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deezo Nov 25, 2003 07:05 AM

Who all is running copper NGK's for NA use?
 
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I'm thinking about going copper my next go round. Which part number are you using?

Matt93SE Nov 25, 2003 07:24 AM

:sprint:
I'm using the regular NGKs that are meant for the VG. change 'em about once a year and they're great. screw that $9 per plug, I'm going $9 per set!

Dunno if they'll work on the VQ, but I'm happy with them in my VE.

Maximajism94se Nov 25, 2003 07:31 AM

same as matt here....

Stephen Max Nov 25, 2003 07:40 AM


Originally Posted by Maximajism94se
same as matt here....

If I was NA I would. (I'm boosted and I do.) It's so easy to change the plugs on a Maxima, I don't know why any self respecting car guy would pay for the plats just so he didn't have to change the plugs as often.

ejj Nov 25, 2003 08:07 AM

I did when I was NA. BKR5E IIRC.

internetautomar Nov 25, 2003 08:09 AM

Cheap Asses

Matt93SE Nov 25, 2003 08:13 AM

Why pay 6x as much for something when you're going to change them every year anyway?

Stephen Max Nov 25, 2003 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by internetautomar
Cheap Asses

Lazy arse







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skandalouz Nov 25, 2003 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by Stephen Max
If I was NA I would. (I'm boosted and I do.) It's so easy to change the plugs on a Maxima, I don't know why any self respecting car guy would pay for the plats just so he didn't have to change the plugs as often.

not on the 3.5s... it's a real pain to change them out....

Dave B Nov 25, 2003 08:46 AM

I'm running the NGK coppers and I've run my PB with them. I forget the part number, but just tell the guy you want 6 NGK coppers for your 95 Nissan Altima because the coppers won't be listed for the 95+ Maxima.


Dave

mzmtg Nov 25, 2003 08:46 AM

I am. BKR5E-11

No discernable performance difference over the plats. Got em for less than $2 each from Advance Auto Parts.

ejj Nov 25, 2003 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by Dave B
I'm running the NGK coppers and I've run my PB with them. I forget the part number, but just tell the guy you want 6 NGK coppers for your 95 Nissan Altima because the coppers won't be listed for the 95+ Maxima.


Dave

Before I could remember that part number, that's what I did.

FYI you don't need the "-11" part of the part number. That just means they're pre-gapped. If you just get BRK5E's you can gap them yourself. I always re-check and/or re-gap all my plugs anyways.

I change my coppers now about every 10k, or whenever they're out (for compression test, etc). Its just to cheap to pass up.

99Maxima5sp Nov 25, 2003 09:30 AM

I was running plats, then i had to switch since i started spraying. Now im running 1-step colder plugs which slightly hinders N/A performance...



Eric

Sprint Nov 25, 2003 09:45 AM

:wavey: :wavey:

hokiemax Nov 25, 2003 10:14 AM

I run copper NGKs in mine too. they're great. forgot the part number though.

Nealoc187 Nov 25, 2003 11:52 AM

Platinum plugs are a waste. 60k miles for $8 or 30k miles for $2. Copper is a superior conductor to platinum anyhow though you won't see any performance difference.

voltman Nov 25, 2003 12:17 PM

I thought the point of fewer plug changes was because the aluminum of the VQ block was more prone to damage from constant threading. I read that somewhere.

Stephen Max Nov 25, 2003 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by voltman
I thought the point of fewer plug changes was because the aluminum of the VQ block was more prone to damage from constant threading. I read that somewhere.

Just don't overtighten. All it takes is about 2/3 to 3/4 of a turn past finger tight to crush the washer.

happyricefob Nov 25, 2003 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by 99Maxima5sp
im running 1-step colder plugs which slightly hinders N/A performance...



Eric

:sprint:

yea i was planning to spray, but not anymore :( so i'm goin back to platinum tip pretty soon...

nismology Nov 25, 2003 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by Stephen Max
Just don't overtighten. All it takes is about 2/3 to 3/4 of a turn past finger tight to crush the washer.

Is this with or without anti-seize?

Stephen Max Nov 25, 2003 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by IwANnAMaX96
Is this with or without anti-seize?

The anti-sieze won't change how much of a turn it takes to crush the washer - that is determined by the thread pitch. It's a good idea to always use anti-sieze, though, since it prevents galvanic corrosion between the aluminum head and the steel spark plug. Then again, if you use coppers you're not going to give galvanic corrosion long enough time to build up to any significant level. I'd still use it, though.

Sprint Nov 25, 2003 01:02 PM

http://www.vqpower.com/v2/modules.ph...howpage&pid=33

Nissan Part # for these plugs are 22401 - 50Y05

deezo Nov 25, 2003 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by voltman
I thought the point of fewer plug changes was because the aluminum of the VQ block was more prone to damage from constant threading. I read that somewhere.

To do the job right, get a torque wrench. You won't go wrong and won't have to worry about overtightening.

Jeff92se Nov 25, 2003 01:51 PM

And use some anti-seize on the plug threads.

Maximam Nov 25, 2003 01:57 PM

I am running copper NGKs.

voltman Nov 25, 2003 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by deezo
To do the job right, get a torque wrench. You won't go wrong and won't have to worry about overtightening.


I'm not personally worried about it. It's just something I've read.

Y2KSESteve Nov 25, 2003 03:48 PM

I've run nothing but copper plugs in my maximas..

hakk97se Nov 25, 2003 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by Nealoc187
Platinum plugs are a waste. 60k miles for $8 or 30k miles for $2. Copper is a superior conductor to platinum anyhow though you won't see any performance difference.

I paid a lot for my NGK plat's and when I was working on my car with Turbo95Max he mentioned that copper gives a better spark and it's not hard to change em on the VQ30. The only difference is price and the fact that you dont have to gap the plats.

Next time around I will be going NGK copper.

internetautomar Nov 25, 2003 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by Matt93SE
Why pay 6x as much for something when you're going to change them every year anyway?

Y would you change them every year?
I pull em, check em, Make sure they're all good and the car is running right and slap em back in.

meccanoble Nov 25, 2003 08:30 PM

i will go copper next go around but i'm worried about gapping. How hard is it to gap?

SmoothMax Nov 25, 2003 08:45 PM

:sprint:

Haven't sprayed in some time now, however I still run the NGK coppers.

spirilis Nov 25, 2003 08:45 PM

If the NGK V-Power copper core plugs for the Maxima are similar to the ones I used in my old Mazda, you won't need to gap the plugs at all. Gapping is easy as hell though; buy a wire plug gap gauge (for cheap at Advance Auto or Autozone, they may even have them up at the cashier counter in a stack) and try to stick the proper size wire loop (.044") through the plug gap... if it's too tight, open it up, if it's too loose, close it down a little... they have a little notched tool on the gauge for bending the ground electrode (setting the gap involves merely bending the ground electrode to widen/shorten the gap).

MyownNismo Nov 25, 2003 10:25 PM

I got about 45,000 miles on my ride and am going to change my spark plugs soon is there a write-up on how to change these I haven't had to change them yet and the rears look like a PITA. Would you reccommend the copper plugs for NA use. or what would the best ones be for my car with my mods.

I30tMikeD Nov 25, 2003 11:45 PM

NGK coppers for me.

davebond007 Nov 25, 2003 11:46 PM

BKR5E-11's on my VE with 166k.

Runs great.

MrGone Nov 26, 2003 12:06 AM

I am


love it!

KLoWnPR109 Nov 26, 2003 12:08 AM

I am as well. Probably time to change them. Although, I have no clue how to :(

99Maxima5sp Nov 26, 2003 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by happyricefob
:sprint:

yea i was planning to spray, but not anymore :( so i'm goin back to platinum tip pretty soon...



I still wouldnt go back to plats simply because their so damn expensive. Also, coppers a better conducter as previously stated.

And slightly OT, but why arent you gonna spray anymore?





Eric

MrGone Nov 26, 2003 02:56 PM

I think I'm going to put coppers in my Dads 2000SE today. Has NGK plat's in there now.


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