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carsnwomen91 12-21-2012 09:22 AM

Balls... O well. hooold on, what are you swapping the 00vi for?!? Did u find a way to put on the 3.5 kinitex ssim? you shall be crowned king of vq30 lol you're the only one still finding ways to squeeze out power n/a out of it while everyone has gone 3.5 <--- losers lol

schmellyfart 12-21-2012 01:46 PM

lol putting a 3.5 kinetix im on the 3.0 is the same process as a stock vq35 im.

carsnwomen91 12-23-2012 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by schmellyfart (Post 8690680)
lol putting a 3.5 kinetix im on the 3.0 is the same process as a stock vq35 im.

are you saying it bolts up to the 5th gen lim? And aren't the ports circular not oval like the vq30?

aackshun 12-24-2012 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by carsnwomen91 (Post 8691859)
are you saying it bolts up to the 5th gen lim? And aren't the ports circular not oval like the vq30?

Nope.

He's saying it's the same thing as putting on a 3.5L IM on a 3.0.

:lol:

schmellyfart 12-24-2012 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by aackshun (Post 8692139)
Nope.

He's saying it's the same thing as putting on a 3.5L IM on a 3.0.

:lol:

This.

http://forums.maxima.org/all-motor/5...os-inside.html

tl;dr head porting and rear vc/coil shenanigans.

carsnwomen91 12-24-2012 07:40 PM

ooo lol ok. cool, thanks for the read i'm getting started on it now... kinda second thinking cause it might make me want to do more to the max lol!

EDIT: woah thats too much for me. my 00vi was like 90% bolt on kit with all block off plates etc. , cake lol

it would be good if crusher103 had an 00vi swapped 4th gen for butt dyno comparison of both vi's. seems like it would make a lil more power than 00vi but then you can do this http://forums.maxima.org/all-motor/6...yno-gains.html and then who knows how much you'll gain up top! anyways hats off to you sir, i'm sure you'll get her done successfully! good luck dude

schmellyfart 12-25-2012 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by carsnwomen91 (Post 8692380)
ooo lol ok. cool, thanks for the read i'm getting started on it now... kinda second thinking cause it might make me want to do more to the max lol!

EDIT: woah thats too much for me. my 00vi was like 90% bolt on kit with all block off plates etc. , cake lol

it would be good if crusher103 had an 00vi swapped 4th gen for butt dyno comparison of both vi's. seems like it would make a lil more power than 00vi but then you can do this http://forums.maxima.org/all-motor/6...yno-gains.html and then who knows how much you'll gain up top! anyways hats off to you sir, i'm sure you'll get her done successfully! good luck dude

ehh there hasn't been any proof that it makes power over an ssim. I'll wait on that.

schmellyfart 01-02-2013 12:46 AM

The car is chillin on jack stands to bring in the new year.
:run:

aackshun 01-02-2013 07:28 AM

Jackstand...
http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia.../ff/Ballin.gif

schmellyfart 01-02-2013 10:03 AM

:lol:

schmellyfart 02-21-2013 07:04 PM


D I R T Y I 3 0 02-28-2013 12:52 PM

THats quick!

MoncefA33 02-28-2013 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by carsnwomen91 (Post 8690498)
Balls... O well. hooold on, what are you swapping the 00vi for?!? Did u find a way to put on the 3.5 kinitex ssim? you shall be crowned king of vq30 lol you're the only one still finding ways to squeeze out power n/a out of it while everyone has gone 3.5 <--- losers lol

Yawn. :o

I think Dandymax is the king of the VQ30 still.

I'm heir to the throne though. :cool:

Dope car, smelly. Can't wait to see more progress.

Grand_hustle17 02-28-2013 02:13 PM

looks good @ schmelly.. that wheel spin makes it look even quicker lol

schmellyfart 02-28-2013 04:07 PM


Originally Posted by MoncefA33 (Post 8738182)
Yawn. :o

I think Dandymax is the king of the VQ30 still.

I'm heir to the throne though. :cool:

Dope car, smelly. Can't wait to see more progress.

Couldn't agree more. :D

Originally Posted by Grand_hustle17 (Post 8738226)
looks good @ schmelly.. that wheel spin makes it look even quicker lol

lol makes it look quicker but move slower.

schmellyfart 03-06-2013 04:23 PM

Just FYI - If you leave your TPS unplugged, the ECU will automatically think you are at 92% throttle.

Pretty clever fail-safe if you think about it.

schmellyfart 03-11-2013 09:45 AM

http://www.flickr.com/photos/schmellyfart/8548389795/http://www.flickr.com/photos/schmellyfart/8548389795/ by http://www.flickr.com/people/schmellyfart/, on Flickr

Return setup on 3.5 fuel rail, dek injectors, dek fpr, and same fuel rail adapter I used on the dek rail with the 00vi. 3.0de tb and no iacv for now. Untuned for now.

schmellyfart 03-31-2013 04:38 PM

deez nuts
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8533/...a237fdd5_b.jpg

schmellyfart 05-08-2013 11:28 PM

Managed 28.4 mpg 35% hwy. Still haven't reinstalled my undertray or bbmaf.

schmellyfart 05-27-2013 11:12 AM

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D I R T Y I 3 0 05-27-2013 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by schmellyfart (Post 8797230)

Hello.

schmellyfart 05-27-2013 04:56 PM

Only thing that sucks is I just bought some new 245s for my RX7 wheels a week or two ago and got Discount to put a 30k mile warranty on them for free.

I'd like to daily the Millenia wheels for wicked mpgs since the 245s seem to have brought my average down per tank by 1-2 mpg.

It would be nice to throw some drag radials or slicks on the Millenia wheels too.

Decisions, decisions.

D I R T Y I 3 0 05-27-2013 09:07 PM


Originally Posted by schmellyfart (Post 8797416)
Only thing that sucks is I just bought some new 245s for my RX7 wheels a week or two ago and got Discount to put a 30k mile warranty on them for free.

I'd like to daily the Millenia wheels for wicked mpgs since the 245s seem to have brought my average down per tank by 1-2 mpg.

It would be nice to throw some drag radials or slicks on the Millenia wheels too.

Decisions, decisions.

Hmm that is a toughie. Well, since I'm not meticulous about MPG I would daily the RX7s and keep the millenia's as drag slicks. RX7s look better

schmellyfart 05-28-2013 07:00 PM

The RX7's definitely look better.
I think I'll find a cheap set of tires and see how I like dailying the 15s. And swap them out every now and then until the 245s wear down.

D I R T Y I 3 0 05-28-2013 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by schmellyfart (Post 8798041)
The RX7's definitely look better.
I think I'll find a cheap set of tires and see how I like dailying the 15s. And swap them out every now and then until the 245s wear down.

That actually sounds pretty good

schmellyfart 05-30-2013 06:02 PM

Just filled up this morning, 26.9 mpg with the 245s. Not as bad as I thought it was.

Max139617 05-30-2013 06:09 PM


Originally Posted by schmellyfart (Post 8799468)
Just filled up this morning, 26.9 mpg with the 245s. Not as bad as I thought it was.


damn you, I'm happy when I get 13 mpg in nyc. and im stock too:bawling:

carsnwomen91 06-01-2013 01:56 AM


Originally Posted by schmellyfart (Post 8799468)
Just filled up this morning, 26.9 mpg with the 245s. Not as bad as I thought it was.

This must be hwy mileage cause i can only get it down to 11L/100km being frugal. I usually do 11.6-12

schmellyfart 06-01-2013 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by Max139617 (Post 8799469)
damn you, I'm happy when I get 13 mpg in nyc. and im stock too:bawling:

There's your problem, I hear nyc city traffic is terrible.

Originally Posted by carsnwomen91 (Post 8800202)
This must be hwy mileage cause i can only get it down to 11L/100km being frugal. I usually do 11.6-12

Only ~100 of the 400 miles were highway. Everything else was city under 50mph

niceguy 06-02-2013 12:03 PM

Has it been a painful process achieving that kind of fuel economy? I'm envisioning shifting at 1500-2000 rpm, near hyper miling driving habits, etc?? Oh btw, are you leaving the line jumping from 1st gear to 4th or something?

Just curious as I used to try to wrangle every mpg out of my cars but completely hated driving while doing it lol. That being said, you've achieved some very impressive numbers considering the displacement, and it doesn't hurt that the 4th gen is 500-1000lbs lighter than the average mid/full size sedan nowadays...

It's always funny how manufacturers scream out hwy numbers while city fuel economy is whispered in the fine print where gearing, aero, etc can't do as much good...

schmellyfart 06-02-2013 04:24 PM

Not at all, quite honestly I love it because the $5-$10 I save per tank can be put towards other fun mods. If anything was painful, it was certainly when I was only getting 22 mpg after swapping the 3.5 in, especially coming from being able to easily and consistently get 27-29 mpg with the 3.0.

I do employ a lot of hypermiling techniques, but a lot of it has become second nature by now. I leave 5-10 minutes early so I'm not tempted to step on it to arrive in time. Reduce idle time as much as possible, coast, read ahead into traffic and stoplights. I don't draft. I usually shift around 2000-2200 rpm at 10-12% throttle and I don't skip gears. I monitor my mpg with a scangauge II and adjust my driving habits accordingly.

I do get on the throttle every now and then, a few times per tank will not make a huge difference over 350 miles.

aackshun 06-03-2013 06:23 AM

Maaan I miss the good ol days w/ getting 28-29 in traffic w/ the red car.

I am sad to say the results were not repeated w/ the white car's 6MT swap, even though MPG did go up by 3-4 all the way around (22mpg 5mt to 26mpg 6mt in the city), just nowhere near as epic as before.

schmellyfart 06-03-2013 07:12 PM

Well, at least the jump is still there. Spec V Final drive in the white car as well?

I have long term plans for a 6mt swap, just not sure of which FD would be best for me. My ultimate goal is to be able to average low 30s city.

aackshun 06-04-2013 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by schmellyfart (Post 8801682)
Well, at least the jump is still there. Spec V Final drive in the white car as well?

I have long term plans for a 6mt swap, just not sure of which FD would be best for me. My ultimate goal is to be able to average low 30s city.

4.1 Final Drive in both cars, yes.

I sold the car w/ the maxima 3.7 FD though, no idea what MPG it's getting now.

And now it's getting 3.5 swapped, soooo yeah mpg would be a big who-knows.

Long term? Need to make those short term, best mod to date IMO has been the 6mt swap, but then again I have yet to own a 3.5 swapped car, that swap may rival the 6mt swap in terms of overall improvement.

schmellyfart 06-04-2013 05:52 PM

I didn't know you had one with a 3.7 FD. Which car was that?

I'm holding out until I can find a 6mt at the jy or someone else that's not asking an arm and a leg for it.

schmellyfart 06-07-2013 02:05 PM

Got a set of tires mounted on the millenia wheels, can't wait to put 'em on and see what it does to my fuel economy :)

niceguy 06-08-2013 04:17 PM

That's still really impressive fuel economy guys especially considering the power you guys are making...
I don't have a Max anymore but still tinker with my old beater '93 Altima 2.4 (future FI project) and being only a 4spd auto, I dropped in the 4.08 FD with shorter 1-3 gearing from the 2001 Altima and it's terrible lol! Even driving conservatively, it's only getting about 21 city with intake/header/2.25" catback and only a few more on the hwy since it's turning 3300rpm at 70!
It used to get 25 city and 36 hwy w/the stock 3.59FD and pre E10 fuel...

It's a fun little car in the city but the auto has to go soon...sorry for the threadjack schmelly.

schmellyfart 06-08-2013 05:53 PM

That's awful, especially from an I4! How much do those cars weigh?

schmellyfart 06-09-2013 02:31 PM

A total of 44lbs lighter then my rx7 wheels.
205/65R15 on the Millenias
245/50R16 on the RX7s

And no, I don't care how bad they look compared to the RX7 wheels.

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2868/...b782f4c3_b.jpg

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3821/...1808999e_b.jpg

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7436/...740cc8fb_b.jpg

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3667/...5560903a_b.jpg

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7354/...5f9dde9e_b.jpg

Fakie J Farkerton 06-09-2013 02:32 PM

I bet those spin at half throttle. :lol:


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