I'm wondering who would be interested in these kits. I'm hoping there is enough interest that Freddie (97GLES) will start stocking them. Or maybe do a group deal. The 4300/4500k range would be a very white light. Maybe even then low 5000k range. They would be whiter than stock headlights but a lot more power. You wouldn't have the blue/purple color (which is no good in the rain!!!). Basicly this for the people who just want more light and not willing to use 100 watt halogen bulbs. I'm sure it will still look pretty cool too. So if you're interested, reply and comment on it.

 

for those that are looking for a non-color hid kit please reply with any ?'s that you may have. as you all know i'm always open to new product.

i'm waiting to see this kit in person, as soon as i see the kit & the color i will tell you what i think of it.

most important to me is what you guys think about this range (4000k- 4500k).

as for now hanabi will not have this range kit. we only carry kits with color and you know i back-up what i sell. so i need to hear what you guys think about this range or what you guys need.

for those that want no color, please reply.

 

Philips makes kits that go down that low. There may be a few other OEM type companies that make it. Do you only deal with Hanabi? It doesn't look like anyone else is interested. Am I the only one that wants bright daylight looking light? *BUMP*

 

ZuMBLe
this is the problem, the ppl that talk about hids want pure light. the ppl that buy hids want some kind of color in it and at no time they want a hint of yellow in them. thats why the hanabi 8000k kit is #1 in new york.

this is the reason why hanabi doesn't want to bring 4000k-5000k kits, they just don't sell.

the 7000k hanabi is a very light baby blue in color and i have 2 kits in my house ready 2 go for about 3 weeks now. i even have a set on my car but ppl want 8000k or purple. in the last 3 weeks i sold about 8 kits in 8000k alone.

i can add the 6500k & 7000k kits together and i still sell more 8000k kits. it's crazy but thats what ppl want.

so don't feel bad or think it's you, it's just that the ppl want color.

and yes for now i only sell hanabi hids. i was trying to get the osram line but they want to much money for the real kit from germany.

you need a kit go for the 7000k i love it.

 

I don't think very many people read this forum, so you'll be lacking in replies. I would have bought my kit from Freddie, but I wanted a white kit. I've also seen many others talking about where to get white kits. I ended up getting a Phillips/Osram kit and love it.

Freddie, didn't you originally sell the Osram kit before the Hanabi kit?
-hype

 

Where did you get the kit and how much? I know there are Philips kits for about 450. I may just save up for that.

 

http://www.cd-covers.com/osram9004HID/

That's basically the kit I have, which is the Osram kit Freddie used to sell. My kit has Phillips ballasts instead though. I picked up my kit for $280 used from a friend, and I wouldn't buy any other type of kit. The kit has sockets that plug into the OEM harnesses, and the ballasts are very sturdy. Search around for Osram and you might find more posts.
-hype

 

yup, my writeup! heheh, yeah, they are really bright on a Maxima. Mine's still going strong, and people still flash me once in a while. I really do prefer the bluer 6000k's, but since Freddie said the Osrams cant take the 6k bulbs, I'm just stuck with my Osrams.

 

Why would you buy a 4300-4500 kit when you can get bulbs that can give that out put?

 

Because you get 3x the light of a 45 watt halogen bulb and 90% of the light is useable! With a bluer kit, you get 3x the light output with say, 50% or less useable light. Question, why the hell would you want to see blue light when you can see white light? Is the sun blue? Blue light is related to ultra violet light. Can you see ultra violet light? No... Same with infra red. That's light from the red light spectrum. You don't see it, but it's there. You get hit with ultra violet light, you can't see it with your human eye. If you were in a dark dark cave, would you want a blue flashlight? Or would you want a flashlight that casted white light? It could be a long trip off a cliff with blue. I have a little LED flashlight that uses a blue LED. Sure, it's bright, but after a while your eyes start buggin. Color perception is distorted. White things turn blue. It's not natural. Let me ask you this, why don't OEM manufacturers come with 9000k kits? They come with 4300-4500 kits! Everybody says, "I want blue/purple like Audi/BMW HIDs!" You can't have it! As Freddie mentioned before, the blue in those kits are caused by the quartz projector housings. NOT blue light. Sit inside a BMW/Audi, the light is perfectly WHITE! Why would I want a 4300-4500 kit when I can get bulbs that have the same temp? Because HID is 3x brighter and the 4300-4500k range is optimal for the human eye! Do you see rally cars with blue HIDs at night!? They'd end up in a ditch for sure!!! Blue light glares and discomforts other drivers also!!!

 

Very intresrted, keep us up to date.

 

 

if i were to go with hid's i would want a pure white as well... but unless you can flash your brights to show the occifer you don't deserve a ticket, I think I'll still spectate

 

Where did you even get the idea that I said anything about a blue light. Who cares about blue light? I don't have an HID kit, I have some krypron bulbs and guess what? When I look out my windshield guess what color I see? that's right, I see WHITE!!!! Not blue/purple. But guess what the people in on coming traffic see? Blue/purple light. The fact that your flaming for no reason is quite funny. I really don't know where your blue light subject came from!
And then you said that the blue light discomforts other drivers. Then why would BMW/Audi put it in there car if it is a discomfort?
Your arguement makes no sense. You should've just said because the HID's are brighter. and 9000k kit? I am so confused.

 

"I have some krypron bulbs and guess what? When I look out my windshield guess what color I see? that's right, I see WHITE!!!! Not blue/purple."

Bull ****! You are seeing what you want to see. Think about it, you admit that your light source appears blue/purple. If that is the case, then your lights are obviously producing blue/purple light. How much I don't know, because I have never seen your bulbs. You can't have it both ways. If it appears blue/purple, you will have blue purple light, being emitted by your headlights. You just don't notice it because you have either been desensitized to it, or you are simply unconsciously fooling yourself in your zeal to have "krypton" bulbs.

"And then you said that the blue light discomforts other drivers. Then why would BMW/Audi put it in there car if it is a discomfort?"

Why? Because people want flashiness in cars that they pay big money for. I know TONNES of people that walk into dealerships asking for "those really blue/purple lights like those on BMW's and Audi's". I hear it all the time at luxury dealerships (which I visit often because of family cars). They have no idea why they are coloured, or that they even produce more light. They just want the exclusivity of it. And because they want it, and it's something the manufacturer can make a profit on, you better believe the manufacturer is going to make it available.

There are lots of stupid products out there that serve no other function than that people like them, or think they are cool. And people spend billions of dollars on them each year. Think about all those stupid coloured headlight bulbs that people spend millions on each year, that not only don't produce as much light, actually produce less. But they sell like hotcakes.

If you don't realize that there are lots of things out there that automotive manufacturers are willing to produce that are much less beneficial than other cheaper items out there (i.e. over 4700K HID's, big heavy rims, 99.99% of factory spoilers, the list goes on) other than that the market likes them, then you are beyond naive.

 

I do see a white light from my driver seat. The oncoming traffic sees a switch between the white, blue and purple. Just like the BMW lights the only difference is that they are brighter. I know what I see I'm not an idiot. Why would I come on the .org just to lie to people, that would be a big waste of time. My friend tells me about my headlights all the time.
I can understand the inquiring of people, everyone wants flashiness that's why people buy aftermarket bulbs, spoilers, etc to look flashy. HID's make improvement in night seeing but that usually isn't why people want them. If your concerned with seeing at night then get a 4300 HID kit. BUT MOST WANT IT FOR LOOKS!!! And I wasn't actually asking to know why BMW/Audi put the lights in their cars. some people are so ignorant.

 

"Why would I come on the .org just to lie to people, that would be a big waste of time."

I'm not saying that you are lying, I'm just saying what you said earlier (as in the colour you see through the perspective as a driver and what people outside see) was simply not possible. In fact, it still sounds unlikely. Again, I'm not saying you are lying, I'm just saying the physics are such that it is simply not possible, unless you are simply desensitized, or lying. Hey, maybe you're lucky and colour blind. Just kidding.

My appologies, when you said "Then why would BMW/Audi put it in there car if it is a discomfort?" I genuinely assumed you wanted to know. BTW, it is a known fact that the blue will cause discomfort.

 

I must say, you're an idiot. You commented about why anyone would get a 4300k kit if bulbs give the same output. This thread has EVERYTHING to do with color tone. Please, don't comment if you have no idea what you're talking about. I explained why someone would want a 4300k HID kit and not any other kit.

 

Oh my god! You have one of those rainbow looking bulbs in your car?? And you think it's good stuff? You really shouldnt be in this thread then. Your headlights are just like BMW but BRIGHTER!? OOOOOKAAAAY BUDDY!!! Lay off the sauce.

*** I'm going to put my flame thrower down now. For those who care. I have a friend that may be able to get MIT brand 4300k HID kits for a good price. Hopefully the deal goes through. If it works out, I'll see if he wants to sell to the org.

ZuM

 

I was saying that BMW's lights were brighter. It's a white/bluish purplish tone like the BMW. Sorry I'll try to dumb it down for you more next time.

 

Thanks, you do that. So, now that you've established that HIDs are brighter than your headlights. Lets move on. You answered your own question why someone would want a 4300k kit instead of regular (your)bulbs! Didn't even need me to explain it to you again!! Very good!! Where do these people come from? I work in IT and I deal with people like this all day!

 

I'd like a 4300k kit.

 

 

I'll keep you guys posted. Still working on this. I have a friend who is a Catz dealer. Catz doesn't make a 9004 kit though! =( What do the 5th gens use? H4?

ZuM

 

You read my mind--I was going to suggest the Catz kit. They have a sweet new H4 dual beam(5th gens)!

http://www.liteswap.com/groupbuys.html

 

flame war over lighting? Why don't u flame war over speed it's more interesting

 

Yep! My friend has a subaru that uses the H4 beams and he may start a group buy for them on iclub. I would probably offer them here if he does it. But that doesn't help me any. I need 9004. =P

 

Only 5 people for a group buy? That rocks!

Does that other kit have molded bulbs like the http://www.liteswap.com one? That is very important not only in terms of quality but headlight beam pattern over the glued bulbs in the market.

And I agree, why would anyone in their right mind buy a 9000K kit? 4300-4500K would give you the most output. The blue/purple you see on BMW/Audi is not because of the light output, but rather the reflection from the housings.

Think of it this way, blue LOOKS cool and is easier on the eyes etc because the light is absorbed more. But the point of lighting the road is to reflect light. You want the road to reflect. So lets say you have 9000K bulbs, the road absorbs most of the light instead of reflecting. (Did I say that right?)

 

Any updates on the 4300k kit?

 

bmw & audi get the blue & purple color from the quartz glass not the hid bulb or hid housing.

i'm still waiting to see the kit. i was told that the kit has 2 balast & 2 starters.

lets see what happens.

 

yes, the Catz kit has 2 ballasts and 2 igniters.

 

I did a little research and the color spectrum I saw showed the lower 5's being the optimum light. Is that wrong? If not can we get a kit in that range? By the way, I too would prefer a pure white or very little color kit as well.

 

Optimum color for road lighting is 4300-4500K and is pure white.

5500K is a tint of blue and would provide less performance.

 

Im in on this group deal as soon as it post zumble. Whats with the lighting war about? Hid's is not really a type of subject to flame about.

 

The Catz HIDs won't work for our 4th gens. The H4s for the 5th gens are still up in the air. Like I said, I have a friend with connections for the H4s but I'd rather get 9004s for us 4th gens.