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ne max Feb 4, 2002 12:58 PM

is there a more conservative spring than h&r's?
 
i'm prob one of the only max owners who is looking for this, but does anyone make a spring that is SOFTER and DOESN'T DROP the max as much as h&r's? i know my best bet would be stock SE springs (i have gle springs) but the car sits so high with them.
..please don't flame me for asking this but what about cutting just one coil from the SE springs? would this still be dangerous? when i did a search, people kept saying cutting springs is bad, but in response to people with aftermarket springs and wanting to cut 2 or more coils. also, i think the se springs have 2 coils that are sitting on top of each other - wouldn't it be ok then to cut one because it's acting as a spacer? thanks.

Sprint Feb 4, 2002 01:01 PM

http://64.252.159.123/images/usesearch.jpg

NmexMAX Feb 4, 2002 01:08 PM

is that girls name Gauge?:naughty:

BlancMax Feb 4, 2002 01:33 PM

Re: is there a more conservative spring than h&r's?
 

Originally posted by ne max
i'm prob one of the only max owners who is looking for this, but does anyone make a spring that is SOFTER and DOESN'T DROP the max as much as h&r's?
I'm in the same boat. I want to lose the 4X4 look, but I don't want to drop 2 inches. I would like the KYB AGXs and a spring that is softer with at most an inch of drop. I feel your pain! :bawling:

Nick97SE Feb 4, 2002 02:13 PM

Try coilovers...you can adjust the height to exactly what you want.

soundmike Feb 4, 2002 02:46 PM

Hmm... H&R's would be the most conservative and still retains SE-ride like quality.

It drops approximately 1.4" in front and around 1.2-.3 inches in the back.

B&G are also good. Eibach's have a drop that's more up your alley but from what i gathered they're rather harsh in terms of ride quality.

SuDZ Feb 4, 2002 03:17 PM


Originally posted by Nick97SE
Try coilovers...you can adjust the height to exactly what you want.
But costs a lot more. That is what turns some people away from them. I dont know about their situation if it would be best for them or not since coilovers are sometimes a little rougher.

SuDZ

ne max Feb 4, 2002 04:03 PM

yup i know about coilovers, but the cost amazing amounts of money that i don't have, and i am looking for a ride that is softer than H&R's and drops less than 1.5 inches. i figured there are no springs out there but i was just making sure that i didn't somehow miss the presence of springs that fit the bill.

what are your thoughts on cutting the first coil off the SE spring? this is the last thing i can think of for my situation. thanks again.

xHypex Feb 4, 2002 08:12 PM

Just to reply to sprint you CAN'T search for a lot of spring info :P I am very interested in H&R and B+G springs, however both are under the character minimum which makes it very hard to search for relevant info. Eibach no problem, but unless you want to search for every instance of the word "Spring" or "lowering" you're SOL :P
-hype

Sprint Feb 4, 2002 08:16 PM


Originally posted by xHypex
Just to reply to sprint you CAN'T search for a lot of spring info :P I am very interested in H&R and B+G springs, however both are under the character minimum which makes it very hard to search for relevant info. Eibach no problem, but unless you want to search for every instance of the word "Spring" or "lowering" you're SOL :P
-hype

http://forums.maxima.org/search.php?...der=descending

xHypex Feb 4, 2002 08:29 PM

"The search term you specified (bg) is under the minimum word length (3) and therefore will not be found. Please make this term longer. "

I guess my prob was just with B+G. You can't even search for B+G when you put quotes "B+G".
-hype

Sprint Feb 4, 2002 08:34 PM


Originally posted by xHypex
"The search term you specified (bg) is under the minimum word length (3) and therefore will not be found. Please make this term longer. "

I guess my prob was just with B+G. You can't even search for B+G when you put quotes "B+G".
-hype

i used B&G

ne max Feb 5, 2002 06:57 AM

yes, but:

h&r - 1.4", 1.3"
vs.
b&g - 1.6", 1.6"
maxspeed - 1.7", 1.4"

b&g and maxspeed both drop even lower than h&r's, i am looking for springs that DON'T LOWER as much as h&r's.

soundmike Feb 5, 2002 07:30 AM

Check the stickies, bigdogjonx has a post comparing all spring height rates.


Originally posted by ne max


yes, but:

h&r - 1.4", 1.3"
vs.
b&g - 1.6", 1.6"
maxspeed - 1.7", 1.4"

b&g and maxspeed both drop even lower than h&r's, i am looking for springs that DON'T LOWER as much as h&r's.


Sprint Feb 5, 2002 07:34 AM


Originally posted by ne max


yes, but:

h&r - 1.4", 1.3"
vs.
b&g - 1.6", 1.6"
maxspeed - 1.7", 1.4"

b&g and maxspeed both drop even lower than h&r's, i am looking for springs that DON'T LOWER as much as h&r's.

no that response was to brother xHypex

FYI - you cut stock springs and they will ride harsher than Ground Control Coilovers set at 3 inch drop

BriGuyMax Feb 5, 2002 07:38 AM


Originally posted by ne max


yes, but:

h&r - 1.4", 1.3"
vs.
b&g - 1.6", 1.6"
maxspeed - 1.7", 1.4"

b&g and maxspeed both drop even lower than h&r's, i am looking for springs that DON'T LOWER as much as h&r's.

have you ever RIDDEN in or SEEN a Maxima with H&R springs??? They don't even look lower...and when used in conjunction with a good strut they ride like stock springs. What's the problem here?? What you need is H&R springs and a good set of struts, you're just in denial for some reason.

Sprint Feb 5, 2002 07:41 AM


Originally posted by BriGuyMax


have you ever RIDDEN in or SEEN a Maxima with H&R springs??? They don't even look lower...and when used in conjunction with a good strut they ride like stock springs. What's the problem here?? What you need is H&R springs and a good set of struts, you're just in denial for some reason.

I agree.. H&R's ride better than stock springs.. they have better cushioning and better road control

for sHo Feb 5, 2002 08:58 AM

Yeah why would you wanna go softer than H&R? Might as well keep what you got right now then. I don't think there is any spring out there less lower/more softer than H&R and even if there was that would defeat the whole purpose of lowering your car (whether it's for handling or looks). So H&R plus some good struts (KYB AGX) is your answer. :)

ne max Feb 5, 2002 09:31 AM


Originally posted by BriGuyMax


have you ever RIDDEN in or SEEN a Maxima with H&R springs??? They don't even look lower...and when used in conjunction with a good strut they ride like stock springs. What's the problem here?? What you need is H&R springs and a good set of struts, you're just in denial for some reason.

i've ridden in my friend's max with both h&r springs and agx's and it wasn't too bad except over bumpy roads (in nyc) where it jarred the car a lot. if you say they ride like stock, i dunno maybe his shocks were set too firm? i've also read a couple of threads where people were getting tired of the harshness of this setup. also, we just had some snow in upstate ny last week and the roads turned icy. the ice/snow was scraping against the bottom of my car and this is with stock "4x4" ground clearance, so i was just wondering if there were any "conservative" springs out there but there aren't.

ne max Feb 5, 2002 09:33 AM


Originally posted by SprintMax
no that response was to brother xHypex

FYI - you cut stock springs and they will ride harsher than Ground Control Coilovers set at 3 inch drop

ok, thanks for the info sprintmax

Sprint Feb 5, 2002 09:37 AM

it was probably his dampering adjustment..

because i had H&R's and Tokico's (non adjustable) on my 95 and they rode smooth.. no problems with speed bumps or pot holes.. i used to go to NYC every weekend to Carolines Comedy Club(50th and Broadway where this weekend Tommy Davidson is performing.. call (212) 757-4100 for reservation) and it rode great.. my gf loved it too

SuDZ Feb 5, 2002 01:00 PM

What is the ride like in coilovers? I mean is it comparable to a certain spring or anything or is it a harsh ride?

SuDZ

ne max Feb 5, 2002 01:08 PM


Originally posted by SprintMax
it was probably his dampering adjustment..

because i had H&R's and Tokico's (non adjustable) on my 95 and they rode smooth.. no problems with speed bumps or pot holes.. i used to go to NYC every weekend to Carolines Comedy Club(50th and Broadway where this weekend Tommy Davidson is performing.. call (212) 757-4100 for reservation) and it rode great.. my gf loved it too

gotta love free advertising :p

for sHo Feb 5, 2002 01:30 PM


Originally posted by SprintMax
it was probably his dampering adjustment..

because i had H&R's and Tokico's (non adjustable) on my 95 and they rode smooth.. no problems with speed bumps or pot holes.. i used to go to NYC every weekend to Carolines Comedy Club(50th and Broadway where this weekend Tommy Davidson is performing.. call (212) 757-4100 for reservation) and it rode great.. my gf loved it too

And once again we see that WORD OF MOUTH is the best form of advertising. :laugh: :eek: :gapteeth:

SuDZ Feb 5, 2002 02:46 PM


Originally posted by ne max


gotta love free advertising :p

shameless plug.

SuDZ

Sprint Feb 5, 2002 04:27 PM

who is advertising? :confused:

Cutler Feb 5, 2002 04:43 PM

Look at Maxspeed as as your other alternative

theMax Feb 5, 2002 08:56 PM


Originally posted by Cutlr7
Look at Maxspeed as as your other alternative
Maxspeed is by far the least expensive. Look in the group deal forum. We're trying to get another group deal on these springs for $85-$95.

xHypex Feb 5, 2002 09:09 PM

Price is important to me, but quality is as well. There's also a sale in the GD forum for most shocks/springs at shox.com
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....threadid=96449
-hype

theMax Feb 5, 2002 09:14 PM


Originally posted by xHypex
Price is important to me, but quality is as well. There's also a sale in the GD forum for most shocks/springs at shox.com
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....threadid=96449
-hype

Good prices there also!

Just because the Maxspeed springs are half the price doesn't mean they are not quality products.

I debated on this also, but can't find anything but good experiences.


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