We have finished construction of our V6 Pulleys. They are lighter and stronger then the competition. They weigh in at 20.4 ounces compared to Unorthodox which weighs in at 20.7 ounces. Our sealing ring is made of bronze instead of steel. Bronze is a much stronger and better sealing then steel.
Only color available is blue, its much darker then appears in this thread.
To purchase a pulley Email me at Nick@definitivemotorsports.com to place an order and exchange shipping information or ask any questions.

If 10 members purchase the I will sale them free of shipping charges.

Thanks
-Nick

 

That is cool and all but there is rvm racing that sells an UDP for $80 that is only slightly heavier than the UR UDP. That's still $60 less than yours. If you have dynos to prove good performance than you will probably gain more interest. I mean it sounds cool but I'd probably still go with RVM at this moment. Give dynos or 1/4 mile times with and without the UDP and show the comparison.
I'm interested but not convince yet.

 

Is there any way you can also make other pullies like a set ,or individual pullies.power steering ,air cond,alt ,because the stock steel are heavy.hondas have these.

 

Nick has been selling these pulleys on the Altima boards for a while now. His customers seem very happy with both his product and his customer service. The product appears to be very high quality at a very reasonable price. I have corresponded with him and he has always been prompt and informative with his responses.

Count me in on this Group Deal.

 

2nd the vote for other pulley types i.e. alternator, water pump, power steering, etc.

 

Interesting thread. hacim105 has raised the obvious question. But everyone else seems to be ignoring him. Don't worry, hacim105. I'm not afraid to ask the question again.

Why would anyone pay more than $80.00 for a UDP, particularly given the fact that adding one seems to result in a marginal power increase at best?

 

Why would anyone pay $180 or more for an Unorthodox Pulley, yet people do it all the time. Why do some people prefer any one brand over another. It's just individual preference. Look at all the different prices for an FSTB. Why doesn't everyone just get the cheapest one that works seemingly as well as the most expensive one. Everybody has different views on value, quality, performance, looks, and whatever other factors their may be.

Is that a good enough answer for you.

 

Thanks for the support 03BlkSETE, sorry it took all day to reply, I couldnt login to the site from work. I did not know RVM was selling their pullies for $80. If I would have known another company was doing it cheaper, I would have machined mine whole and not anodized them and hopefully saved enough money to keep it under $100. If you guys do decide to order mine, I will reassure you the quality is great and the pulley will provide more (well, I dont know how much exactly more HP a few ounces makes )power. If you do decide to go with the competition, no hard feelings .

Thanks For checkin out the group buy.

 

I also have interest in a complete pulley setup. I would buy it in a heart beat. A complete pulley setup would fit the Z, G and altima too..

 

I dont have a VQ engine, my altima is a 4 cylinder. So I cant exactly use my car to make them. If you guys get me the pulleys that you want made, in the size you need, I can copy them and produce them. Let me know
Thanks
-Nick

 

Sounds like Nick is up for the challenge. Who's got a trashed car or similar to pull from?

 

This is sounding good. I would also be interested in a set like this.

 

Thank you Y2kSE!
This is true in most cases however in this situation the fact is that all probably perform very very similar so anyone who who buys an UDP for a lot more money is really just hoping that buy spending the extra money that they will somehow get better performance but it isn't going to happen.
Nick has made an interesting proposal but he hasn't convinced me that's all, I don't doubt that he has made a high quality piece, however why spend more for the same power. That's why so many buy budget y-pipes now rather than stillen and cattman. Because they all have the same gains yet budget costs $200 less. When he has proof that there is performance gains than it will definitely be worth it. The 4th gen maxima only has one pulley so it would be quit hard to make an UDP that will perform really well to increase or free up noticable gains.
That's cool that your willing to work with us but I don't think that much performance will be gained.

 

"Our sealing ring is made of bronze instead of steel. Bronze is a much stronger and longer lasting material."

Since when is bronze stronger and ergo a longer lasting material than steel?

Bronze is WAY softer/weaker, and as such, wear due to friction will occur at a faster rate.

Although this component will not face serious amounts of friction/wear, therefore not critical that it is made of the softer and weaker bronze, it is an outright lie that bronze is "much stronger and longer lasting".

 

ive was able to install one of the 1st RVM underdrive pulley for the Max. Although it did fit and is cheaper then the Unorthordox racing pulley. the fit was not as "perfect" as the Unorthordox one. Both of them fits and works fine, but the Unorthordox one juss fit a tad bit better. have not tried these new ones yet but seems like a good product and id try it if i needed an underdrive pulley

 

Hey Sin, the longer lasting thing was a typo, I had that part changed on my Altimas.net thread awhile back. Thanks for pointing it out, I changed it on this thread now.

As for stronger, the bronze we used is Aluminum bronze, which is harder then the non-heat treated steel that UR used. We tested it and found that the Aluminum bronze is harder, while at the same time, it is a much better sealant.

 

Would these be the same size as the stock pullys and lighter, or lighter and smaller? Any ideas on the gains a complete set would provide? Isn't our water pump directly driven off the motor somehow?

 

Almost, 03BlkSETE. Unfortunately, you forgot the three most obvious reasons why people overpay for products: peer pressure, herd instinct and lemming mentality. After all, if it costs more, it MUST be worth more, right?

Enjoy the ride!

 

Alright y2kse, thanks for your input. I'll keep it in mind as I make my purchases. I just want to add a one thing. I noticed this pulley on Altima.net and was very impressed by the customer feedback and the customer service provided by Nick. I figure the more people that make products for us the better so I asked Nick if he could present his product at the org. He did, and now everyone could make up their own mind.

 

Turbo95Max, does the RVM udp even have the steel or bronze seal ? Or is it just the aluminum ?

 

hey,
i am just wondering if you made these for a 3rg gen VG engine? if you do i would like to order one b/c rvm racing doesnt make an udp for my car and unorthadox is way more exspensive. so if you do plz let me know and if you dont would you be able to take a stock one and make a lightened bronze one for me and other vg's ??

 

hey,
i am just wondering if you made these for a 3rg gen VG engine? if you do i would like to order one b/c rvm racing doesnt make an udp for my car and unorthadox is way more exspensive. so if you do plz let me know and if you dont would you be able to take a stock one and make a lightened bronze one for me and other vg's ??
-Dys

 

Well according to Unorthodox Racing, the pulley fits a 1989-2002 Nissan Maxima, a 1996-2002 Infiniti I30/I35 and a 2002 Nissan Altima. Leaves me a little confused, but if anyone with a VG or VE wants to buy one and it doesnt fit, I will give you a full refund.

-Nick

 

They should be the same size but alot lighter. P.S is anybody working on this because this is the only way your getting my federal reserve notes.

 

That works for me!

 

hmm if it's the same diameter.. Us boosted guys may chime in too... can someone confirm this?

 

so... wheres the list of people to show how many people are doin this GD? would you mind getting one started so i can see how much time i have b4 i have to get in and order them. thanks

 

yes I'm interested in a GD on a full pulley system

 

Hey guys, I can machine all the pulleys you need, just let me know what part # it is and I can get them from Nissan then dupicate them in light weight alumnum T-6061. The problem with this is that I would need pre-orders on parts. I would need to know exactly how many I am selling. You guys would have to pay a month in advanced and I would have them out, the whole set. If someone knows the sizes of the pulleys, give them to me and I can quote you guys how much it will cost to get a complete set. Also give me two or three colors you would like them, it would be ultimatley cheaper to keep one or two colors. I can work on it this weekend and depending on how many orders I get I can have them out within a month of when I recieve all the pre-orders.

Keep me updated as to what you guys decide

Thanks
Nick

 

I think if you do this you should offer a set or each indevidual pully seperate many people have crank pullies and dont want another one.If you sold these seperate i think they would sell good.make two power steering pullies one stock size the other a little bigger.

 

I would do that, I wasnt planning on having them buy the complete set, but I would still need pre-orders.

As for making 2 different size pulleys, I couldnt do that because I wouldnt know what belts to use and my cousin with a Maxima uses his everyday and cant have any down time on it.

 

Im in for it then for the other 3 or 4 pullies just give price range or just wait for more interest ill give money then.Once you get a ps pulley made maybe you can make a different one later?I guess you have to wait to gauge interest.P.S maybe you should start a new thread on this?

 

Krismax good idea, but dont the pulley sizes for power steering and all that other stuff change in size for each generation car?

 

Sorry for an ignorant question, but what would be the benefit of having lighter pullies for say power steering? Would the only help be in the weight difference and would there be a big difference?

 

Well, thats because its lessens inertia required to spin everything, but honestly, I am wondering that same thing, everyone seems to have intereset, so it must have some benefit!

 

I'm in also. Let us know how much interest you get on them and a ballpark figure on the whole set. I like an aluminium color myself.

 

Most likely it would just be aluminum and black, ill post this in the Group Deals forum. If I get about 20-30 interested people who are willing to pre-pay, then all you guys would have is about a 1-2 month wait while I get the orders to the day I ship them out. So I will keep you guys posted and you guys let me know if there is anything else.

Thanks Nick

 

Plain alum sounds good to me.

 

Any color is fine with me.

Here's a link for anybody like me who had a hard time figuring out which pulley was which.

http://www.courtesyparts.com/A33_belts.html

 

Just wondering did you start a new thread ?