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emax02 Oct 17, 2000 10:44 PM

I just finished installing my new pair of real HID's in my 95 max {in my 97-99 headlights}.These lights just go into the factory housing.It took like 2 hours to do since it was my first time so I wanted to make sure I did everything right.My impressions of these lights is very positive,whould I do it again hell ya.These lights are amed perfectly on the street and are about 3 times brighter then my piaa superwhites were,it looks like daytime now!!.The only compliant I have now is that my other 2 pairs of piaa superwhites look piss yellow next to them. If anyone is interested in buying these I will post were you can get these lights at the same great price of $525 in the for sale section tomarrow with ordering details.If any one has any questions then post away.

2000MaximaSE Oct 17, 2000 10:58 PM

Ohhhhhh crap
 
Damnit, i was hoping they would look like hell so i wouldnt want them :)

And i just happen to have over 500 bucks too........ This will require some major thinking.... And lots of pictures from you!!! lets see pictures! I wannna see what your lights look like and how the road or a wall looks lit up by the lights.
Thanks,
Adam

emax02 Oct 17, 2000 11:13 PM

Re: Ohhhhhh crap
 

Originally posted by 2000MaximaSE
Damnit, i was hoping they would look like hell so i wouldnt want them :)

And i just happen to have over 500 bucks too........ This will require some major thinking.... And lots of pictures from you!!! lets see pictures! I wannna see what your lights look like and how the road or a wall looks lit up by the lights.
Thanks,
Adam

I guess I will try to take pictures no promises though,it'l be a pain in the ***,got to get them developed and all.

Chebosto Oct 17, 2000 11:15 PM

Re: Re: Ohhhhhh crap
 
what? no digital? a must for an auto enthusiast.

office depot has clearance on DC280s for like $299. i think....

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I guess I will try to take pictures no promises though,it'l be a pain in the ***,got to get them developed and all. [/I][/QUOTE]

2000MaximaSE Oct 17, 2000 11:20 PM

ohh....
 
And do they make the kit for H4??? cuz my max doesnt have 9004's like you guys....

Adam

emax02 Oct 17, 2000 11:33 PM

It should fit
 
These lights are from a Lincoln Mark VIII {I think 9006} so basically they were not designed for 9004's either.They adapted to the my headlights very easily though no drilling or yousing a dremol.I just used some Epoxy and some Silicone sealant Caulk.They are on real flush and solid now.
I thought 5th gen's were still 9004 headlights and H4 foglight instead of H3's on 4th gens.I guess not,but I don't think you would have a problem installing them anywase.Might take a little crafsminship though.

skimax Oct 18, 2000 02:04 AM

hey, is it really blue or just really white like the phillips ones? thanks

emax02 Oct 18, 2000 07:06 AM

Really,Really White with a hint of blue
 
also 2000maxSE I think that H4's are 9006's actually just like H3's are 9003 not possitive though anybody?

shumax Oct 18, 2000 09:35 AM

XENONSHOP.COM has them 4 $310....I had em...read on..
 
they were junk. I sold mine on Ebay for 275. I am happy to hear you got a good set. My GF has them in her Integra and they worked perfect in hers. I think I got a bad set or something....but you got them a lot higher priced than I did.

XENONSHOP.COM for $310.00

WoodEar Oct 18, 2000 09:52 AM


Originally posted by emax95
I just finished installing my new pair of real HID's in my 95 max {in my 97-99 headlights}.These lights just go into the factory housing.It took like 2 hours to do since it was my first time so I wanted to make sure I did everything right.My impressions of these lights is very positive,whould I do it again hell ya.These lights are amed perfectly on the street and are about 3 times brighter then my piaa superwhites were,it looks like daytime now!!.The only compliant I have now is that my other 2 pairs of piaa superwhites look piss yellow next to them. If anyone is interested in buying these I will post were you can get these lights at the same great price of $525 in the for sale section tomarrow with ordering details.If any one has any questions then post away.
Let me ask you this way, does it look exactly like any type of OEM xenon on the streets like MB, BMW, Audi, Lexus, I30, TL, S2000...?

Albertt Oct 18, 2000 11:15 AM

If you've got a 2000+ Maxima >>
 
Stay away from those conversions! They'll just f**k up your beam pattern. H4s are the best non-HID bulbs out there. Be happy you don't have these freakin' Godforsaken 9004s.

Jeff92se Oct 18, 2000 11:55 AM

Whoa wait a minute!-->
 
Someone help me here.

1) The Mark VIII has hid? Yes right?
2) You just epoxied the buld into the maxima housings?
3) Can you just do that w/o messing up the beam patterns? Nissan reflectors w/ HID lights from a Ford?
4) How did you do the wiring?
5) Do you high beams also??

Thanks.

got rice? Oct 18, 2000 12:06 PM

Re: Really,Really White with a hint of blue
 

Originally posted by emax95
also 2000maxSE I think that H4's are 9006's actually just like H3's are 9003 not possitive though anybody?
No, H4s are not 9006s. Completely different bulb length and connectors.

got rice? Oct 18, 2000 12:08 PM

Re: XENONSHOP.COM has them 4 $310....I had em...read on..
 

Originally posted by shumax
they were junk. I sold mine on Ebay for 275. I am happy to hear you got a good set. My GF has them in her Integra and they worked perfect in hers. I think I got a bad set or something....but you got them a lot higher priced than I did.

XENONSHOP.COM for $310.00

times 2. $310 is just for one side.

emax02 Oct 18, 2000 12:38 PM

Re: Re: XENONSHOP.COM has them 4 $310....I had em...read on..
 

Originally posted by got rice?

Originally posted by shumax
they were junk. I sold mine on Ebay for 275. I am happy to hear you got a good set. My GF has them in her Integra and they worked perfect in hers. I think I got a bad set or something....but you got them a lot higher priced than I did.

XENONSHOP.COM for $310.00

times 2. $310 is just for one side.

Thanks for the reply GotRice,good thing that place did not have them for $310 I would have shot someone.


Hay Wooodear the answer to your question is yes it does look the same as mercedes and others with HID's.


And Jeff92SE,no I do not have any high beams{I never yous them anywase},The beam patterns seem fine to me,and about wiring,just 4 wires have to be altered a little,it's easy to wire just get wire cutters,stripers,soudering iron and some wire scrues and your good to go.

got rice? Oct 18, 2000 03:17 PM

Re: Re: Re: XENONSHOP.COM has them 4 $310....I had em...read on..
 

Originally posted by emax95
Hay Wooodear the answer to your question is yes it does look the same as mercedes and others with HID's.

And Jeff92SE,no I do not have any high beams{I never yous them anywase},The beam patterns seem fine to me,and about wiring,just 4 wires have to be altered a little,it's easy to wire just get wire cutters,stripers,soudering iron and some wire scrues and your good to go.

Sounds like a good deal for $525. I guess I won't be selling too many Philips HID kits ($590) for Maxima owners since most will opt for the less expensive kit LOL (I received five kits this morning. Three are being sent out tomorrow, one was just sent out this afternoon, one left in stock)
<img src="http://www.cyberhosts.net/~gotrice/products/misc/hid08.jpg">

aww yeah :)

Jeff92se Oct 18, 2000 03:25 PM

Phoung, so you get hi/low also?? -->
 
how do you deal w/ the reflector sections?? Sorry I'm dum!

WoodEar Oct 18, 2000 03:29 PM

i think the ones in his pic is for 9006 only, that's exactly what i have on mine.
and to tell you the truth, unless your 9006 is projector head light, it won't look 100% like the oem xenon.
<img src="http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1234597&a=9113588&p=30970291">

Jeff92se Oct 18, 2000 03:31 PM

FAWK! hehe n/m
 
adf

Eric L. Oct 18, 2000 03:59 PM

Re: Re: Re: Ohhhhhh crap
 

Originally posted by Chebosto
what? no digital? a must for an auto enthusiast.

office depot has clearance on DC280s for like $299. i think....



Actually, Office Depot has the Kodak DC215 for $299. I just purchased a DC280 online for $400 total the other day, and man when I heard $299, I almost had a heart attack.

BTW, if you are trying to decide between the 215 or the 280, spend the extra $100 for the 280. I just got it, and the picture quality is 'spectacular' (if you know what I mean, from Seinfield).



got rice? Oct 18, 2000 05:46 PM

Re: Phoung, so you get hi/low also?? -->
 

Originally posted by Jeff92se
how do you deal w/ the reflector sections?? Sorry I'm dum!
like woodear mentioned, those pictured are all 9006 - projector. I don't stock up on the reflective bulbs since they're not as quick of a seller. If you opt for the 9004R, you lose your high beam. Personally, I never use my high beams. Once you have HIDs you won't need them since you'll be lighting up the road =)

woodear, the Philips unit is used in most German vehicles - Benz, Porsche, BMW, Audi, etc according to my supplier.

WoodEar Oct 18, 2000 06:33 PM

Re: Re: Phoung, so you get hi/low also?? -->
 

Originally posted by got rice?

woodear, the Philips unit is used in most German vehicles - Benz, Porsche, BMW, Audi, etc according to my supplier. [/I]
really?
i heard they have two types, the other one is Hella or something?
i personally much prefer the projecter type of xenon, like the one on OEM Audi or S2000, from far away it's 2 tiny cold looking blue dots, once they get close they keep changing color, when it's at your eye level it turns to yellow like normal halogen lights so it don't both you. i think it looks way better than the non-projection xenon like the OEM Mecedes and Lexus.
I think BMW just changed their headlights to projecter also on the '01 model.

Albertt Oct 19, 2000 05:12 AM

EMAX & Jeff: bulb types >>
 
9006 are combined with 9005 for teh low/high combination in most cars using the two headlight system (US BMWs, Hondas, Buicks)

There are housing numbers (usually imprinted on the housing lens of the headlamp) that are associated with the bulb types:

9004 - HB1
9005 - HB3
9006 - HB4
9007 - HB5

9003=H4 - HB2

These 9000 series and HB numbers signify a lamp that is built in compliance to the FMVSS108 specification. The H series of numbers (H1 through H7) are built to European specs. If you've got a dual filament bulb...stay away from HID conversions...you'll lose your highbeams and would only be annoying to other drivers on the road.

RussMaxManiac Oct 19, 2000 05:43 AM


Originally posted by emax95
I just finished installing my new pair of real HID's in my 95 max {in my 97-99 headlights}.These lights just go into the factory housing.It took like 2 hours to do since it was my first time so I wanted to make sure I did everything right.My impressions of these lights is very positive,whould I do it again hell ya.These lights are amed perfectly on the street and are about 3 times brighter then my piaa superwhites were,it looks like daytime now!!.The only compliant I have now is that my other 2 pairs of piaa superwhites look piss yellow next to them. If anyone is interested in buying these I will post were you can get these lights at the same great price of $525 in the for sale section tomarrow with ordering details.If any one has any questions then post away.
Where you get them for $525?

got rice? Oct 19, 2000 06:00 AM

Re: Re: Re: Phoung, so you get hi/low also?? -->
 

Originally posted by WoodEar
really?
i heard they have two types, the other one is Hella or something?
i personally much prefer the projecter type of xenon, like the one on OEM Audi or S2000, from far away it's 2 tiny cold looking blue dots, once they get close they keep changing color, when it's at your eye level it turns to yellow like normal halogen lights so it don't both you. i think it looks way better than the non-projection xenon like the OEM Mecedes and Lexus.
I think BMW just changed their headlights to projecter also on the '01 model.


<img src="http://www.cyberhosts.net/~gotrice/temp/hid01.jpg">

does that answer your question? :)

the way the HID light looks also depends on the beam pattern on the light housing.

If you look at the 3, 5, 7 series cars, you'll see that BMW does use a projection style lense, but it's setup differently than other housings. This isn't a great shot, but you can sorta see what I'm saying:
<img src="http://www.cyberhosts.net/~gotrice/ttnet/2/piaa02.jpg">
the high beam housing has a projector lense set in to make it seem like it's a reflective housing, which it's not, though.

emax02 Oct 19, 2000 08:37 AM

RE;$525
 
Hay Russ check out the for sale forum a gave ordering info there.


Originally posted by Russ2kSE

Originally posted by emax95
I just finished installing my new pair of real HID's in my 95 max {in my 97-99 headlights}.These lights just go into the factory housing.It took like 2 hours to do since it was my first time so I wanted to make sure I did everything right.My impressions of these lights is very positive,whould I do it again hell ya.These lights are amed perfectly on the street and are about 3 times brighter then my piaa superwhites were,it looks like daytime now!!.The only compliant I have now is that my other 2 pairs of piaa superwhites look piss yellow next to them. If anyone is interested in buying these I will post were you can get these lights at the same great price of $525 in the for sale section tomarrow with ordering details.If any one has any questions then post away.
Where you get them for $525?


Jeff92se Oct 19, 2000 08:51 AM

So HID for hi/low dual filament
 
bulbs is impossible?? And keep the hi/low beam function intact?? Sorry I'm still dumb. :bonk:

But if the 3-geners switch to bmw style, then anything is possible beucase they use one for high and one for low? So we can get hid for hi and low? :bonk:

WoodEar Oct 19, 2000 10:36 AM

HID high beam is possible, the new 911TT and MB CL600 use Bi-xenon, you get both hi and lo.
I don't think you can have 9004 HID conversion and not lose high beam.

Albertt Oct 19, 2000 11:54 AM

Jeff: Here the skinny >>
 
HID laighting requires a high startup voltage, somewhere in the order of 20000 volts. THe steady state voltage falls to about 7000 to 9000 volts after the gas inside the tube reaches it's operating temperature. The reason why high beam HID lighting wouldn't work is that the response (the time it takes for the gas to heat up compared to when you flick the switch) is too slow with HID lighting.

Next time you get a chance, turn on a car's HID lighting after it's bee sitting for a few hours. Notice how the headlights actually flicker on and the intensity of the light starts quite purple and no at as bright.

The way the newer cars have accomplished HID high beams is though electro-mechanical controls. There is actually one bulb. But the housing sits on a lever that is activated by small motors. When the driver flicks the high beam switch, the motor actually re-aims the housings upwards. Philips, Hella and Sylvania (all OEM headlight suppliers) are currently working on making these for more models. Cars in Europe have used these systems for a few years, except that they motors only serve to lower the low beam pattern when the computer senses heavy loads in the rear of the car. This is to prevent the glare you get when you sit below the beam cutoff.

got rice? Oct 19, 2000 08:13 PM

Re: Jeff: Here the skinny >>
 

Originally posted by Albertt
HID laighting requires a high startup voltage, somewhere in the order of 20000 volts. THe steady state voltage falls to about 7000 to 9000 volts after the gas inside the tube reaches it's operating temperature.
actually, it drops from 20,000 volts to 12 volts within a minute.


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