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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 10:40 PM
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How important is HLSD on the 6-spd Max?

? There are some '02s at the dealer w/o the LSD and I was wondering if I'm making a big mistake by purchasing one of these.
Old Nov 20, 2002 | 11:28 PM
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I Love mine. Everyday I fall deeper and deeper in love with my beautiful black machine. A new tranny and clutch to me just signify me having to drive better. Truly the BEST car I've ever owned.
Old Nov 21, 2002 | 12:10 AM
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worth it!
Old Nov 21, 2002 | 02:57 AM
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hey what do you have against 03's?
i have LSD on mine and im pretty sure its the exact same thing as 02's and yesi highly recommend getting it
Old Nov 21, 2002 | 04:11 AM
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I have an auto but I would suggest you spend the extra $400 and get HSLD unless you like peg leg city.
Old Nov 21, 2002 | 05:47 AM
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get the HSLD. worth every penny!
Old Nov 21, 2002 | 06:17 AM
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I don't have HLSD but I have never had any issues and I certainly don't regret not getting it. Besides you can use the $400 for mods that DO make a difference: RSB, FSTB, Intake, Y-pipe, etc..
Old Nov 21, 2002 | 07:34 AM
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Originally posted by Lumbee799
I don't have HLSD but I have never had any issues and I certainly don't regret not getting it. Besides you can use the $400 for mods that DO make a difference: RSB, FSTB, Intake, Y-pipe, etc..
Yeah, I had the same question, people who have HLSD on Max, do you feel it working? I mean when you take off hard, or in the rain?

I read about VLSD on new CL-S and they said it worked wonders. I never read anything at all about HLSD on the Max.
Old Nov 21, 2002 | 07:41 AM
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You can always put LSD in yourself in the aftermarket (correct me if im wrong)
Old Nov 21, 2002 | 09:52 AM
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Yeah, that's a great question --

how about in the snow (For those who have owned the hlsd's long enough) and in the rain (most everyone can comment on this)...?

and how is the torque steer and launching (hard launches) w/ the Max's w/o the HLSD?
Old Nov 21, 2002 | 09:54 AM
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Originally posted by PeterUbers
Yeah, that's a great question --

how about in the snow (For those who have owned the hlsd's long enough) and in the rain (most everyone can comment on this)...?

and how is the torque steer and launching (hard launches) w/ the Max's w/o the HLSD?
Why don't you just go to a dealer or two that have them with and without and try to see what difference they feel like?
Old Nov 21, 2002 | 10:30 AM
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There is no aftermarket LSD for the 2k2+ Maxima's. As far it being beneficial to you, let me tell you this:

- Unless you drive like a maniac or at the track it will not be beneficial and may not even be worth it.
- If you're having torque steer, check your tire pressure
- Problems driving in rain? Get rid of the Potenza's.
- Need more precise turn-in's? Get an FSTB
- Want to get rid or minimize the sway? Get an RSB
etc., etc...
Old Nov 21, 2002 | 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by Burton069
You can always put LSD in yourself in ....
Well, you can and it would be an enlightening driving experience but the tracers would be rough to handle at 100mph....
J/K

I have an Auto w/o the option of HLSD but yes I love my 2K2. Even with the Blows stereo. It's perfect fo what I want in a car right now (except maybe a SC..hehehe).
Old Nov 21, 2002 | 11:19 AM
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Originally posted by soundmike
There is no aftermarket LSD for the 2k2+ Maxima's. As far it being beneficial to you, let me tell you this:

- Unless you drive like a maniac or at the track it will not be beneficial and may not even be worth it.
- If you're having torque steer, check your tire pressure
- Problems driving in rain? Get rid of the Potenza's.
- Need more precise turn-in's? Get an FSTB
- Want to get rid or minimize the sway? Get an RSB
etc., etc...
Hah, that's an oversimplification from someone who doesn't have a HLSD. I have one on my car and I wouldn't buy a Maxima without it. It makes a huge difference. It's not slight or subtle, or only apparent at the extremes. You can get on the gas in a corner and you don't do a 1 wheeled burnout. With the HLSD the front will go where you point it (unless both wheels are spinning and you can't get any grip).

Personally I wouldn't touch the car without the HLSD, but as was suggested by someone else, drive one with and without and see what you think.

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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 11:24 AM
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Originally posted by Stereodude

Hah, that's an oversimplification from someone who doesn't have a HLSD. I have one on my car and I wouldn't buy a Maxima without it. It makes a huge difference. It's not slight or subtle, or only apparent at the extremes. You can get on the gas in a corner and you don't do a 1 wheeled burnout. With the HLSD the front will go where you point it (unless both wheels are spinning and you can't get any grip).
And as such, unless you drive like a true enthusiast one doesn't need it. How many times does one speed out of a corner in a busy downtown intersection?

Also, with HLSD the wheels will go where you point it but in a straight line acceleration and in normal conditions the effects are not apparent.
Old Nov 21, 2002 | 12:03 PM
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I am happy with the HLSD on my 6 speed. I think it is very much worth the cost. No experience in the snow...yet, but I like it in the rain and in the dry when hittin' it hard.
Old Nov 21, 2002 | 02:19 PM
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Originally posted by Bluesbrekr
I am happy with the HLSD on my 6 speed. I think it is very much worth the cost. No experience in the snow...yet, but I like it in the rain and in the dry when hittin' it hard.
I still don't get it, what do you feel when drive that HLSD is working? Does it correct the spinning of wheels, etc?

My car drives pretty good in rain, if I had better tires than Potenzas, it would be even better.

And I can't imagine that HLSD will help out that much with those crappy tires.

My friend crashed his 350Z that has LSD and VSC when driving in the rain. Rear just started sliding and here comes the curb. 350Z has crappy tires that similar
to RE-92.

So, if HLSD does help out that much on the Max in the rain, when I wish I had it.
Old Nov 21, 2002 | 02:33 PM
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I still don't get it, what do you feel when drive that HLSD is working? Does it correct the spinning of wheels, etc?

My car drives pretty good in rain, if I had better tires when Potenza, it would be even better.

And I can't imagine that HLSD will help out that much with those crappy tires.

My friend crashed his 350Z that has LSD and VSC when driving in the rain. Rear just started sliding and here comes the curb. 350Z has crappy tires that similar
to RE-92.

So, if HLSD does help out that much on the Max in the rain, when I wish I had it.
As far as I understand, HSLD is a modern and enhanced incarnation of the old rear wheel drive "posi" systems used in 60's V-8 muscle cars. It will try to balance power to both wheels and help to maintain traction and prevent dreaded "torque steer" under extreme circumstances.
Old Nov 21, 2002 | 02:33 PM
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I wish I had the HLSD everyday. Unfortuanately, it isn't that common, so I wasn't able to find one when I was buying.
Old Nov 21, 2002 | 03:01 PM
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If you plan on having some fun with your 6-spd, which I assume you will...go ahead and get the HSLD.

my 2 cents...
Old Nov 21, 2002 | 03:01 PM
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Originally posted by Dany


I still don't get it, what do you feel when drive that HLSD is working? Does it correct the spinning of wheels, etc?

My car drives pretty good in rain, if I had better tires when Potenza, it would be even better.

And I can't imagine that HLSD will help out that much with those crappy tires.

My friend crashed his 350Z that has LSD and VSC when driving in the rain. Rear just started sliding and here comes the curb. 350Z has crappy tires that similar
to RE-92.

So, if HLSD does help out that much on the Max in the rain, when I wish I had it.

No, HLSD doesn't stop the wheels from spinning...nuthin could do that....but at least they will spin together, providing better control. I agree 100% that the Potenza's are not good in the rain....no problem gettin 'em to spin with rapid acceleration.

A lot depends on how a person drives in less than ideal conditions. That's certainly worth more than any 'option'.
Old Nov 21, 2002 | 05:38 PM
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HLSD was not available yet when I got my 6 speed. It would be nice to have but I needed to get a car and I could not wait.
Old Nov 21, 2002 | 05:59 PM
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Um.. i don't think HLSD is available with the automatic..

HLSD on the 6speed is a definte must.. First of a VLSD is much quiteter in operations and less effective as it uses fluids to transfer power hence the name VISCOUS LIMITED SLIP DIFFERENTIAL..

The helical cut limited slip differential is mechancial in nature and is much better performance wise however it is louder and gives much more vibrations as a result of the use of gears over the fluid based version..

Any form of limited slip on a front wheel drive car MAKES A WORLD OF DIFFERENCE over a normal open differential.. Even if you don't race your car, when the weather gets a little slipeery the HLSD is much more effective than any form of traction control...

Trust me get it.. and besides for $400, you will never get a true limited slip that is offered by nissan.. Plus you won't have to void your warranty (<== which i don't believe nissan truely provides) by installing it later on..

GET IT NOW and you will never regret it..

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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 06:08 PM
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The problem is, as someone mentioned a few times... is that you CAN'T get HLSD w/o paying a boat-load extra for options you don't want if you're looking to get a stripped down 6-spd. I just want an '02/03 6-spd, stripped down, HLSD, that's it.. don't think that's too possible. Can I order a car like that and still negotiate its price?
Old Nov 21, 2002 | 06:12 PM
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Can I order a car like that and still negotiate its price?
Hmm, the HLSD is a single option and not part of any package. Don't let the dealership tell you otherwise. It'll be tough finding one however but it can be done.
Old Nov 21, 2002 | 07:19 PM
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All of these responses are kind of pointless unless they are being posted by people who have owned both. Now how many people have owned both a 2K2 with HLSD and a 2K2 without HLSD. I'm pretty sure there aren't too many. I mean, if you've never lived with or without something (I don't mean just driving it) how do you know what it's like otherwise?
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I must have 'lucked out'!! I got a pretty basic 2K2 WITH the HLSD. The only other options were sunroof, splash guards, floor mats and the famous/infamous sunroof deflector (which I immediatly removed!)
Old Nov 21, 2002 | 08:10 PM
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I have no HLSD and I have no complaints. 2.167 60' foot on stock tires shows's me that "peg leg city" works great at the track
Old Nov 21, 2002 | 09:43 PM
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Originally posted by emax95
I have no HLSD and I have no complaints. 2.167 60' foot on stock tires shows's me that "peg leg city" works great at the track
Emax... first of all, very impressive numbers!

Second, how is your cornering.. many people are mentioning that cornering aggressively isn't nearly as tight as w/ the HLSD... what is your opinion? Also, how is your Max in the snow/rain (if you have new rubber on yer rims, can you jog back to when you had the potenzas and comment on those?)

Thanks
Old Nov 21, 2002 | 09:45 PM
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Originally posted by pjonkheer
If you plan on having some fun with your 6-spd, which I assume you will...go ahead and get the HSLD.

my 2 cents...
sorry man, i totally blew past your post ...

yeah, i'd love to get it.. and i DO plan on having fun for sure... however, it's finding one that's gunna be a *****. I kinda regret not doing this when Nissan was giving $1K cash back... i could have negotiated down to invoice (hell, they'll do that over the phone) and then got another 'thou, and i'd be at $23,000 for a 2k3. life's a *****
Old Nov 21, 2002 | 09:57 PM
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Originally posted by soundmike


Hmm, the HLSD is a single option and not part of any package. Don't let the dealership tell you otherwise. It'll be tough finding one however but it can be done.

You would think so...

if you go to www.nissandriven.com ... design your own 6-spd STRIPPED down max se, they require you to add the sunroof if you add the HLSD.. what garbage is that??

Is there anyone out there that has HLSD and doesn't have a sunroof??
Old Nov 22, 2002 | 04:38 PM
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My .02

I test drove one w/o HLSD first. Then drove one w/ HLSD.

Hands down, I had to go with the HLSD also. Just made too much of a difference for me.



Originally posted by Stereodude

Hah, that's an oversimplification from someone who doesn't have a HLSD. I have one on my car and I wouldn't buy a Maxima without it. It makes a huge difference. It's not slight or subtle, or only apparent at the extremes. You can get on the gas in a corner and you don't do a 1 wheeled burnout. With the HLSD the front will go where you point it (unless both wheels are spinning and you can't get any grip).

Personally I wouldn't touch the car without the HLSD, but as was suggested by someone else, drive one with and without and see what you think.

Stereodude
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