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Old Sep 23, 2002 | 11:51 PM
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Possible Skyline tailights for 4th gen.. input needed!!

Hi guys!!

I was looking at some R33 pics and I was noticing how similar the rear end is and was wondering what you guys would think if I made a taillight kit that would look 90% like the OEM R33 tails?

Another thing that I need some help on where can I get the red plastic reflective lens? This would be the hardest part and if this is solved then I can go forward on this new project

Any positive input is welcome!

Regards!
Old Sep 23, 2002 | 11:59 PM
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Re: Possible Skyline tailights for 4th gen.. input needed!!

Originally posted by ionicmax
Hi guys!!

I was looking at some R33 pics and I was noticing how similar the rear end is and was wondering what you guys would think if I made a taillight kit that would look 90% like the OEM R33 tails?

Another thing that I need some help on where can I get the red plastic reflective lens? This would be the hardest part and if this is solved then I can go forward on this new project

Any positive input is welcome!

Regards!
if i saw some pics, i might be interested. i think they would look phat! keep us updated
Old Sep 24, 2002 | 12:07 AM
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I made a thread about this not too long ago and most ppl said to stick with red/clears
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I made a thread about this not too long ago and most ppl said to stick with red/clears
on a lighter color car, stick to red/clears. on a darker color car, it would look bad-a$$
Old Sep 24, 2002 | 12:27 AM
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Thats gonna cost a lot of money...how about dumping a supercharger in your car instead...
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Thats gonna cost a lot of money...how about dumping a supercharger in your car instead...
i wouldn't want a v2. if i did get a s/c, it would be a v1, used, or a diff supercharger, but i think stillen is the only one that makes one for the max
Old Sep 24, 2002 | 12:49 AM
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Originally posted by JsL
Thats gonna cost a lot of money...how about dumping a supercharger in your car instead...

The whole idea of Ionic Dynamics is not to be expesive! I don't have any idea on the price but it's not going to cost two g's
Old Sep 24, 2002 | 01:03 AM
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The whole idea of Ionic Dynamics is not to be expesive! I don't have any idea on the price but it's not going to cost two g's
Maybe if you were to make a fiberglass cover to fit over the top portion of the headlights with the circles cut out in them, that way all you would have to do is paint it body color and stick them over the upper portion of the taillights. That would probably cost like $80 to make right?
Old Sep 24, 2002 | 04:06 AM
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Re: Possible Skyline tailights for 4th gen.. input needed!!

Originally posted by ionicmax
Hi guys!!

I was looking at some R33 pics and I was noticing how similar the rear end is and was wondering what you guys would think if I made a taillight kit that would look 90% like the OEM R33 tails?

Another thing that I need some help on where can I get the red plastic reflective lens? This would be the hardest part and if this is solved then I can go forward on this new project

Any positive input is welcome!

Regards!
well its kinda a problem that the R33 tails are one peice and Maxima tails are 2
Old Sep 24, 2002 | 04:25 AM
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Hey, If you could make them work, I would be intrested. I have a dark colored maxima
Old Sep 24, 2002 | 05:49 AM
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Also intrested. Would they fit ALL 4th gen maxs?
Old Sep 24, 2002 | 08:32 AM
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I have a variation of this idea...

Originally posted by Nismo
Maybe if you were to make a fiberglass cover to fit over the top portion of the headlights with the circles cut out in them, that way all you would have to do is paint it body color and stick them over the upper portion of the taillights. That would probably cost like $80 to make right?
http://www.motorex.net/m_merchandise.html

Here's a picture of the acutal Skyline tails, from an R33. It might be possible to create a new two-piece cover for the lights that would fit on the Max. The biggest problem might be that the R33 lights are one piece, so you'd have to find a way to split them up. Oh, and the lights probably cost quite a bit.
Old Sep 24, 2002 | 08:48 AM
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Re: I have a variation of this idea...

Originally posted by Black VQ


http://www.motorex.net/m_merchandise.html

Here's a picture of the acutal Skyline tails, from an R33. It might be possible to create a new two-piece cover for the lights that would fit on the Max. The biggest problem might be that the R33 lights are one piece, so you'd have to find a way to split them up. Oh, and the lights probably cost quite a bit.
OK I'm thinking in two possibilities.

#1.- Making a whole housing with everything included, all that would need to be done is remove your existing taillights, install the new ones and have them painted. I think that this would be the best option since it would allow me to respect the overall idea and design of the R33 taillights.

#2.- Making a cover (thanks Nismo) that would go over the existing taillights, I really don't know how good this would look, but it's worth a try.

I need some help on WHERE TO FIND SOME PLASTIC REFLECTIVE LENSES? (a.k.a. brake lights). This is the hardest part of the project, it doesn't have to be Skyline lenses, I can probably use any kind of lens, I hope some one can point me in the right direction!

I'm really starting to like the Idea of having some skyline tails on my max

Regards!

Jose.
Old Sep 24, 2002 | 09:01 AM
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i had this idea too and ive been looking for lights, and it isnt easy. the best way to go is to take some from a wrecked max, and work from there, all you would need is a new cover, run clear bars across the bottom and sunken in round red tails. im gonna do it this winter hopefully.
Old Sep 24, 2002 | 10:04 AM
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i'm game

I am very interested in this idea. There aren't very many taillight options for maximas, and the skyline lights look really good.
Old Sep 24, 2002 | 10:17 AM
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Re: Re: I have a variation of this idea...

Originally posted by ionicmax


OK I'm thinking in two possibilities.

#1.- Making a whole housing with everything included, all that would need to be done is remove your existing taillights, install the new ones and have them painted. I think that this would be the best option since it would allow me to respect the overall idea and design of the R33 taillights.

#2.- Making a cover (thanks Nismo) that would go over the existing taillights, I really don't know how good this would look, but it's worth a try.

I need some help on WHERE TO FIND SOME PLASTIC REFLECTIVE LENSES? (a.k.a. brake lights). This is the hardest part of the project, it doesn't have to be Skyline lenses, I can probably use any kind of lens, I hope some one can point me in the right direction!

I'm really starting to like the Idea of having some skyline tails on my max

Regards!

Jose.

I am working on a similar project on making tails although it is not skyline ones. My problem too is the reflective lens. All car companies use molds and what not so that does not leave us with many options unless u want to spend about $20-30,000.(Yes i did some homework) I have found some reflective lens stuff but it is not see through so that would not help. I am not giving up as of yet, but it doesnt look like there is much we can do. I do have one last option after that.........next project
Old Sep 24, 2002 | 10:30 AM
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Holly smokes Jose! You sure are coming up with alot of stuff lately

The skyline tails idea does sound pretty great...I can see it now...

but you would need to find a source for the light housing itself...the paintable plastic (or fiberglass) might be easy to make, but the housing from where the light shines out of will be difficult.


I whipped something up before I finished reading this thread but when I was doing it I forgot you were talking about R33 tails...I made a little drawing of R34 tails on a max, it is pretty proportional to real life or so I think. The R34 idea (one light bigger than other) might be better because of the slant on the tails and how they are different sizes....I dont know you decide you're the man here



Good luck though, and you know ill be the first person in line to get these suckers (R33/R34) when you make them, right????
Old Sep 24, 2002 | 10:50 AM
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Mozy:

OMG!! that pic looks awesome thank you for doing that, it will help my designer out so she can understand the whole concept.

I'm 100% convinced on this project, I'd love to have some of these on my max, it's all going to come down to the reflective lens, but I'm sure that I'll come up with some thing.

I was thinking about R33 because of the overall shape of the car, but the R34 might be easier to make and more cost effective.

Thanks!
Old Sep 24, 2002 | 11:44 AM
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looks like altezza's to me
Old Sep 24, 2002 | 12:15 PM
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i'm horny.
i want some.
Old Sep 24, 2002 | 12:40 PM
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I have a set of Cefiro (A33) Rear Tailights... all 4 pieces. They are identical to the I35 Rear Tailights. Email me if you want to buy them to experiment with it. I am willing to let go cheap to help you.

It's got reflective lenses that lights can shine through and you can see. I think it would be easier to pop one open and cut from there.
Refer to the Infiniti I35 tailights photo for your reference.

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Old Sep 24, 2002 | 02:09 PM
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Originally posted by Jamsan
looks like altezza's to me
Sure does....what did you expect, a final production photoshoot? I mean come one, here is a man trying to do something for everyone who wants their maxima to look good, and you go saying that it looks like altezzas? Sure if you paint the altezzas....but then you will still know its an altezza if you come close and look at it..these will be different and if I understood Jose correctly, they will have a shell wich you can pop out to paint body color and not have to worry about making parfect circles for the lights. Please, if you have nothing usefull to say, don't say it. And just to make sure, look at R33 tail lights, they look nothing like altezzas, ok? He's trying to go like R33, not like altezzas.

Originally posted by LeonBlackMax
i'm horny.
i want some.
thats nice, do you have any USEFULL input? something that cannot be taken for two different meanings?
Old Sep 24, 2002 | 02:49 PM
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I once again quickly tried to do R33 tails...im like in between classes right now, so im doing this in like 5 minutes...

the picture on the top right is what it looks like on r33/34 style tail lights, they stick out. not flat like altezzas.

http://mozy.cx/images/r33tails.jpg


freaking 50k limit...click on the link..

update: err, forgot r33 turn signals...screw it. you get the idea.
Old Sep 24, 2002 | 04:16 PM
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I love this idea jose. I was thinking of getting the body work done to put some skyline tails anyway. I will help you out in anyway I can. I think this is a great idea. I will ponder this for a while and see what I can come up with.

good sketchs mozy!
Old Sep 24, 2002 | 04:55 PM
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maybe i could shed some light on this project...

for the last two months, i've been working on making a direct replacement set of tail lights for the maxima. i bought a second set of tails and went to work. this is as far as i am...

i removed the lense and gutted out the entire inside with a dremel. not as easy as i previously had thought.

next, i had a buddy custom mold sheetmetal to exactly replicate the outside lense. this was the longest part since he is really busy.

after this, i had him cut a round hole in each of the housings (four pieces all together) that were meant to fit tail lights off of a boat trailer (courtesy of Shucks Auto).

where i am at now is i am having him weld "rings" to the underside of the holes for support so that i can mount the lights to.

i know its hard to visualize but i don't have a digital camera to show.

right now, i'm in the process of figuring out the wiring and how the hell i'm going to put in reverse lights. i'm more worried about water leakage and electrocuting my self.

i'm really worried that the it wont match my car when i'm done. or that the body lines will be off. i didn't want to do body work to my car, so i bought these lights in hope i can just swap them in.

David

NOTE: obviously this is the short and sweet version of what i did. in reality, it took way too much timing and way too much beer to finally figure out a way to do it.
Old Sep 24, 2002 | 05:14 PM
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Thanks guys for all your input!!

Mozy: I love your sketches. Thanks for all your help!

Hmm after thinking about it I think R34 taillights will look a lot better and will be easier to produce. I talked on the phone with a friend that is in China right now, and he is trying to find a place that could make these for me cheap

I'm not worried at all about the housing, that can all be done at my shop and will fit perfectly and won't leak. I'm more worried about getting the reflective lens, these things are hard to make and I don't think that it's going to be easy, but when I get my mind set on some thing there's no stopping me!

Romeo: I hope your project comes out nicely, please post some pics up so we can see it.

SYCEFIRO: Please email me a pic of what they look like and how much the would normally cost.

LeonBlackMax: I know skyline tails have that effect on people

Jamsan: This will look like a custom job and won't look like some painted alteezas, the whole idea is to make a R33/R34 taillight conversion kit, so this means that it will have the overall shape and design of those tails.

climaxima: then that means I have two guaranteed customers?

Keep those ideas coming in!!
Old Sep 24, 2002 | 05:21 PM
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http://www.ps2w.com/~henock/skyline2.jpg


its been done before, but its helluva expensive. email VolkRacingMaxima@aol.com and ask him how it was done. that's his car.
Old Sep 24, 2002 | 07:31 PM
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ok, heres my thoughts about it.

take the housing that you would find in a junkyard or something and work off of another housing. so then you could use some fluorescent plastic that people use for the red/clears. you can get a home depot or something cut the circles and use some red vinyl or spray tint to make it red. after you get the circles done, use a fiberglass mold that you make from the original housing and insert the red plastic that you previously made. after you get the outside of the light done, split the other junkyard back of the tail and caulk both parts.

im not too technically inclined, but i thought that this might be a viable way to keep costs down. good luck
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The idea of skyline tailights seems cool..but i was wondering if they are going to be dot approved since some cops are really picky about that stuff.
Old Sep 24, 2002 | 08:47 PM
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Slimer: Thanks for the pics, but that's going a bit over board compared to what I would like to make

Xmax: I'm taking all of thes ideas into consideration, thanks for your ideas!! If I can't make my own or buy them just the way I would like them to be then I'm going to have to do something very similar to what you are thinking

Thanks guys!!
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Slimer: Thanks for the pics, but that's going a bit over board compared to what I would like to make
dont you mean "henock"? i'm **** about credits heheh
Old Sep 24, 2002 | 11:59 PM
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Originally posted by henock


dont you mean "henock"? i'm **** about credits heheh
Yes!! Please let me clarify that, henock thanks for the pics

Slimer: Thanks for the ideas!

Xmax: that's a whole diferent ticket that I don't want to even think about.

Good night guys!!
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Yes!! Please let me clarify that, henock thanks for the pics

Slimer: Thanks for the ideas!

Xmax: that's a whole diferent ticket that I don't want to even think about.

Good night guys!!
Dude, you're putting together a lot of custom stuff for the maxima. I salute you for your courage. (can i get a set of tails at discounted price when they're done?)
Old Sep 25, 2002 | 07:58 AM
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Yeah jose, youre really helping this community out by working on and supplying us with quality products that arent too stressful on our budgets. i give you mad props
Old Sep 25, 2002 | 08:14 AM
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You bet I am a guaranteed customer. And if you need anything let me know. I think you are doing a great job with helping out the max community. thanks again.
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I was thinking more about the cost effectiveness of the kit and it would be better if you just made a fiberglass cover with the red plastic circles to fit over the oem. but remember, there needs to be a white part for the backup lights, so they will be DOT compiant.
Old Sep 25, 2002 | 09:42 AM
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I hear all

that's right, my ears are burning again. hahaha

skyline tail light conversion? 1 word, pain in the ***
Old Sep 25, 2002 | 09:48 AM
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i see it now...i take my comment back about the altezza's
Old Sep 25, 2002 | 12:57 PM
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Originally posted by henock
http://www.ps2w.com/~henock/skyline1.jpg
http://www.ps2w.com/~henock/skyline2.jpg


its been done before, but its helluva expensive. email VolkRacingMaxima@aol.com and ask him how it was done. that's his car.
Yes its been done before, Jose knows that.

if you read deeper into the thread, you migh have noticed Jose wants "direct replacement" taillights. what VolkRacingMaxima has is a CUSTOM MOLDED job. that is a lot of money, true. but you need to realize that most people cant afford custom molded anything and that is why Jose is trying to get direct replacement tail lights for us.
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Hope you can make them look better than the new carbon Gen2 altezzas... thse might've won over most of the red/white crowd including myself...



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