I'm happy. I have a 97 5 speed with an intake. and BTW I was in the left lane.

 

Nice time ! So what kinda of a car was in the right lane (17.59)?

 

WOW!!


Great time and great launch!

 

It was a Lancer

 

stevetech...i like those dyno comparo's i notice a flaw in the cl typeS to max 5th gen though...the redline on the acura is 6900 and fuel cut at 7200...it looks like your dyno shows the acura fall off at 6500...i didnt take the time to look at the other dyno's and note weather there rpms range is correct ,but it still pseaks to what i also try to convey often,peak numbers mean much less than "AUC" what's known as area under the curve...

 

just saw this thread...great launch...that's where you'll make or break your time

 

Great run, especially with just an intake.
I was comparing your run against my best run, also with just an intake, and you were pulling on me throughout your run.
Great run man!

 

poor lancer

 

Nice kill, I like the reaction time, you did this with a 4th gen with only a Intake and a Y-Pipe, Nice

 

actually, he has no ypipe... just a cheapo intake i helped him put in a day before... everything else was stock. i still can't believe it... but its true.

 

Full interior?

 

WOW: i know i don't drive a Maxima, but even i know those are some kick a** times for the mods, somebody knows how to drive their car ....congrats

 

Hey KINGMAX,

I have a '95 GXE 5 spd with NO options (super-light) and just installed HKS intake yesterday. I will be taking it to the track within the next month or two. I have 83k miles, pretty low for a '95. Wondering if you shifted into 4th or not and also what RPM's do you recommend to shift at. I usually shift at 6.3k-6.5k RPM's. Is this right or should I shift earlier?

Thanks in advance for any comments!

Ryan

 

Shift at redline in 1st, 6300 in 2nd, and 6100 in 3rd. Try both ways too, try leaving it in 3rd for the whole run and then try shifting into 4th at the indicated shift point. I always shifted into 4th when I was stock and it worked well for me, but some people keep it in 3rd and it works well for them.

 

he's run his best times staying in 3rd... and so have i.

 

What technique did you use to launch your car KINGMAX

 

I wish I could go back to stock and try finishing in 3rd gear, I think I may have done even better than I did.

 

he drinks like 2 gallons of water and imagines there is a port-o-john at the end of the track. lol, seriously... i think he just launches at 1500-2000 and runs to red in every gear. but i think he just got lucky that day... we went a couple weeks later and i think his best was 14.8 (still very good). though, marcdown and i tried something out that day. we both reset our ecu's thinking the extra fuel might help out... and in fact for both of us on the very next run, were running .15+ faster... and this was consistant for my remaining runs and Mikes too. reason for trying this was b/c Will and i had installed that HAI the day prior to racing and reset his ecu. previous to this his best was a 15.1 or 15.2. i couldn't imagine that just a hai would change his time by... (calculating)... .5 seconds. i'm sure there are a few other factors involved though. should be interesting when he finally gets a ypipe and remaining exhaust. maybe he'll beat marcdown's 14.5 with intake and ypipe/bpipe??

 

Your car runs predetermined fuel and timing maps at WOT that NEVER change unless your have your ECU reprogrammed, resetting the ECU won't do anything at the drag strip. It was coincidence. Congrats on running better though.

 

hmm, i guess i'll have to believe you b/c i don't think i have much evidence to back my theory up... but i have noticed a sig. drop in mpg for a 100 miles or so after reseting my ecu. i always associated that with the car running richer. ? then, what is the point of everyone saying to reset your ecu after bolting something on. what else would your car learn besides tweaking its air/fuel ratio?

 

People put way too much faith in this. At partial throttle it could help improve efficiency but at WOT nothing changes. The fuel and spark maps are programmed by nissan, that's why there's only 3 or so ECU upgrades, they aren't easy to change, you have to reprogram them.

MPG drop I can't explain, resetting the ECU should make things MORE efficient if anything, not less.

 

They say an ECU studies and remembers how one drives...like shift points and stuff... maybe resetting it makes it forget what it learns, and makes it put all out

 

KINGMAX, how did you get a 2.2 60 foot time? ive tryed and tryed but yet to break 2.3's

 

actually that is the only time I have pulled a 2.2 60ft. I launced at around 1200 rpm. As soon as I feel the clutch catch I drop the hammer and it squeels a tad and then just takes off.

 

the reason he has such great times is the fact that he ALWAYS drives his car like that around town and all... most of us drive it hard every once and a while and when it counts at the track, we're not as well in tuned w/ our cars as he is... the best thing to do is drive your car hard... practice those starts... my best times, it feels like i am having alittle wheel hop but not to the point where the wheels are spinning... that resulted in 2.17 60' times... but i do have kyb agx shocks as well as eibach springs... but crappy as hell tires... so... just keep practicing and you will bring it down... just keep pushing your car till it's about to break traction and when u finally do... back it off just that little bit and you will find your best times...

mike

 

What does he mean , as soon as the clutch catch's..

Does he mean tires?

 

no I mean the clutch, maybe "engage" is a better word to use. I hold the clutch peddle right before it's engagement point and as soon as the light turns I lift it up, when I feel it engage I go full throttle.

 

I tried that technique when I was at the track a week ago. My car kept on f u c k in moving. I think it was because it was a sh!tty track that wasnt level.

 

yeah sometimes that happens... w/ a crappy track like that... there's a few ways u can get by that...

one technique i usually use if this is happening is to use the heal of your right foot to sit on the brake part way... just enough for it to grab alittle so you stop rolling... and still have the toe of your foot to add alittle gas at 1500-2500 rpm... from there when the light turn green, you can slip your heal off the brake and be there to add more gas and go...

the other way... would be holding up the e-brake... and do pretty much the same thing... i think it's alittle bit more movement since i want to have my hand on the shifter for my 1st to 2nd shift but just remember to keep the button depressed on the e-brake so you can disengage it quickly...

try that first one at the track... and remember... stage as deep as possible... you have about a 1 ft. window that you can roll in b/f you are concidered off the line... use that roll to your advantage

try the first technique... that's the one i'd suggest...

mike

 

You guys can talk until you are blue in the face about "how to launch". The fact is you can't tell someone how to launch their car effectively. It's like riding a bicycle, you can't describe it you just have to try it. Some people are natually good at launching, some people suck at it. If you suck you need to practice, asking someone "how do I launch my car" will not get you anywhere.

 

good point it just takes alot of practice, and staying at one or two tracks kinda helps so you get a good feel for how they hook up.

 

I disagree. You're prolly more experienced than me in this field but I think pointers can help and then you have to figure out what is the best launch for you personally. Some people are better at doing it different ways obviously but its nice to know what different people are doing so you can try everything.

 

yeah i actually did do that. found it very hard to do especially if i was the second person to the line. **** happens too quickly for me if the other guy is already ready. good tip about having a foot of room to roll forward.

my idea for the future....dont go to sh!tty a$$ tracks

 

People can point you in the right direction but just saying "launch from 2500rpm instead of 3000rpm and slip the clutch" won't magically make someone go from 2.5 60's to 2.1 60's.

People ask me all the time how I launch and I tell them over and over my technique and then a week later they come back and say "It didn't work for me, why?" Hell if I know, I don't think about launching I just do what feels good and it gets good times. I will say this though, don't be afraid of a little wheelhop, it feels very violent, but some of my best launches have come with the most worst wheelhop.

Other people launch other ways like VQdriver who launches from like 1400rpm. I tried that a few times and I sucked.

You can explain it all you want but the only thing that matters when the rubber meets the pavement is ability and practice, not words and suggestions.

Launching a FWD car on street tires is an art not a science. You either have ability or you practice or you will never get good at it. Launching other setups is different. Slicks are easy... find the best RPM to use and drop the clutch. Same for AWD (for the most part).

 

I gotcha.

 

What E.T. did KINGMAX get? Instead of the pic I get the dumb box with the X.

 

i totally agree
it is more of a "hands on" type of learning rather than booksmarts.
a physics major could research all the aspects of driving to get the best time, but not being able to apply the knowledge appropriately makes all the knowledge to go waste.

just like teaching someone to drive stick smoothly...you can instruct all you want...but without practice...its not gonna happen

do you guys launch better at the track than the street?
cause i can pretty good on the street...however i get crazy wheelspin at the track...
but i hear that tracks usually have more traction than normal streets do??

 

I think on the street its easyer for me, becuase i know how much im going to spin, and when to floor it...cuz i know about when my car is going to grab.

At the track its hard takes a couple runs to get use to becuase I cant launch the way i do on the street becuase the track is very stick and grabs well, so you have to launch at very high RPMS...im not saying its harder, even tho I feel it is..

 

14.69 @ 93mph. What the hell DID happen to my pics, the links to my sig aren't even working, guess I will have to check with the host

 

Ok it's fixed