Engine choices
02-16-2005, 02:40 PM
#2
Originally Posted by paultyler_82
Hey all, I was just curious to know if anyone had attempted any type of engine conversions, such as the VQ30DET from Japanese Leopards, Cimas, and Cedrics or the VQ30DETT from the 300ZX's
02-16-2005, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by i30ds
90-96 300ZX had the VE not the VQ.
There aren't too many engine swap choices available for the I30&Maxima...but step back for a second and ask youself, why is this a concern? The VQ is a masterpiece of engineering and has been proven a performer both in stock form and modified. The only swap I'd contemplate would be a VQ30DE to VQ35DE conversion....other than that, it's kinda pointless. You'd be better off building up a VQ with heavy duty internals and turbo/supercharging if you really needed that much more power.
The JDM VQ30DET (from the Gloria & Cedric?) does not swap in to the Maixma/I30/I35. It's a RWD block, and the A32 and A33 cars are all FWD. However, you can swap the internals from a VQ30DET into a VQ30DE - this has already been done successfully.
Hope this answers your question somewhat.
02-16-2005, 03:45 PM
#4
Originally Posted by MaxKlinger
Sorry guys, the 300ZX had the VG30DETT.
There aren't too many engine swap choices available for the I30&Maxima...but step back for a second and ask youself, why is this a concern? The VQ is a masterpiece of engineering and has been proven a performer both in stock form and modified. The only swap I'd contemplate would be a VQ30DE to VQ35DE conversion....other than that, it's kinda pointless. You'd be better off building up a VQ with heavy duty internals and turbo/supercharging if you really needed that much more power.
The JDM VQ30DET (from the Gloria & Cedric?) does not swap in to the Maixma/I30/I35. It's a RWD block, and the A32 and A33 cars are all FWD. However, you can swap the internals from a VQ30DET into a VQ30DE - this has already been done successfully.
Hope this answers your question somewhat.
There aren't too many engine swap choices available for the I30&Maxima...but step back for a second and ask youself, why is this a concern? The VQ is a masterpiece of engineering and has been proven a performer both in stock form and modified. The only swap I'd contemplate would be a VQ30DE to VQ35DE conversion....other than that, it's kinda pointless. You'd be better off building up a VQ with heavy duty internals and turbo/supercharging if you really needed that much more power.
The JDM VQ30DET (from the Gloria & Cedric?) does not swap in to the Maixma/I30/I35. It's a RWD block, and the A32 and A33 cars are all FWD. However, you can swap the internals from a VQ30DET into a VQ30DE - this has already been done successfully.
Hope this answers your question somewhat.
02-16-2005, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by i30ds
NO... it is E NOT G !!! G is the SOHC that came in the 89-94 NON SE Maximas rated at 160 hp. Get your **** straight.
First, take a look at Freshalloy's engine matrix:
http://www.freshalloy.com/site/featu...nes/home.shtml
It isn't 100% complete (it doesn't list the 3rd Gen Maxima GXE as having the VG30E, the SOHC motor you speak of) but the information is has is largely accurate.
As you can see, the 89-96 300ZX did in fact have the DOHC, Twin Turbo version of the VG motor. Read about the VG30DETT here:
http://www.autospeed.com/cms/A_1966/article.html
The VE30DE was only offered for three years as the 190HP motor for the Maxima SE in '92, '93, and '94. It was never used in any other application on the US market.
The VG motor has been used in a variety of applications. Until recently, the Xterra and Frontier were still using the supercharged version of the VG motor (they might still be using it now, but they're phasing it out...I'm not sure when the last year is/will be). The VG30DE (DOHC) was used in the Infiniti J30 and the N/A 300ZX. The Twin Turbo Z had the VG30DETT.
Originally Posted by i30ds
G is the SOHC that came in the 89-94 NON SE Maximas rated at 160 hp.
I hope this helps you get your sh*t straight.
02-16-2005, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by kcryan
drop a chevy 572 CI in there thats what im doin
02-17-2005, 07:16 AM
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There's a guy here on the org (I can't recall his name) who bought a JDM VQ30DET from a RWD Cedric or Gloria or something like that and had it shipped here. He bought the entire engine and then dismantled it completely. He also disassembled his own VQ30DE and then rebuilt his car's original block with the internals from the DET.
I'm sure you can have a VQ30DET shipped from an overseas, but it's going to cost you a little bit more. The Sentra/Altima/G20/240SX guys do it all the time to get SR20DET's from Japan. Personally I wouldn't attempt this project unless I had another car to drive.
Recently a friend of mine had a black S13 240SX for sale, the body was perfect but the engine and trans were pretty beat...he only wanted a grand for it, I was SOOOO tempted to buy it and do an SR20DET swap. Time was on my side because I have the Maxima as my daily driver, but I just don't have the space to do it right now. Someday...
I'm sure you can have a VQ30DET shipped from an overseas, but it's going to cost you a little bit more. The Sentra/Altima/G20/240SX guys do it all the time to get SR20DET's from Japan. Personally I wouldn't attempt this project unless I had another car to drive.
Recently a friend of mine had a black S13 240SX for sale, the body was perfect but the engine and trans were pretty beat...he only wanted a grand for it, I was SOOOO tempted to buy it and do an SR20DET swap. Time was on my side because I have the Maxima as my daily driver, but I just don't have the space to do it right now. Someday...
02-17-2005, 11:59 AM
#12
Originally Posted by MaxKlinger
Dude...I'm sorry, but you really need to do some research before you start swearing at people.
First, take a look at Freshalloy's engine matrix:
http://www.freshalloy.com/site/featu...nes/home.shtml
It isn't 100% complete (it doesn't list the 3rd Gen Maxima GXE as having the VG30E, the SOHC motor you speak of) but the information is has is largely accurate.
As you can see, the 89-96 300ZX did in fact have the DOHC, Twin Turbo version of the VG motor. Read about the VG30DETT here:
http://www.autospeed.com/cms/A_1966/article.html
The VE30DE was only offered for three years as the 190HP motor for the Maxima SE in '92, '93, and '94. It was never used in any other application on the US market.
The VG motor has been used in a variety of applications. Until recently, the Xterra and Frontier were still using the supercharged version of the VG motor (they might still be using it now, but they're phasing it out...I'm not sure when the last year is/will be). The VG30DE (DOHC) was used in the Infiniti J30 and the N/A 300ZX. The Twin Turbo Z had the VG30DETT.
The G in VG does not mean SOHC. The absence of a D after the displacement numbers (VG30E vs VG30DE) means it's SOHC. The D signifies that it's a DOHC motor. The "VG" is just the name of the block design, just like "VQ" is the block design for 4th, 5th and 6th Gen Maximas. More detail on Nissan's engine nomenclature can be found here:http://www.freshalloy.com/site/featu...me_codes.shtml
I hope this helps you get your sh*t straight.
First, take a look at Freshalloy's engine matrix:
http://www.freshalloy.com/site/featu...nes/home.shtml
It isn't 100% complete (it doesn't list the 3rd Gen Maxima GXE as having the VG30E, the SOHC motor you speak of) but the information is has is largely accurate.
As you can see, the 89-96 300ZX did in fact have the DOHC, Twin Turbo version of the VG motor. Read about the VG30DETT here:
http://www.autospeed.com/cms/A_1966/article.html
The VE30DE was only offered for three years as the 190HP motor for the Maxima SE in '92, '93, and '94. It was never used in any other application on the US market.
The VG motor has been used in a variety of applications. Until recently, the Xterra and Frontier were still using the supercharged version of the VG motor (they might still be using it now, but they're phasing it out...I'm not sure when the last year is/will be). The VG30DE (DOHC) was used in the Infiniti J30 and the N/A 300ZX. The Twin Turbo Z had the VG30DETT.
The G in VG does not mean SOHC. The absence of a D after the displacement numbers (VG30E vs VG30DE) means it's SOHC. The D signifies that it's a DOHC motor. The "VG" is just the name of the block design, just like "VQ" is the block design for 4th, 5th and 6th Gen Maximas. More detail on Nissan's engine nomenclature can be found here:http://www.freshalloy.com/site/featu...me_codes.shtml
I hope this helps you get your sh*t straight.
I am aware that the D stands for DOHC. I never called the SOHC maxima engine a "VG30DE".
Since the Z runs the VG and not the VE, it just lost a lot of respect in my mind. We have an engine that is far superior in almost every aspect.
02-17-2005, 10:41 PM
#15
Originally Posted by paultyler_82
So then, the internals and Head from the VQ30DET can be swapped, can all the piping for the turbo be used as well? And I may be misinformed, but wasn'
t the VQ30DET a quad cam engine?
t the VQ30DET a quad cam engine?
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