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Old Aug 4, 2002 | 08:47 AM
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Highway run - 2k2 against Accord V6

Well, despite the damage caused by the city I decided to take my 6-spd out for a drive on Friday.

Hopped onto the 4-lane highway near our house and was cruising at 120 km/h when I see this Accord come up on me fast. I pull over into the right lane and let the car pass. It's a V6 sedan being driven by some middle-aged woman and she was haulin!

I drop back in behind her and resume my cruise. She ends up behind some other car further down the road doing like 110 km/h in the left hand lane, so I catch up to her and this moron. This idiot is just sitting there and not pulling over, so as soon as the right lane clears up I drop into the right hand lane and zip around the Accord and this other car.

Chicky sees me do this and does the same and before long she's on my *** and there a bunch of slow moving cars in the right hand lane now. So I speed up to 130, 140, 150 km/h and she is still on my ***. Little girl want to play?

Drop into 5th gear and I floor it. She tries to keep up but the gap just keeps growing. "So long, farewell..." At about 10 car lengths I shut it down and pull back into the right lane, which has now opened up. She goes zipping past going 180 km/h - more power to you lady.
Old Aug 4, 2002 | 10:04 AM
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good kill.......i hear next years accord will be 240HP, 6spd and can hit 60(mph) in less than 6
Old Aug 4, 2002 | 12:42 PM
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Originally posted by 95emeraldgxe
good kill.......i hear next years accord will be 240HP, 6spd and can hit 60(mph) in less than 6
You've heard correctly...I read about it in Sport Compact Car I believe...its touted as a direct attack against our sibling the V6 Altima...at least Honda is attempting to respond fairly quickly to the new hot thing on the V6 market. We'll see how they match up once they get here...
Old Aug 5, 2002 | 11:45 AM
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I'm more concerned about the next-gen Golf - 3.2L V6, 240 hp, 236 ft-lbs and with a 6-spd.

I think we need to resign ourselves to the fact that the import are playing catch-up with Nissan and we will soon find ourself with some competition. Just waiting for that TRD Camry to come out...

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good kill.......i hear next years accord will be 240HP, 6spd and can hit 60(mph) in less than 6
Old Aug 5, 2002 | 12:51 PM
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[i] Just waiting for that TRD Camry to come out...

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It's already available. I bought my Sienna in 2000 and the dealer had a TRD Camry, black/black, s/c, exhaust, tint, suspension, etc for about 31K. sweet.
Old Aug 5, 2002 | 02:05 PM
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but 4 31 k, id rather buy a used gs300. like a 2000.
Old Aug 5, 2002 | 04:22 PM
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HA, nice run

I had a similar "kill" against my former ride a couple of weeks ago. 95-02 Accord V6's are weak as hell. Beware of the new ones though. 240HP
Old Aug 5, 2002 | 05:53 PM
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Originally posted by Eric
I'm more concerned about the next-gen Golf - 3.2L V6, 240 hp, 236 ft-lbs and with a 6-spd.

Heed Eric's words, if this model of the Golf comes to the USA, LOOK OUT!! Luckily, it's only in Europe. I have no doubt it'll be about as quick as the 350Z.
Old Aug 5, 2002 | 07:20 PM
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Unless I misread the article in Automobile, this is going to be available in North America and will be replacing the 2.8 VR6 in the line-up for the next generation Golf.

They do have a killer current gen Golf available only in Europe right now called the R32 with what seems to be the same 3.2L v6 and a 6 spd.

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Heed Eric's words, if this model of the Golf comes to the USA, LOOK OUT!! Luckily, it's only in Europe. I have no doubt it'll be about as quick as the 350Z.
Old Aug 6, 2002 | 05:06 AM
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Originally posted by 95emeraldgxe
good kill.......i hear next years accord will be 240HP, 6spd and can hit 60(mph) in less than 6
Funny, how the automags have already tested the new Accord for 0-60 & 1/4 times... yet none of them have done a complete test on our 2k2Max...

hmmmm...

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Old Aug 6, 2002 | 07:00 AM
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Motor Trend had a review of the new accord 3.0L V6. 240 hp @6750rpm and 212 ft. lbs of torque at @ 5000 rpm and a 5 speed automatic. Not bad for a 3.0 but in honda fashion peak torque comes late in the powerband. The V6 Accord coupe with the six-speed manual transmission is interesting and worth a look IMO. But for a few grand more I think I would step up to the 350Z and tradeoff utility for performance.
Old Aug 6, 2002 | 07:36 AM
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Here's what thecarconnection.com had to say regarding the new Accord V6 compared to our VQ35.

Still, the V-6 is better. This is the same 3.0-liter, SOHC, 24-valve V-6 offered last year, but extensively tweaked to make more power. A compression ratio bump from 9.4:1 to 10.0:1 works in conjunction with a revised VTEC system, “high-inertia” intake manifold and low restriction exhaust to bounce output from last year’s 200-horsepower to a full 240 this year. And the V-6 continues to operate on regular-grade fuel. The V-6 also gets new transmissions with all sedans and most coupes getting a five-speed automatic and a few sport-oriented coupes getting a six-speed manual.

The V-6 is terrifically silken and effortlessly athletic, but it’s not the most muscular V-6 out there. While the Accord V-6 matches the 3.5-liter V-6 in the Altima in making 240 horsepower, the Nissan has a significant advantage in low-end torque production. The Accord V-6 makes its peak 212 lb-ft of torque at 5000 rpm, while the Altima V-6’s peak 246 lb-ft come at just 4400 rpm. The Honda’s automatic transmission is better and has one more gear than the Nissan’s, but the Altima engine pulls harder and sooner off the line. And our guess is that in most acceleration contests, the Altima V-6 sedan would easily overwhelm the Accord V-6 sedan


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Motor Trend had a review of the new accord 3.0L V6. 240 hp @6750rpm and 212 ft. lbs of torque at @ 5000 rpm and a 5 speed automatic. Not bad for a 3.0 but in honda fashion peak torque comes late in the powerband. The V6 Accord coupe with the six-speed manual transmission is interesting and worth a look IMO. But for a few grand more I think I would step up to the 350Z and tradeoff utility for performance.
Old Aug 6, 2002 | 10:55 AM
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oh yea, and what about us, the owners of older Maxs with 3.0 engine
Old Aug 6, 2002 | 11:03 AM
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Originally posted by Y2KMaxGXE-R
oh yea, and what about us, the owners of older Maxs with 3.0 engine
Don't cry, the vq30de-k is the best engine nissan has ever made. much better than the asthmatic vq30de or the problem stricken vq35de. We win!

Old Aug 6, 2002 | 01:10 PM
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Don't cry, the vq30de-k is the best engine nissan has ever made. much better than the asthmatic vq30de or the problem stricken vq35de. We win!

What do you mean by that, I would say that the VG series is the best and most reliable to date!
Old Aug 6, 2002 | 01:46 PM
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Originally posted by MONTE 01&97 SE
What do you mean by that, I would say that the VG series is the best and most reliable to date!
How many VQs have broken down?
Old Aug 7, 2002 | 05:56 AM
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Originally posted by Ironlord
Don't cry, the vq30de-k is the best engine nissan has ever made. much better than the asthmatic vq30de or the problem stricken vq35de. We win!

Oh really? So what about all these NVIS/VIAS failures that you DE-K guys are having? eh? hehe

VQ30DE Power! - Variable NOTHING!!! mwahahaha
Old Aug 7, 2002 | 10:32 PM
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Geez, not everyone is out there to race. Maybe she was in a rush?

A 3.0 V6 bites the dust, nice kill...I guess.
Old Aug 8, 2002 | 12:34 AM
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doesn't sound that great

Originally posted by srbarnes4ever


You've heard correctly...I read about it in Sport Compact Car I believe...its touted as a direct attack against our sibling the V6 Altima...at least Honda is attempting to respond fairly quickly to the new hot thing on the V6 market. We'll see how they match up once they get here...
This has been discussed already in another thread I think... See http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/roadt...3/article.html

Here's a quote:
During the press briefing, Baker made claims that the Accord V6 powerplant would make us forget about the new Nissan Altima's 3.5-liter V6. We beg to differ, having driven our long-term Altima 3.5 SE to the Accord launch. In contrast to the Nissan, the Honda upshifts and downshifts more fluidly and with less kick, but when the Accord's engine is revved, it fails to delight with any eagerness or urgency to rush to speed the way the Altima's V6 does. The Altima is a thrill ride when the go-pedal is mashed; the Accord is not. This, we're certain, is sure to please traditional Accord buyers, but it's not going to appeal to performance-minded folks.
Old Aug 8, 2002 | 05:48 PM
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Re: doesn't sound that great

Originally posted by cwerdna


This has been discussed already in another thread I think... See http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/roadt...3/article.html

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During the press briefing, Baker made claims that the Accord V6 powerplant would make us forget about the new Nissan Altima's 3.5-liter V6. We beg to differ, having driven our long-term Altima 3.5 SE to the Accord launch.
I agree. If anything, driving the new V6 Accord will expose the fact that its missing 35lb-ft torque versus the Alt 3.5SE. Loosely speaking, the Accord V6 won't have the kick in the pants that the Alt 3.5SE has. That said, it looks to be a pretty good car and I will be first in line to test out a V6 6speed as soon as they hit showrooms.
Old Aug 8, 2002 | 06:49 PM
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Well, we got up to 180 km/h, so I'm guessing she was more than just in a rush...

Originally posted by CoolMax
Geez, not everyone is out there to race. Maybe she was in a rush?

A 3.0 V6 bites the dust, nice kill...I guess.
Old Aug 8, 2002 | 07:12 PM
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Originally posted by 95emeraldgxe
good kill.......i hear next years accord will be 240HP, 6spd and can hit 60(mph) in less than 6
if i remember it right, 0-60 should be 6.57sec
Old Aug 8, 2002 | 07:47 PM
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V6 Altima

Originally posted by 2003max
if i remember it right, 0-60 should be 6.57sec
Motorweek got a V6 Altima w/5 speed manual doing 0-60 in 5.9 seconds.
Old Aug 8, 2002 | 09:40 PM
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Hmm...I doubt the Accord will ever see 0-60s in the 6s at all...my friend has a 2k2 V-6 Accord, and those things are dogs, through and through. I have another friend with a 2K Accord 4-Banger, and I can tell you that the 4-cylinder is almost no faster than the V-6, and we all know how fast Honda's 4-cylinders are... The Accord V-6 is in no way a threat to the 3.5 Litre VQ Nissan engines. Period. Honda is not for performance. That's not their market, and never will be.
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Well, we got up to 180 km/h, so I'm guessing she was more than just in a rush...

If I was on my merry way and some guy decided (for whatever reason) to show me who's boss, I'd prolly get a little ticked. And if I'm in a rush and some guy decides to take it up to 180 km/, I just might use him as my front door to hasten my rush.
But that's just me.
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