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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 08:43 AM
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Maxima 2K2 v Ford SHO

Ok came up to a light and this Ford SHO pulls up next to me and smiles at me. The light turns green and he steps on it hard, so I too step on it but I am in sand and I start spinning my wheels. He pulls ahead and I am now reading his back plate.
Not sure how much hourse power those things pull? Does anyone know?
Old Dec 2, 2002 | 08:45 AM
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Re: Maxima 2K2 v Ford SHO

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Ok came up to a light and this Ford SHO pulls up next to me and smiles at me. The light turns green and he steps on it hard, so I too step on it but I am in sand and I start spinning my wheels. He pulls ahead and I am now reading his back plate.
Not sure how much hourse power those things pull? Does anyone know?

Stock, I think about 220 (depending on year). What year/body style was it? A recent 'bug-eyed' thing or the more 'stocky' older version?
Old Dec 2, 2002 | 08:49 AM
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It was an older one, I am sure. It did sound good. I am ****ed that I did not get a good start. My wife smile at me and said that she could not belive that the Ford beat me. Oh well I hope to see that Ford again!!
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Originally posted by Polar2K2
It was an older one, I am sure. It did sound good. I am ****ed that I did not get a good start. My wife smile at me and said that she could not belive that the Ford beat me. Oh well I hope to see that Ford again!!
Yeh, stock they are 220hp. I'm pretty sure you would have beaten it if you had gotten traction. Don't worry about it, it was just a slip up for you (and the Max).
Old Dec 2, 2002 | 09:24 AM
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assuming the SHO was a 5-speed with a good driver, if you are an auto it would be a close race.....if you are a 6-speed and can drive, you will beat him pretty good
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Instead of looking at the numbers(HP,TQ) you have to look at when, how fast, and the duration the two engines develop their power. And in a light to light(drag) race the torque numbers are most important. Try to find their hp/tq curves or graphs and compare them.
Old Dec 2, 2002 | 10:31 AM
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Originally posted by woreyah
Instead of looking at the numbers(HP,TQ) you have to look at when, how fast, and the duration the two engines develop their power. And in a light to light(drag) race the torque numbers are most important. Try to find their hp/tq curves or graphs and compare them.
Yes this would be the way to go!!
Well I was not sure about all of this, I normally don't race, but it was fun even though I got beat. Next time I will not be sitting in the sand!
Old Dec 2, 2002 | 10:42 AM
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Originally posted by Polar2K2


Yes this would be the way to go!!
Well I was not sure about all of this, I normally don't race, but it was fun even though I got beat. Next time I will not be sitting in the sand!
I had a '94 SHO Auto and I loved that car(when it ran properly, which was not often). Whenever I see one I miss my old one. The tuning options for those cars are REDICULOUS. SHOSHOP.com has a Stage III or IV kit for $4999 with the potential of 500HP!
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I had a '94 SHO Auto and I loved that car(when it ran properly, which was not often). Whenever I see one I miss my old one. The tuning options for those cars are REDICULOUS. SHOSHOP.com has a Stage III or IV kit for $4999 with the potential of 500HP!
i had an 89.. and i've been to that site b4, its sick
Old Dec 2, 2002 | 12:18 PM
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Re: Maxima 2K2 v Ford SHO

Originally posted by Polar2K2
Ok came up to a light and this Ford SHO pulls up next to me and smiles at me. The light turns green and he steps on it hard, so I too step on it but I am in sand and I start spinning my wheels. He pulls ahead and I am now reading his back plate.
Not sure how much hourse power those things pull? Does anyone know?
I saw couple of newer SHOs with V8 engine getting dynoed. Damn they were making so much noise I was sure they put down some serious power.

One of the owners told me that his SHO put down like 160hp , that is pretty weak. Where all the power going?
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I saw couple of newer SHOs with V8 engine getting dynoed. Damn they were making so much noise I was sure they put down some serious power.

One of the owners told me that his SHO put down like 160hp , that is pretty weak. Where all the power going?
the older V6 models were faster than the newer V8's
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Originally posted by woreyah
Instead of looking at the numbers(HP,TQ) you have to look at when, how fast, and the duration the two engines develop their power. And in a light to light(drag) race the torque numbers are most important. Try to find their hp/tq curves or graphs and compare them.




Exactly, I have a 92 SHO along with my 99 Max, the SHO is stronger from 4K rpm up to the 7K redline where as the max has more lower. I can't comment on the 2k2 max, but my 99 seems to have the most pull from 2500 rpm too 4500. Just my 2 cents.
Old Dec 2, 2002 | 12:39 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Maxima 2K2 v Ford SHO

Originally posted by ToYLeT902
the older V6 models were faster than the newer V8's
Like the Mustangs? Wow, I'm amazed that Ford is still in business. What's the new logo?...

"You think we had financial problems before??? Watch THIS!"

Not only do American cars suck, whenever they have a good one they don't make enough, punk down the horse power, or just kill it completely.

However, you gotta love how American cars have to supercharge a V6 just to get the power of a forign V6
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Here's a piece of trivia on the SHOs...who

actually built the engines for Ford?

First one who gets this gets an 'attaboy' for really knowing his/her sh_t
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Re: Here's a piece of trivia on the SHOs...who

Originally posted by Galo
actually built the engines for Ford?

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Yamaha...
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Re: Here's a piece of trivia on the SHOs...who

Originally posted by Galo
actually built the engines for Ford?

First one who gets this gets an 'attaboy' for really knowing his/her sh_t
I don't remember the exact company name, but I know it was built by someone in Japan specifically for the SHO. Does that count???
Old Dec 2, 2002 | 12:54 PM
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Didn't yamaha build most of the engine?.
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actually built the engines for Ford?

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If I knew there were companies such as Level10 and NRH Transmissions that actually rebuild trannys with stronger parts I would have kept the SHO.
You can get a '93-'95 SHO for about 3K, add about 7-10K to it and have a beast of a car. I'm tempted to...
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NISMO Gets the attaboy!! Well done, amigo

that's something only a true afficionado would know....it was indeed Yamaha.
we

Second similar trivia: who built the engines for the Corvette ZR1 -the four-cammer?
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Re: NISMO Gets the attaboy!! Well done, amigo

Originally posted by Galo
that's something only a true afficionado would know....it was indeed Yamaha.
we

Second similar trivia: who built the engines for the Corvette ZR1 -the four-cammer?
Check out the bottom of page 1.

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Mercruiser
Old Dec 2, 2002 | 04:07 PM
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Re: Re: Here's a piece of trivia on the SHOs...who

Dodge made the first ford engines
Old Dec 2, 2002 | 05:43 PM
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The 3.5L V8 in the 2nd gen SHO was kinda sad...

I would have liked to see Ford spend a little more time tuning it. I bet it could have been really good. After all, it's the same basic engine formula as the Ferrari F355. They both have an aluminum 3.5L 40v DOHC V8. The SHO really should have been making more than 235hp.
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Re: NISMO Gets the attaboy!! Well done, amigo

Originally posted by Galo
that's something only a true afficionado would know....it was indeed Yamaha.
we

Second similar trivia: who built the engines for the Corvette ZR1 -the four-cammer?


Your next trivia question should be:

Which car was Yamaha engine originally built for?

or

Name three other Ford vehicles besides the taurus sedan in which the engine showed up and were in car magazines (hint Jay leno has one). None however went into production.



Jay Leno in a popular mechanics magazine a while back said the SHO 5-speed would be a collectible down the road. Just food for thought.
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Re: Re: NISMO Gets the attaboy!! Well done, amigo

i raced a 96 sho about 2 months ago, and i posted it on the org, the race was so close it was hard to tell, but when we came back everyone said the max one by a bumper. btw 2k 5sp intake.
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Re: Re: NISMO Gets the attaboy!! Well done, amigo

i raced a 96 sho about 2 months ago, and i posted it on the org, the race was so close it was hard to tell, but when we came back everyone said the max one by a bumper. btw 2k 5sp intake.
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I've seen 1 supercharged 3rd gen SHO. The guy didn't have any numbers though. Check it out: http://www.v8sho.com/SHO/Gen3BlowerPics.htm
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jjs...sorry, missed your post...you get two

attaboys because indeed, Mercury Marine built the ZR1 engines.

Now, I hereby admit ur a better man than I am because I have NO clue on which other cars used that engine and I'm not a fan of Jay Leno so that does'nt help me much!

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I know one of them was the "Shogun". It was a Ford Fiesta with an SHO engine/transaxle located in the rear hatch. Was supposed to run 160++mph and high 12's in the 1/4.
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Re: jjs...sorry, missed your post...you get two

Originally posted by Galo
attaboys because indeed, Mercury Marine built the ZR1 engines.

Now, I hereby admit ur a better man than I am because I have NO clue on which other cars used that engine and I'm not a fan of Jay Leno so that does'nt help me much!



I must admit, I can't think of any other cars that was used on...

Hmmm...
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Re: Here's a piece of trivia on the SHOs...who

Originally posted by Galo
actually built the engines for Ford?

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It was YU GO right?
Old Dec 3, 2002 | 01:28 PM
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Re: Re: NISMO Gets the attaboy!! Well done, amigo

One was the SHOstar. A Ford Windstar minivan with the SHO's motor/tranny. Now, that would be quite the grocery getter.
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Your next trivia question should be:

Which car was Yamaha engine originally built for?

or

Name three other Ford vehicles besides the taurus sedan in which the engine showed up and were in car magazines (hint Jay leno has one). None however went into production.



Jay Leno in a popular mechanics magazine a while back said the SHO 5-speed would be a collectible down the road. Just food for thought.
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2K2_6spd ---- SHOGUN

http://www.shotimes.com/images/SHOgun/Leno2.jpg
http://www.shotimes.com/images/SHOgun/Leno1.jpg
(Funny Got NOS Picture, If we still had sigs)

2k2Merlot ---- SHOSTAR

http://www.shotimes.com/pics/shostar.JPG


Another two are a SHO Taraus Wagon and a Ford Ranger.




From these questions you can tell I was and still am a SHO fan. However, Ford screwed up so now I drive a Nissan.
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Yeah, I remember when the SHOstar first appeared.

Funny thing is the current 3.8L Windstar is packing about the same power.
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Yeah, I remember when the SHOstar first appeared.

Funny thing is the current 3.8L Windstar is packing about the same power.
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I don't understand why SHO is so big. I ran a couple at the track. They were slow, except when one was spraying, then he was mid 14's, which is still slow if you ask me. Not sure what years, not a Ford fan.

Also, someone said "3k for the car, add 7-10k and those things are fast!" For that much money, you could make anything fast. You could turbo charge and nitrous a Honda Insight for less than that and make it fly. Or a school bus for that matter.
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Originally posted by Kojiro_FtT
I don't understand why SHO is so big. I ran a couple at the track. They were slow, except when one was spraying, then he was mid 14's, which is still slow if you ask me. Not sure what years, not a Ford fan.

Remember, the 220 hp SHO's were around YEARS before even the Max broke 190 hp. They have a very loyal following as well. It is the later ones with the lackluster V8's and auto's that spelled the demise of what the SHO's had once been.
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Remember, the 220 hp SHO's were around YEARS before even the Max broke 190 hp. They have a very loyal following as well. It is the later ones with the lackluster V8's and auto's that spelled the demise of what the SHO's had once been.
Ah, that explains it a little. I always thought the Mustang went the same way. Those old 5.0's were fast (though ugly). The new ones fall a little short, IMO.
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hey, jjs,

ahmen to that.... although there are alot of faults in the storys of some of you guys.the V6 SHO's put down 187 hp stock to the ground.... had 220 hp, the V8's put closer to 200 hp to the ground, and a side note the later V8 SHO's engine sizes are smaller than the 3.5 V6 MAX.
well above the 160 hp claimed... yeah i saw a 400 hp SHO. but after 350 you needed a blower to get the rest of the usable power outa there, and they still havent found the engines limit... and that power is to the WHEEL. not fly. not bad for a front wheel drive car. and they didnt claim to be the first 4 door sports car like Nissan did. even though SHO's came out three years before Max's did....
good conversation JJ...

later
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Originally posted by Kojiro_FtT
I don't understand why SHO is so big. I ran a couple at the track. They were slow, except when one was spraying, then he was mid 14's, which is still slow if you ask me. Not sure what years, not a Ford fan.

Also, someone said "3k for the car, add 7-10k and those things are fast!" For that much money, you could make anything fast. You could turbo charge and nitrous a Honda Insight for less than that and make it fly. Or a school bus for that matter.
WHAT! 7-10K is what you're going to pay for the turbo kit and every thing else to support it. Yeah, the turbo kit is only 5k but plan on spending another 2k at least on exhaust, electronics, clutches/stronger tranny, etc.
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Did you guys know that the SHOs were capable of up to 9000 RPM? They put out 220 HP, and although it was a yamaha engine, they had a lot of problems with the valve train......and the transmission. They used the same transmission on the 3.2 that they used on the 3.0L Vulcan on a normal taurus and even the vulcan was too much for that tranny. They do make some music though. I used to be a follower of them until I saw Maxima's. I would think the VQ would have just as much potential (up to 400 or more hp) as the 3.2 Yamaha without any problems. The 3.4 V8 that they equipped 3rd gen sho's with were uh crap. They only developed 235 hp but their best 0-60 times were only in the mid 7's and many of those engines had problems with the cams too which ended up destroying the engine because they were interference engines along with the yamahas.

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