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Old Oct 10, 2002 | 12:30 AM
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My New Suspension

i cant say too much about it until it's finalized, but MAN. the car rides on rails!

prelim: non adjustable strut, but heavyduty thick piston-rod, shortened piston rod, linear spring, adjustable height & camber (via bolts) and one HELLUVA strut housing "beefy"-ness. NO PING/POP in turns.

images will be posted soon.

Track testing this saturday at Buttonwillow raceway.

can you say "Choo CHoo common ride the train, now ride it?"
Old Oct 10, 2002 | 03:36 AM
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Re: My New Suspension

Originally posted by Chebosto
i cant say too much about it until it's finalized, but MAN. the car rides on rails!

prelim: non adjustable strut, but heavyduty thick piston-rod, shortened piston rod, linear spring, adjustable height & camber (via bolts) and one HELLUVA strut housing "beefy"-ness. NO PING/POP in turns.

images will be posted soon.

Track testing this saturday at Buttonwillow raceway.

can you say "Choo CHoo common ride the train, now ride it?"

Quad City DJ's-Come On Ride tha train.....

you're always getting "new" stuff......











Old Oct 10, 2002 | 03:51 AM
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Old Oct 10, 2002 | 04:41 AM
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bout time you upgrade and quit messing around with "normal" stuff..



Old Oct 10, 2002 | 08:22 AM
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A little more details of what went down:


The shop here in So Cal was very good. Former workers for Energy Suspensions that broke away and started their own company do EVERYTHING in house. from strut body assembly and manufacturing, to sway bar creation (along with the bending).


all precision CNC work is done by a contractor, but everything else, tapping, welding, latheing, is all done in-house.


the suspension is pretty neat. its a unibody threaded housing with valve enclosures on the top and bottom. Foam/Oil filled inside for dampening, with multiple valve chambers.

what makes it unique is that the end fittings are all custom made, so that theoretically, you could take the strut housing and put new ends on it to fit a Prelude, then take off the ends and swap in 5th gen maxima connectors. its pretty universal.

all their springs are custom made for them, with the spring coeifficients meticulously calculated. They have progressive springs, but for their coilover setup it is LINEAR.

they put on the suspension, and corner weighted the car with me in it. i.e. put the car on 4 mini scales and measured the weight distribution. so i actually have a neutral (slight understeer) setup with my weight dialed into the driver side springs.

my car weighs 3022 w/o me in it and something of the weight distribution of

922 922

589 589


the top upper piece where the spring attaches to the top perch is all polyurethane. aka same stuff as engine mounts. SO no pillow ball mount. i.e. NO breakage. the urethane mounts also prevents the spring from squeeking while turning and also prevents the spring from rotating within the setup.

bump stops are significantly smaller than stock, with the overall height of the front coilover suspenion over 3 inches SHORTER than the stock set up out side of the car. same goes for the rear.

450 ft/lb x 10 front springs, and 350ft/lb 7inch springs in the rear.
Although these numbers are high, the ride is great, not as stiff as konis on full hard with sprints.

the car is slammed, with 1 finger gap in the fronts, and 2 fingers in the rear. when you lift the car up via jack stands, one push of the lever (large craftsman car lift) will already put the wheels off the ground.

the stainless steel housings look sweet, and adjustments for height is fairly easy via perch wrench and locking allen bolt.

wheel clearance issues:
you can forget about going with a 8.5 inch wide in the front. i have about 1.5 finger clearance from the inside rim to the coilover perch.
a 7.5 wide or going with a 225 tire would probably be better, but 8wide /235 tire is fine right now.

NO rubbing. camber is within spec with the camber bolts included. the camber can be adjusted to -3.0.


i took over 40 images which i will post tonite. IT's really cool. when its offically announced, i hope you guys look into it for alternative suspension options..



--Cheston.
Old Oct 10, 2002 | 08:37 AM
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hope to see pics of this suspension set up you have now on your car.
Old Oct 10, 2002 | 08:47 AM
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sounds awesome cheston..

btw- i have 4 camber bolts on my car, 2 on each side... talk about some camber issues.
Old Oct 10, 2002 | 09:38 AM
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Oooo neato. Sound like a nice setup, especially the shortened struts, that is what I need.


Yahh for chiggers....I mean cheston
Old Oct 10, 2002 | 09:50 AM
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Old Oct 10, 2002 | 10:37 AM
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come to buttonwillow this weekend, and i'll show you



I'm bringin a digicamcorder so everything will be recorded and sent back to the company if i need stiffer/softer settings
Old Oct 10, 2002 | 10:44 AM
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Originally posted by Chebosto



come to buttonwillow this weekend, and i'll show you



I'm bringin a digicamcorder so everything will be recorded and sent back to the company if i need stiffer/softer settings
So this product will be based on how bad you drive?

Sorry, can't make it to Buttonwillow because the SC is coming off and going on another car.
Old Oct 10, 2002 | 10:54 AM
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eh. if i drive bad its ok.


but hey...


at least...


I TAKE MY CAR TO THE TRACK!
Old Oct 10, 2002 | 11:47 AM
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ahh yes...Ive been looking to get the JICs as my cattmans shot....its nice to know there is another choice.
Old Oct 10, 2002 | 12:00 PM
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Originally posted by Chebosto
eh. if i drive bad its ok.


but hey...


at least...


I TAKE MY CAR TO THE TRACK!
Yes, you do.
Old Oct 10, 2002 | 12:06 PM
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I can't wait to hear the results I am looking to upgrade form myu tokicos and cut ST springs.
Old Oct 11, 2002 | 08:00 PM
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Re: My New Suspension

Originally posted by Chebosto
i cant say too much about it until it's finalized, but MAN. the car rides on rails!

prelim: non adjustable strut, but heavyduty thick piston-rod, shortened piston rod, linear spring, adjustable height & camber (via bolts) and one HELLUVA strut housing "beefy"-ness. NO PING/POP in turns.
Hey, how much did this setup cost? How did I get these?

RL
Old Oct 11, 2002 | 08:52 PM
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offical release will be sometime within the next week or so.

final prototyping will be completed tomorrow at the race track.

pricing is not set in stone yet. but probably more than your usual strut with normal spring set up.
Old Oct 11, 2002 | 08:55 PM
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Originally posted by Chebosto
offical release will be sometime within the next week or so.

final prototyping will be completed tomorrow at the race track.

pricing is not set in stone yet. but probably more than your usual strut with normal spring set up.
More expensive than, say, Motivational's shortened strut setup?

Also, Chebosto, you're my hero

RL
Old Oct 16, 2002 | 02:41 PM
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where's the pics Cheston? sounds like an awesome suspension. Will they sell just the struts? I might want to run those on H&R.
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