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Old Aug 14, 2002 | 12:52 PM
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who wants to do a 5 speed conversion?

hey, i'd like to join the club.... the auto to 5 speed club. i have a 95 gle and im seriously thinking about converting, and i guess spending around $2000 for it. Can anybody help me? I havn't started looking for parts yet, but if i know for sure that someone can help me (preferable somebody who has done it), I wouldn't mind gettin this done over winter break or summer break (im a college student). of course, u'll get $$$, and i could help out to. any help .org members? thanks guyz.
Old Aug 14, 2002 | 01:00 PM
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Contact Skeelo..I think he lives near you. If you have ABS it's going to complicate things alot more.
Old Aug 14, 2002 | 01:29 PM
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uh oh. yes i have abs. also, i've heard of problems w/ an auto ecu causing the CEL to come on? besides gettin an ecu from a 5speed, would replacing it with the JWT or G-Force aftermarket ECUs also work? Most parts I would need are new/used oem, but could you recommend any aftermarket replacements? Pacesetter STS, ACT clutch, anything else?
Old Aug 14, 2002 | 01:31 PM
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skeelo is a lil far from me.... NY it says in his profile.
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Re: who wants to do a 5 speed conversion?

Originally posted by aznsap
hey, i'd like to join the club.... the auto to 5 speed club. i have a 95 gle and im seriously thinking about converting, and i guess spending around $2000 for it. Can anybody help me? I havn't started looking for parts yet, but if i know for sure that someone can help me (preferable somebody who has done it), I wouldn't mind gettin this done over winter break or summer break (im a college student). of course, u'll get $$$, and i could help out to. any help .org members? thanks guyz.
yea im thinking going 5 speed you cant go wrong, but im wondering if cruise control will still be a feature when its converted?
Old Aug 15, 2002 | 12:56 AM
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The 5 speed converson is well worth it if you know what your doing, Chaz is working with me to get mine done , and i trust him 100%, he really knows what hes doing. The cruz is all based on who is doing it, some people know how to hook it up, some done.. lucky for my i live in the same town as the guy doing mine, so he can take his time to figure it out on my max... Good luck to you all , and hope soon you will be riding in 5 speeds too..

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Old Aug 15, 2002 | 12:56 AM
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Yeah, I plan on doing mine in a coulple of months
Old Aug 15, 2002 | 10:08 AM
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Yeah, I plan on doing mine in a coulple of months
I had mine done and everything is working just fine, even the curise.
Old Aug 15, 2002 | 10:16 AM
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The cruise control is a strange thing. I hooked it up on mine and it works. I did it the same way on meccanobles car, but it doesnt work. My car starts by pressing clutch in, his starts without. It seems as if the switch is being bypassed on the clutch, but I double checked it, and . Anyway I would have probably figured it out, but he had to have his car back asap, so I didn't get to figure any bugs out. Conversion is not for the faint of heart, its alot of work.
Old Aug 15, 2002 | 11:08 AM
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Originally posted by skeelo34
Conversion is not for the faint of heart, its alot of work.
Youve got that right...
Old Aug 16, 2002 | 09:17 AM
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Originally posted by thezcarguy


I had mine done and everything is working just fine, even the curise.
You still have cruise control as a feature. man that is awesome. How much did it cost you to do the conversion. with all the parts and labor.
Old Aug 16, 2002 | 09:57 PM
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I had mine done and everything is working just fine, even the curise.
pardon the stupid question but, how many hours or days did the job take?
Old Aug 16, 2002 | 11:30 PM
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I am wondering why people are taking the hard (and expensive) way to a manual tranny car. Instead of spending $2k on the conversion with who knows what complications and butchering your car resale value, why not pay yourselves by trading/selling your auto and buy the original thing? I see ads for 5spd Maxes all the time and they are cheaper than autos. No brainer to me!
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Originally posted by Green 2kSE
I am wondering why people are taking the hard (and expensive) way to a manual tranny car. Instead of spending $2k on the conversion with who knows what complications and butchering your car resale value, why not pay yourselves by trading/selling your auto and buy the original thing? I see ads for 5spd Maxes all the time and they are cheaper than autos. No brainer to me!
Alot of our maximas have alot of miles, arnt worth as much as the dealers are charging for there maxima, plus the converson is only a little over a grand, that sounds like a good deal to me, i get a 5 speed, i dont have to make payments on a newer, maxima, and i get a tranny with less miles
Old Aug 16, 2002 | 11:40 PM
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Alot of our maximas have alot of miles, arnt worth as much as the dealers are charging for there maxima, plus the converson is only a little over a grand, that sounds like a good deal to me, i get a 5 speed, i dont have to make payments on a newer, maxima, and i get a tranny with less miles
you got that right! plus its a sentimental value involved. You've had your car for years and you did all this work on it, u know everything about it from back to front and you're going to trade that and start all over? plus, you know you are getting a new clutch, new cylinders, and you have everything. Selling your car, you'll throw away atleast a thousand off the value even WITH the mods you worked so hard to put on compared to getting a trans with wayy less miles than you originally had on car (110,000 vs 54,000 for me) and new clutch and you KNOW car will run properly except the FEW problems which CAN be fixed (cruise, and some extra probs on my behalf)
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you got that right!

Thanks

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Old Aug 17, 2002 | 05:53 AM
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I going to the same place he went to and said $2300 with parts and labor but with an auto ECU. I going to pay more than most of the people that has done it, but only because I don't know anyone out here in SoCal to do for me.
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Originally posted by choclatemax
I going to the same place he went to and said $2300 with parts and labor but with an auto ECU. I going to pay more than most of the people that has done it, but only because I don't know anyone out here in SoCal to do me.
i still think 2k for what your getting isent that bad, yeah i pay a little over a grand, but i have to wait for such a loooong time to do mine, atleast u get yours right when you have the money..
Old Aug 17, 2002 | 07:19 AM
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The cruise control is a strange thing. I hooked it up on mine and it works. I did it the same way on meccanobles car, but it doesnt work. My car starts by pressing clutch in, his starts without. It seems as if the switch is being bypassed on the clutch, but I double checked it, and . Anyway I would have probably figured it out, but he had to have his car back asap, so I didn't get to figure any bugs out. Conversion is not for the faint of heart, its alot of work.
I know for 100% if you don't start w/ the pedal your cruise can't work.. one of the saftys on the cruise is that the pnp switch has no current flowing through it..
Old Aug 17, 2002 | 10:29 AM
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I know for 100% if you don't start w/ the pedal your cruise can't work.. one of the saftys on the cruise is that the pnp switch has no current flowing through it..

That may not be the case all the time. In my case (96gl) you're wrong. Mine works perfect 100%. And I start with the pedal. Weird isn't it? Could there be electrical wiring differences between the years?
So the only problems with my conversion are: stil have to wire reverse lights, change the ecu. Once I do those 2 things, you wont know my car was not originally a 5spd.
Old Aug 17, 2002 | 01:46 PM
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That may not be the case all the time. In my case (96gl) you're wrong. Mine works perfect 100%. And I start with the pedal. Weird isn't it? Could there be electrical wiring differences between the years?
So the only problems with my conversion are: stil have to wire reverse lights, change the ecu. Once I do those 2 things, you wont know my car was not originally a 5spd.
That is what im saying.. since you start w/ the pedal.. You are obviously wired the nuetral switch to the pedal..
Old Aug 17, 2002 | 02:11 PM
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I going to pay more than most of the people that has done it, but only because I don't know anyone out here in SoCal to do me.
Old Aug 17, 2002 | 03:29 PM
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pardon the stupid question but, how many hours or days did the job take?
I got a hookup that I couldnt pass up, So I wont mention the price. I had my swap done at finnishline in Gardena CA. Everything is working fine so far.
Old Aug 17, 2002 | 03:33 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Sorgasm
Call finnishline Auto craft in Gardena. Ask for John. He did my car and its all good. Shoot me an email if you want more info.
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That is what im saying.. since you start w/ the pedal.. You are obviously wired the nuetral switch to the pedal..

My bad, I red your statement wrong before. But its weird. I wired mecca's car the exact same way as mine, but his starts without pressing the cluthc, and cruise doesnt work. Could the wiring be reversed or something since he is a 95? I mean its possible I screwed up the wiring....
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My bad, I red your statement wrong before. But its weird. I wired mecca's car the exact same way as mine, but his starts without pressing the cluthc, and cruise doesnt work. Could the wiring be reversed or something since he is a 95? I mean its possible I screwed up the wiring....
it could be. Also, there is this harness looking gadget that fell off of my clutch pedal and i don't think it was even hooked to anything to begin with. The front of it has a brown face which looks like a harness can be plugged in and the opposite side has a button and the middle is black piece and screw...so far everyone i talked to said this piece is what lets car know clutch needs to be pushed down to start car...this could also be the reason the cruise isn't working...if anyone can show me pics of how to put this back on or explain in great detail, i'll try it myself....
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My bad, I red your statement wrong before. But its weird. I wired mecca's car the exact same way as mine, but his starts without pressing the cluthc, and cruise doesnt work. Could the wiring be reversed or something since he is a 95? I mean its possible I screwed up the wiring....
well u know that little switch u wired up.. well there are 2 types of them down there... One that depressed makes current go through and one that not depressed does it.. I wonder if his car will start w/ the clutch pushed all the way in...
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well u know that little switch u wired up.. well there are 2 types of them down there... One that depressed makes current go through and one that not depressed does it.. I wonder if his car will start w/ the clutch pushed all the way in...
it does lol, and just so i don't forget how to start my car when its 100% functional, i always start my car pushing the clutch down even though i don't have to....
Old Aug 18, 2002 | 08:41 AM
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well u know that little switch u wired up.. well there are 2 types of them down there... One that depressed makes current go through and one that not depressed does it.. I wonder if his car will start w/ the clutch pushed all the way in...
The top switch is not wired. I did it the same as mine. I removed the top swich in fact on mine. Anyway for the bottom of the switch i tested it as in the instructions so the car would start. I tested it by touching the two wired on the end of the terminal the went into the tranny. I'm thinking perhaps that switch is faulty and allows current to go through 100% the time which would make the car think its always in neutral.....hmmm...
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I haven't had a chance to wire mine up properly yet. It'll start with the clutch out, and no worky on the cruise control. I'm gonna fix it tommorrow though, my next day off...
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