air setup? It may add some noise and a slight increase in throttle response at best but dont expect more. Now many on the orgy have jumped on this bandwagon but nowhere else in import racing do you see people giving up their cold air intakes for any sort of pop charger( most of which already come with this hybrid midpipe).
But if you still think its better then by all means go for it


:D

Jime 11-23-2002 01:00 PM

Re: Question: hybrid setup
 

Originally posted by sanjosemaxima
hey, I was wondering if you need to get a popcharger (like the jwt) to make a hybrid air intake? I have a PR CAI and want to try it out, but you cant just use the monster air filter to get the same results. right? Thanks for the help.
I have been using the PRCAI with the Monster filter in hybrid mode for about 6 months now. I believe its better than with the extra length of pipe. Each to their own. Try it and compare. I do take the headlight out when I race and have moved the battery over to allow the air in through the headlight hole.

Aaron 11-23-2002 01:07 PM

Re: Re: Question: hybrid setup
 

Originally posted by Jime


I have been using the PRCAI with the Monster filter in hybrid mode for about 6 months now. I believe its better than with the extra length of pipe. Each to their own. Try it and compare. I do take the headlight out when I race and have moved the battery over to allow the air in through the headlight hole.

Besides....its way easier to get the filter off to clean it.

metallic97gxe 11-23-2002 01:21 PM

Re: Re: Re: Question: hybrid setup
 

Originally posted by Aaron95SE


Besides....its way easier to get the filter off to clean it.







true and unlike other CAI setups Honda etc...if you want the PR CAI you have to cut a 3" hole in your fender unless you get the new Injen CAI and you do not have to cut in the fende..which stikes me to ask this question the long tubes on CAI's are supposed to draw in "colder" air but comparing the Ijnen CAI to the Place Racing to me the Place Rracing is a "true CAI" set-up since the air drawn in is outside of the engine bay area and the Injen intake the air is drawn in from around inside the engine bay like all other pop charger intakes.........hmmmmmm! anyone else!

sanjosemaxima 11-23-2002 01:50 PM

this is great info, but is there any difference between the monster air filter and a popcharger?

hakk97se 11-23-2002 02:34 PM

I am in the same situation. I have a PRCAI on my car for almost a year now with the MonsterFlow. At the suggestion of some local members, I am going to give the hybrid setup a try. When I was at Stillen for "Nissan Day" I picked up a Stillen cone filter, but I need a 3" adapter to make it work, and a velocity stack wouldn't be a bad idea either.. where would the best place to get these be?

Aaron 11-23-2002 02:37 PM

The hybrid vs cai crap has been hashed out a zillion times. Both have advantages and disadvantages.

Jime 11-23-2002 02:56 PM


Originally posted by hakk97se
I am in the same situation. I have a PRCAI on my car for almost a year now with the MonsterFlow. At the suggestion of some local members, I am going to give the hybrid setup a try. When I was at Stillen for "Nissan Day" I picked up a Stillen cone filter, but I need a 3" adapter to make it work, and a velocity stack wouldn't be a bad idea either.. where would the best place to get these be?
Why? Just take the cai pipe off and put the monster flow on the MAF, you don't need any adapter.

Aaron 11-23-2002 03:30 PM


Originally posted by Jime


Why? Just take the cai pipe off and put the monster flow on the MAF, you don't need any adapter.

Oh yeah.......you dont......thats what I did...I'm thinking of the adapter on the TB side of the maf.....

Long day.....a$$ clowns on swings lost a tool.....air force dont like lost tools.....

acMAX 11-23-2002 07:12 PM


Originally posted by metallic97gxe
hybrid is just a mixed up concept of an intake

example

Jim Wolf Filter and a place racing mid-pipe or frakencar mid-pipe



that's my "hybrid" set up

99maximagxe 11-29-2002 11:54 PM

I say just stick with the real cold air setup and get ur top end power from your y-pipe. Plus your getting cooler air.

Nismo 11-30-2002 01:34 AM


Originally posted by 99maximagxe
I say just stick with the real cold air setup and get ur top end power from your y-pipe. Plus your getting cooler air.
Do you really think that the air is that much cooler at high speeds? the main advantage of the CAI is the cooler air from lower speeds where heat soak affects under hood intakes. btw, I have a y-pipe and switched from CAI to "hybrid/stillen"

hakk97se 12-01-2002 03:47 PM


Originally posted by Nismo


Do you really think that the air is that much cooler at high speeds? the main advantage of the CAI is the cooler air from lower speeds where heat soak affects under hood intakes. btw, I have a y-pipe and switched from CAI to "hybrid/stillen"

Hey man.. Where did you get the 3" adaptor? Stillen? Cause I got the cone too that day and want to change my Place Racing CAI to that for a test, but I need the adaptor.. and maybe a velocity stack.

Victim64 12-01-2002 04:34 PM

SI vs CAI debate continues.

However, we all know what the fast NA maximas have at the track now don't we! :D

Requin6 12-01-2002 04:55 PM


Originally posted by sanjosemaxima
this is great info, but is there any difference between the monster air filter and a popcharger?
popcharger has a velocity stack and adapter built into it. your monsterflow filter requires the use of an adapter to mate it to the MAF and does not have a velocity stack.

dwapenyi 12-01-2002 07:58 PM

Just to clarify, only the Stillen Intake and the JWT Popcharger have the velocity stack. All the other POP style filters do not.

DW


Originally posted by Requin6

popcharger has a velocity stack and adapter built into it. your monsterflow filter requires the use of an adapter to mate it to the MAF and does not have a velocity stack.


Nismo 12-01-2002 10:56 PM


Originally posted by hakk97se


Hey man.. Where did you get the 3" adaptor? Stillen? Cause I got the cone too that day and want to change my Place Racing CAI to that for a test, but I need the adaptor.. and maybe a velocity stack.

sup, I got a used stillen intake from a member here so now im using my new filters. :cool:

http://images.cardomain.com/installs...60_68_full.jpg

hakk97se 12-02-2002 12:35 AM


Originally posted by Nismo


sup, I got a used stillen intake from a member here so now im using my new filters. :cool:

http://images.cardomain.com/installs...60_68_full.jpg

I know. I stood in line with Iilac to buy them. But you still need the 3" adapter (shown in your photo).. Where did you guys get em?

Nismo 12-02-2002 12:42 AM


Originally posted by hakk97se


I know. I stood in line with Iilac to buy them. But you still need the 3" adapter (shown in your photo).. Where did you guys get em?

an org member sold me the stillen velocity stack from the FS forum. Iilac doesnt have the adapter yet since hes using his apexi filter. its not a 3" adapter you need (your CAI already has a 3" adapter) what you need is a Velocity stack from either a stillen or a Pop charger intake. I got mine used.

dwapenyi 12-02-2002 07:45 PM

So you drove your car for a while without a velocity stack, and then later added it as your only change to your intake?? How much of a difference did you feel?? I'm guessig that low end may have improved, and not so much on the top end.

DW


Originally posted by Nismo


an org member sold me the stillen velocity stack from the FS forum. Iilac doesnt have the adapter yet since hes using his apexi filter. its not a 3" adapter you need (your CAI already has a 3" adapter) what you need is a Velocity stack from either a stillen or a Pop charger intake. I got mine used.


Nismo 12-02-2002 10:51 PM


Originally posted by dwapenyi
So you drove your car for a while without a velocity stack, and then later added it as your only change to your intake?? How much of a difference did you feel?? I'm guessig that low end may have improved, and not so much on the top end.

DW


when I switched to hybrid I had on a 3" MAF adapter with a K&N cone intake, I had a couple stillen filters I bought and later I bought the velocity stack that I have on now. I cant tell much difference really because I havent gone out testing it much to compare the 2 other than the intake sounds less "raspy" at WOT


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